The Undead Gateway Thread

[BigBalledOX]

Originally Posted by sonza68

It will indeed be interesting to see just what happened. Based on what I've seen so far any attempt to explain what happen would just be a guess, and not a very educated one at that. It's a shame to see this happen because I believe the 777 had a perfect safety record until today.

Still does! Its never been involved in a fatal accident.

[sonza68]

Ture. I don't know how exactly they determine those numbers. Are they just for fatalities, or do they include loss of aircraft (this on is close) or injuries (this one had 3)? You then get into pilot error. It isn't necessarily the airplanes fault when a CFIT (Controlled Flight Into Terrain) occurs, which has happened a few times.

[Terec]

well if boeing could make a plane that flies

[sonza68]

We do, and the planes can fly themselves, but passengers feel more comfortable having a pair of people up front.

[BigBalledOX]

Originally Posted by sonza68

Ture. I don't know how exactly they determine those numbers. Are they just for fatalities, or do they include loss of aircraft (this on is close) or injuries (this one had 3)? You then get into pilot error. It isn't necessarily the airplanes fault when a CFIT (Controlled Flight Into Terrain) occurs, which has happened a few times.

I definitely don't know how they tabulate those statistics, but, I think its safe to say no one's ever died from an incident involving a 777's flight, if only because there are multiple sources I have read indicating it has never been involved in a fatal accident.

Wikipedia further supports a lack of previous fatalities and also indicates initial reports claiming the pilot was trying to dead-stick the landing.

Obviously take that with a grain of salt as its Wikipedia, but it backs other sources I've seen.

[sonza68]

Initial reports do say that, they also say it didn't run out of fuel. That leads one to assume a dual engine failure, which hasn't ever happened on a modern jetliner and falls into the category of extremely unlikely. I'm more likely to believe one or more of the initial reports is inaccurate. There was also report of a significant electrical issue, but that shouldn't cause you to dead stick it.

[BigBalledOX]

I read some somewhat frightening stuff about fuel levels and how airlines are trying to cut costs by putting as little additional fuel in the aircraft as possible, which is a bit disconcerting. On the other hand, that article primarily concerned American-flagged carriers so that may not even be a question in this case.

I'll be very interested to see the outcome of this. I know there's so many redundancies on passenger aircraft that if it was some sort of total system failure, it'll be interesting to find out just what caused it.

[jaged]

stupid internets were broken all day at work and i just now got home. trading the boxed control arms for a svt rad, have somethign more to add to my mod list now

[jaged]

terry, how much wold one of your robot batteries cost?

[Terec]

probly something along the lines of: