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Old 01-07-2008, 05:56 PM   #1 (permalink)
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"B1" vs "A" MTX-75

why not..


MTX-75-A (US/NA CDW-27 MTX)
Manual, Five Speed
Max Input Torque: 250 Nm (184 Lb-Ft)
1st: 3.42 (37mph, 39mph)
2nd: 2.13 (59mph, 63mph)
3rd: 1.45 (87mph, 93mph)
4th: 1.03 (123mph, 131mph)
5th: 0.77 (164mph, 175mph)
Reverse: 3.73 (34mph, 36mph)
Final: 4.06 (V6) , 3.82 (I4)
Overall Weight: 46 Kg (101 Lb)

MTX-75-B1 (European CDW-27 MTX)
Manual, Five speed
Max Input Torque: 250 Nm (184 Ft-Lb)
1st: 3.42 (37mph, 39mph)
2nd: 2.13 (59mph, 63mph)
3rd: 1.48 (85mph, 91mph)
4th: 1.11 (114mph, 121mph)
5th: 0.86 (147mph, 156mph)
Reverse: 3.46 (36mph, 39mph)
Final: 4.06 (V6) , 3.82 (I4)
Overall Weight: 46 Kg (101 Lb)

calculations done w/ 6850rpm max engine speed and 215/55/16 tires. I also assumed the vehicle will have the power to attain such speed..

Source: FFClub > Все про движок 1.6 Ti-VCT (115 л. с.) (translated by google, numbers were the same though)


There's also other versions on the chart of the MTX-75 that i've never seen, ratio wise.


buckeyesvt posted some results with the carsoft performance meter.. I was going to enter my dyno and compare the performance differences regarding the A / B1 gearset, and final drives. The link was down though, does anyone have access to that program? (as seen in this thread)
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Old 01-07-2008, 06:13 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: If you're interested, "B1" vs "A" MTX-75

So with a 0.77:1 fifth gear and a 3.82:1 FD (fastcougar's turbo 3L) the car could go 202mph (yes, an insane notion) with a 7900rpm rev limit and stock 215/55/16 tires
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Re: "B1" vs "A" MTX-75

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buckeyesvt posted some results with the carsoft performance meter.. I was going to enter my dyno and compare the performance differences regarding the A / B1 gearset, and final drives. The link was down though, does anyone have access to that program? (as seen in this thread)
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Re: "B1" vs "A" MTX-75

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Max Input Torque: 250 Nm (184 Lb-Ft)
Ummm... Not true.

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Ummm... Not true.

I concur

As you can see in my dyno video, I can reach 150+ in 4th gear thanks to a non existant rev limiter. Based on my calcs, the most my car could see is roughly 190-192 MPH and that includes factoring in drag AND current hp/tq levels AND a 7,500 RPM limiter ... most calculators don't factor in drag. Kinda pointless since I don't have a road long enough to try it out on and I wouldn't if I did unless the car was caged and it where in some place like Bonneville.
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Re: "B1" vs "A" MTX-75

There was a 99 EX turbo civic with a stock body that went 199.3 @ the salt flats, turbocharged b18, ~320wtq. I would want to think you could beat that civic
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Re: "B1" vs "A" MTX-75

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There was a 99 EX turbo civic with a stock body that went 199.3 @ the salt flats, turbocharged b18, ~320wtq. I would want to think you could beat that civic
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There was a 99 EX turbo civic with a stock body that went 199.3 @ the salt flats, turbocharged b18, ~320wtq. I would want to think you could beat that civic
with a 10,000 RPM limit no doubt ... I could always raise my limit ... keep in mind, my calcs are based on a 7,500 RPM limit.
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Re: "B1" vs "A" MTX-75

Oh my god, could a duratec spin higher than 8500?
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Oh my god, could a duratec spin higher than 8500?
Test it and let us know what happens
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