Bill O'Reilly on freedom of the press

[BigBalledOX]

Evidently he only likes it when he agrees with it.

[CodyTRX]

Since the King Jackass title is taken, he gets the title of King Douchebag. That dude makes my blood boil.

[Danef150]

Awww the daily Kyos taking up for the NY times publishing a scewed poll. How sweet. Bad Orielly for pointing that out bad !

[NorCalCoug]

A skewed poll?

Did you not even read the article? Yet again? Why do you even bother wasting time tapping your digits against your keyboard?

[BigBalledOX]

Awww the daily Kyos taking up for the NY times publishing a scewed poll. How sweet. Bad Orielly for pointing that out bad !

So glad I didn't grow up in Louisiana and get the kind of edumacation you were so lucky to get.

[Danef150]

A skewed poll?

Did you not even read the article? Yet again? Why do you even bother wasting time tapping your digits against your keyboard?

I did read the article, I guess you didnt, The NY times used a poll that had about 75% Obama voters and used that to say that americans overwhelmingly supported obamacare. Why do you bother trying to insult people with everything you say? Overcompensating much ?

BBOX atleast I got an education you just randomly post things that your Obama overlord tells you to.

[NorCalCoug]

I did read the article, I guess you didnt, The NY times used a poll that had about 75% Obama voters and used that to say that americans overwhelmingly supported obamacare. Why do you bother trying to insult people with everything you say? Overcompensating much ?

BBOX atleast I got an education you just randomly post things that your Obama overlord tells you to.

I don't see anything in the article that says the NY Times used a poll that included 75% of Obama voters.

In fact, even when I clicked on a link inside of that link, the best I could find is this:

895 people randomly sampled.
50% of Republicans sampled support a public plan.
75% of independents support a public plan.
90% of Democrats support a public plan.


So even if you took 50% republicans and 50% democrats in a sample of 895 people, your percentage would still be 69% (and this doesn't count influence of independents), and that's still a majority. And of course, the country isn't 50% republican, 50% democrat.

Considering that in the US, there are 55 million registered Republicans, 72 million registered Democrats, and 42 million registered independents or "no party", I think it's perfectly acceptable to realize that a random sampling poll will have more democrats and independents than they will have republicans.

Democrats + Independents == 114m
Republicans = 55m

So if we divided it up into a yes/no category based on the total number of registered party voters in the US-

Yes: 123.8m (73%)
No: 45.2m (27%)

[Danef150]

I don't see anything in the article that says the NY Times used a poll that included 75% of Obama voters.

Latest New York Times/CBS News Poll on Health - The New York Times
Im sorry it was 65% still more than the percentage of the popular vote that Obama got. That would be oversampling correct ?

In fact, even when I clicked on a link inside of that link, the best I could find is this:

895 people randomly sampled.
50% of Republicans sampled support a public plan.
75% of independents support a public plan.
90% of Democrats support a public plan.

From the looks of how they "Randomly sample" I could assume that they also probably did this in a very liberal area of the country. Where you might see numbers like this. The whole poll is flawed.

So even if you took 50% republicans and 50% democrats in a sample of 895 people, your percentage would still be 69% (and this doesn't count influence of independents), and that's still a majority. And of course, the country isn't 50% republican, 50% democrat.

Considering that in the US, there are 55 million registered Republicans, 72 million registered Democrats, and 42 million registered independents or "no party", I think it's perfectly acceptable to realize that a random sampling poll will have more democrats and independents than they will have republicans.

Democrats + Independents == 114m
Republicans = 55m

So if we divided it up into a yes/no category based on the total number of registered party voters in the US-

Yes: 123.8m (73%)
No: 45.2m (27%)

Again information based off of a skewed poll done by people who are notoriously partisain.

Heres a bit of a better poll that reflects the nation
Rasmussen Reports: The Most Comprehensive Public Opinion Data Anywhere

Ohh and politifacts on the NY Times poll
PolitiFact | 62 percent support new health care legislation, not Barack Obama's particular plan

[NorCalCoug]

Latest New York Times/CBS News Poll on Health - The New York Times
Im sorry it was 65% still more than the percentage of the popular vote that Obama got. That would be oversampling correct ?

There are more registered Democrats in this country than registered Republicans.

By this very token of simple logic, there will always be a larger percentage of democrats sampled during a "random sampling". The percentage of people that were included in the poll who were democrat does not mean that those people voted for Obama- as you can recall, there are plenty of people who do not vote their party lines.

Whether or not the NY Times article is correct or incorrect is not in question here. I was simply stating that your assumption that the poll is skewed was baseless, and then you whipped a magically impressive "75%" number out of your rectum, which later turned into 65% (Who knows what it might be tomorrow!) which is actually fairly close to a percentage function of democrats vs. republicans.

Basically what it boils down to is that every time someone even whispers a name that starts with the letter O, you run around screaming LEFT WING MEDIA CONSPIRACY ZOMG ZOMG SKEWED NUMBERS LIBERAL COMMIE PINKOS, and I enjoy poking at your house of cards with a welding torch.

Maybe I'm just hoping one of these days one of the cards hits you in the head and you actually get knocked into reality.

[marinofan]

I actually registered at 18 and thought I was a republican... I have since learned I'm not but never changed my status because I've never voted in an election where i had to declare since then.

so that could screw up the percentages even more. lol