tuning with/or out secondaries - Page 4

cpapashley · 10-08-2006, 03:47 AM

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Originally Posted by warmonger

I think AEM aftermarket ecu's can be made to work and to power secondaries but that could just be rumor.

I would not do that if I were you though. I would just get an ecu and wiring harness from a cougar as you mentioned and then wire it up in your car. No more work than an aftermarket ecu and already has the correct parameters for a 2.5L duratec engine.

If you can get it the SVT Contour ecu/pcm is the best one to get IF you aren't going to run a chip. If you run a chip or flash the pcm with a new tune then get the standard Cougar/Contour/Mystique ecu/pcm.

I don't know the answer on the sensor waveforms that could be used for the aftermarket ECU but I suspect you could just hook up an oscilloscope and see what it looks like.

I'd definitely blow all that off and use a Ford PCM and just chip/flash it.

Thanks again for that info, made me do some more investigations, and came out the other end with the wonderful news that the MPV has the EECV PCM, which I understand is the same as the one in the cougars (makes sense).

Edit to move question to new thread!!!

DemonSVT · 10-10-2006, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by cpapashley

Thanks again for that info, made me do some more investigations, and came out the other end with the wonderful news that the MPV has the EECV PCM, which I understand is the same as the one in the cougars (makes sense).

Becareful you are not taking USDM vehicle specs and "assuming" your Australian DM MPV is the same. Many Ford cars outside the US still use EEC-IV even though USDM Ford cars went to EEC-V around the 1996 model year.

cpapashley · 10-11-2006, 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by DemonSVT

Becareful you are not taking USDM vehicle specs and "assuming" your Australian DM MPV is the same. Many Ford cars outside the US still use EEC-IV even though USDM Ford cars went to EEC-V around the 1996 model year.

Had been told that the PCM in the MPV was a proprietry mazda p-tech, but apparently that was for the 3.0l cars, tracked down the location of my PCM in the right hand drive and it had the name EEC-V on the label, so will be contacting a local group (on 15km away) that deal in the SCT chips to see what can be done. Has been soooooo helpful on the forum. Thanks guys.

fordrule · 11-16-2006, 08:04 AM

is there anyone that has tuned with the xcal for the removal of the secondaries, in a couple months when i am able to drive my car I want to correctly tune the car. I am planning on getting the PRP and 24lb injectors.

RodneyBur · 11-18-2006, 02:49 PM

There is only a couple of us running without secondaries. I haven't tuned mine yet since the holidays are coming up and I'm getting all my shopping done now. Not to mention my alternator cut out on me a couple weeks ago. I'm hoping to get it done in December and will be requesting a copy of my tune to save on my computer. If you still need info then I'd gladly send it to you. What ecu code will your PRP be programed to?

fordrule · 11-19-2006, 06:37 AM

the ecu code is ZKZ1

anyone have a PRP for that ecu?maybe....

warmonger · 11-19-2006, 01:24 PM

What the hell code is that???

ilovemycar · 11-19-2006, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by warmonger

What the hell code is that???

A cougar code for a returnless car.

mond12345 · 11-19-2006, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by warmonger

What the hell code is that???

LOL that was pretty good. Cougars are a little different than those groceries getter Contours!

warmonger · 11-21-2006, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by mond12345

LOL that was pretty good. Cougars are a little different than those groceries getter Contours!

Yeah, right bout now with both out of production and starting to look a tad aged...they don't look much different.

'cept the cougar has the same power as the base contour but weighs significantly more... lol
It even weighs a bit more than an SVT.

11-16-2006, 08:04 AM	#34 (permalink)
fordrule someone call a medvac Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: balad, iraq...again/Clarksville,Tn Posts: 5,337 Blog Entries: 1	Re: tuning with/or out secondaries is there anyone that has tuned with the xcal for the removal of the secondaries, in a couple months when i am able to drive my car I want to correctly tune the car. I am planning on getting the PRP and 24lb injectors. __________________ We Can Rebuild Her 3L MoToR:02 3L, SVT UIM/LIM/TB/INJ/CAMS, st200 springs, pnp, xcal 2,PRP, hi-flo cat HMS prepped mtx-75:quaife, slick shift forks, "koated kogbox", focus tower, B&M. car mod: GMK HP CF CAI, weapon r headers, relocated battery, st200 RTSB, OMP FTSB, GC, roush swaybar, Audi RS6 HIDs, angel eyes, CF fenders/hood/mirror caps/ eclipse gas door, painted taillight covers/headlight inserts, WW grill,18" centerline,Full Roush lip Kit and spoiler, 17" Roush Ver. 2 wheels.

11-18-2006, 02:49 PM	#35 (permalink)
RodneyBur NECO Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Cincinnati Posts: 2,436	Re: tuning with/or out secondaries There is only a couple of us running without secondaries. I haven't tuned mine yet since the holidays are coming up and I'm getting all my shopping done now. Not to mention my alternator cut out on me a couple weeks ago. I'm hoping to get it done in December and will be requesting a copy of my tune to save on my computer. If you still need info then I'd gladly send it to you. What ecu code will your PRP be programed to? __________________ 1999 Laser Red MTX 14.509 1/4 2.265 60' 2002 3L with SVT UIM, SVT LIM no secondaries, SVT Cams, SVT TB, 24# injectors, WR Headers & y-pipe, AEM Intake, SVT Clutch, Fidanza flywheel, Clevite rod bearings, ST200 valve springs, Underdrive pulleys, Escape oil pan, DMD, Magnecor KV85 Comp Wires, Polished timing cover-valve covers-MAF-TStat, Torsen LSD, Focus shift tower & forks, RP syncromax, SVT ECU, SCT Flip Chip, B&M Shifter, OMP FSTB, Mirko RSTB, Roush RSB, Roush Floor Mats, 2.5" Trubendz

11-19-2006, 06:37 AM	#36 (permalink)
fordrule someone call a medvac Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: balad, iraq...again/Clarksville,Tn Posts: 5,337 Blog Entries: 1	Re: tuning with/or out secondaries the ecu code is ZKZ1 anyone have a PRP for that ecu?maybe.... __________________ We Can Rebuild Her 3L MoToR:02 3L, SVT UIM/LIM/TB/INJ/CAMS, st200 springs, pnp, xcal 2,PRP, hi-flo cat HMS prepped mtx-75:quaife, slick shift forks, "koated kogbox", focus tower, B&M. car mod: GMK HP CF CAI, weapon r headers, relocated battery, st200 RTSB, OMP FTSB, GC, roush swaybar, Audi RS6 HIDs, angel eyes, CF fenders/hood/mirror caps/ eclipse gas door, painted taillight covers/headlight inserts, WW grill,18" centerline,Full Roush lip Kit and spoiler, 17" Roush Ver. 2 wheels.

11-19-2006, 01:24 PM	#37 (permalink)
warmonger NECO Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Central Texas Posts: 776	Re: tuning with/or out secondaries What the hell code is that??? __________________ My project website Nautilus Performance We are now an authorized SCT Dealer![SIGPIC]

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