Corn fed Cougar?

[madcustomz]

i dont know were you heard it gets better mpg but thats wrong its just better for the air and cheaper but does not save money in the long run.

[Comando489]

Originally Posted by madcustomz

i dont know were you heard it gets better mpg but thats wrong its just better for the air and cheaper but does not save money in the long run.

no not the mpg, but the octane rating and improved performance.

[papatedroach]

Well since no one actually answered the question yet of how. My educated geuss as an engineer would be to lower the compresion ratio. With a lower octain rating you would be more suseptiable to premature dentination (knock). So a lower compresion ratio would prevent the fuel from premature dentination (knock). You will make less power and have a lower mpg but your motor will still run. You would also want to look into custom tuning to better handle the lower compression ratio.

[JayZee]

Originally Posted by madcustomz

i dont know were you heard it gets better mpg but thats wrong its just better for the air and cheaper but does not save money in the long run.

You're right that it's not much cheaper... as your vehicle will consume more E85 vs. 87octane but the E85 is like 60 cents cheaper...

Also, it's not better for the air. To produce Ethanol, 20% more CO2 emissions are released into the atmosphere rather than gasoline being burnt in your car. It might seem cleaner because it is when it leave your car, but the factories that produce it are very pollutant, and also use TONS AND TONS of water per gallon of Ethanol.

EDIT:: and hasn't anyone noticed the price of corn lately?!?!?!?! It's INSANE!!! This one restaurant a friend of mine works at no longer gives you free baskets of tortilla chips like before (they gave you the first three baskets free). Now they give you one basket for free and any after that you have to pay for. Otherwise, the restaurant won't make any money.

Price of corn is going up because it's getting taken away by this E85 bull****.

In conclusion, IMHO, E85 is much worse than regular 87 octane, especially in the long run, as it pollutes more (just to make it), drives food prices up and creates more hunger in third world countries.

[Tygerr]

You'd be better off buying a diesel and modifying it to run off vegatable oil, or buy a car that runs e-85. It's not worth the money to have your car converted over, and I'm not very sure on the future of e-85 being the next fuel.

[LinkMan]

Making fuel from food is Stupid.

To be FlexFuel, you need bigger injectors, octane sensors, and an ECU that can adjust to the mixture of gasoline and/or E85 in the tank - unless you plan on never using gasoline again and only running E85.

E85 is higher octane (100-105 versus 87-93 for gasoline), but lower "stoichiometric fuel ratio". If it were run in an engine designed for E85 (higher compression), it would be more powerful and more efficient, similar to diesel. But then you couldn't switch to gasoline, and you'd lose the Flex part. It's less efficient than gasoline when run in a Flex engine.

[azbobbybooshay10]

Originally Posted by freednighthawk

Wallmart managed to slip some into my gas tank when I had one of my tires replaced. I thought I they had blown a headgasket or something untill I realized what happened.

What makes you think that Wal Mart put E85 in your tank? I work in a Wal Mart tire shop, and what you just said makes absolutely NO sense.

[CheeseEater88]

Ok, Changing the subject slightly...


Since I got fed up with those run your car on water scams... they are scams even though they work....


they use electrolisis to separate water into a gas form


those scams use Oxyhydrogen gas as an oxidzer/additive/supliment (too tired to actually look up correct term)

water that undergoes electrolisis can readily be converted to 2H2 + O2 (Oxyhydrogen)


they use that gas where we might use our NOS in midline on the intake

some sites say that it'll boost milage by 50% and so on... while it maybe one in a billion that experience that gain... its worth looking into further.


the only thing I worry about is rusting through the exhaust... its by-product is water.. but gasoline has that too...

and also the strain it may put on the battery maybe... not so good...

but it mainly increases effiecency.... which is good considering gas cars see around 15% of the energy they use... which could make it worth while.


and anyone who thinks they can run a car solely on water is fooling themselves... law of conservation puts an end to that. I read on this one site "only a handful" have done it...


Edit: After searching relentlessly on youtube for about one and one half minutes... I came across this one guy and his HHO injected Escort wagon.... while he talks rather slow... his experiments are viable.... and very much worth looking into. A 60MPG car... not too shaby....

Only thing I would do different is chip my car to run lean, not make a by-pass circuit on the O2 sensor.

link is : YouTube - sm0ky40's Videos

[skater]

So you think those kits work because a YouTube video provides evidence?

[Skidmark]

You could always do a 3L swao... couldnt ya'? im pretty shure the taurus is a FFV. Right?