[mercurycougar]

why is the 170 horsepower v6 sooo slow with the atx?? Is there an explanation?

 

[JScullin]

40% drivetrain loss from the time it goes from the engine through the tranny & out the wheels. You did test drive it before buying right? Or is this just now a surprise to you?

 

[ND4SPD]

heavy car man... and one of the lowest hp ratings for a v6 engine ive ever seen.

but yeah, as JS said - you DID test drive it before buying right? it shouldn't be surprising to you NOW :tongue:

 

[ov3n]

Originally posted by: ND4SPD
and one of the lowest hp ratings for a v6 engine ive ever seen.

...you must not have looked very hard.

 

[Pyrochaos]

Stock is the exact same quarter mile as a new sebring with a 2.5 V6

 

[JScullin]

How many miles do you have on it too? I'm sure if your something over 50k you could use a good cleaning of your UIM and replace the injectors maybe. Run some fuel system treatments through it (Lucas Oil) and maybe get a powerflush for your tranny?

 

[JRJOHNKC]

I've got 70k on my ATX and it pulls ok in comparision to the Grand Am ATX I've had in the past... I've never driven an MTX Coug so I can't compare the two, but the ATX is fine for me.

*2000 Mercury Cougar 2.5L V6 = 170hp / 165tq (3020lbs)
2000 Grand Am GT 3.4L V6 = 170hp / 200tq (3100lbs)
2000 Chrysler Seabring 2.5L V6 = 168hp / 170tq (3450lbs)
2000 Chevy Malibu 3.1L V6 = 170hp / 190tq (3050lbs)

Given the above information, I don't think the Cougar is that bad... Should be able to kick the crap out of the Seabring though... :biggrin:

 

[ND4SPD]

Originally posted by: ov3n

Originally posted by: ND4SPD
and one of the lowest hp ratings for a v6 engine ive ever seen.

...you must not have looked very hard.

heh yeah, that was my "arm-chair tech" response for the day...
- i just looked in that little brain / memory of mine :biggrin:

as i was writing, i was trying to think of which v6's had less than 170... i figured there couldn't be more than a handful...

 

[Lukydogg]

The cougar was a substantial upgrade for me. Went from a 4 banger 83 celica with no paint and whitewall 14" wheels and 16 speakers ...to a 99 v6 with hell of a lot of dings and scratches with painted 16" rims and only 9 speakers...counting all the tweeters mind you.
So I guess im fortunate to gain 62 hp and paint.

 

[NorCalCoug]

Cougar ATX == 1 full second slower in a 1/4 mile. It's a high 16/low 17 second car, easy. Ford ATX trannies blow goats.

 

[ND4SPD]

Originally posted by: Lukydogg
The cougar was a substantial upgrade for me. Went from a 4 banger 83 celica with no paint and whitewall 14" wheels and 16 speakers ...to a 99 v6 with hell of a lot of dings and scratches with painted 16" rims and only 9 speakers...counting all the tweeters mind you.
So I guess im fortunate to gain 62 hp and paint.

HELLZ YA!
i went from a Ford Escort station wagon to a Cougar - i was happy as a pig rolling in its own filth :biggrin:

 

[sonza68]

Originally posted by: JScullin
40% drivetrain loss from the time it goes from the engine through the tranny & out the wheels.

It's not really that bad, the drivetrain loss is actually about 25%. That's still crappy, but if it were really 40% the V6 ATXs would barely be putting 100hp to the wheels (102 to be exact).

 

[NorCalCoug]

They put around 120hp to the wheels. It's worse than you think.

 

[SamuraiCougar]

Lol I wish! Mine put 114 to the wheels at fest. If you were trying to go fast mercurycougar you bought the wrong car. IMHO the Cougar was made to look good(think about it except for the really early muscle car ones(made to go fast), all the other coug's were kinda luxury carish), while a car like the Mustang GT was made to go fast. If I were Ford I wouldda made the coug like this:

Regular Package(Offered ATX/MTX):
2.5 170 HP Duratec

Performance Package(MTX only):
Factory Supercharged 2.5L 250 HP Duratec

I mean look at what GM did with the New School Impala. You have your regular 3400 one with like 170ish Hp then you have the new SS with a supercharger and like 240ish hp.

 

[JRJOHNKC]

I'm sure someone around here has dynoed a stock ATX... :shrug:

 

[SamuraiCougar]

My dyno was stock.

 

[Zman]

It used to be one of the higher hp V6's back in 1999, but then after that every single car suddenly came with 200hp or more. My old 3.8 V6 T-bird only had something like 150 hp.

Edit: I sacrificed a manual to get the color I wanted, but I'm becoming more pleased with it after more mods, I'd even say it's pretty quick now.

 

[mercurycougar]

so my car really only has about 120 horsepower? thats bougus! a civic automatic has that much hp

 

[KoochieCivic]

Originally posted by: mercurycougar
so my car really only has about 120 horsepower? thats bougus! a civic automatic has that much hp

well now you're comparing crank hp to fwhp. An auto civic EX will probably get about ~100fwp and sub 100fwqt

 

[Guest]

I know how you feel, to me, being my first car, the cougar seems pretty nice. I have to agree with you that the cougar was designed to look nice, not go fast.Today for example, mind you i have little experience racing, raced a stock, four cylinder lancer, mtx. I did the little 1,2,d thing and got him a little off the line but he pulled ahead and got me in 2-3rd. We only went to about 80 mph and by this time he was about 4 ft leading. I may have done something wrong or the ATX is just slow. O well it was fun.
Nick