Cryogenics or new internals?

[erfnick1]

CheeseEater88 you might want to check out ceg forum cause i recently read some thing on Cryo treatments by a company. a guy was wondering the same thing but it was for a dirve shaft not the whole engine.

[c0alition]

yea.. i was wondering about that too.. instead of a new crank.. just getting it frozen.. i'm still buying new pistons and rods.. 130k miles just doesn't seem nice.. and i need to lower compression for turbo.

[bensenvill]

Originally Posted by MOMO

Cryo treatment is NOT a new technology. it has been around for at least 15 years that i know of.
i dont think anyone on the board has experience with it so you might want to cruise some other forum to get your questions answered.

better yet, google it.

actually over 60 years. One of my house's alumni is a cryrogenics engineer. [now that I think of it, I'm sitting within 50 feet of a crygenics lab]. Yes there definitely is some legitamacy to the process. I dunno if I would waste 300 on treating stock internals, but if your going crazy with things.... maybe.

[fordrule]

go for it terry just accidently drop off a bunch of parts there to be treates

[CheeseEater88]

Originally Posted by c0alition

yea.. i was wondering about that too.. instead of a new crank.. just getting it frozen.. i'm still buying new pistons and rods.. 130k miles just doesn't seem nice.. and i need to lower compression for turbo.

I don't even know where to begin to look for a crank for the I4... *looks for advice*
I think I'll go the route c0alition is, my car is sitting on 75K... by the time I get the money to afford myself the pistons, rods, suspension, turbo, intake and the treatment... it will be next summer... or longer


$3,000+ for a whole new car.... but a very fun one at that...
45lbs of boost sound cool?? and of course I'll run it very lean with 150 shot of nitrous... and of course the ever popular V-Tec stickers... wait... I have VCT... it'd be redundant...

[MOMO]

with your car with such high mileage, i would go with new internals.
cryo treatments really doesnt help old engine parts.

[FastCougar]

Not Tuning & Calibration related, moving to garage talk.

[bensenvill]

WTF Trevor!

I need to know how to TUNE for my crygenically treated rods.

[CheeseEater88]

Originally Posted by bensenvill

WTF Trevor!

I need to know how to TUNE for my crygenically treated rods.

lol lol lal

your post made my day...


so now that I have given up plans on a 3.0L swap (would have been rediculas as in $6-8K... going from an I4) I decided to turn to turbos.

but damn my ADD is picking up again got freaken RWD V8 cougars on the brains.


but I wonder what to do as so far as making the ultimate daily driver/ sleeper

about $1900 in the bank... keeping about 400 after expenses each month...
it'd be like 38 months before I could drive a V8 Cougar *sigh* but damn if it won't be worth the Sh**s and grins

the only other car I'd want beside the cougar would be any of the Ford GTs the GT-90, GT, GT-40s..
and maybe the falcon.

thinking about a rolling chassis, make some sort of kit car. (that'd be $40K and it would be even more illegal than my cougar with the V8)

I cannot not stand GM... *sigh* there are 3 on my driveway at home I can say this from experience... I just don't like the seats, or the funky smells...

[shoult]

Originally Posted by CheeseEater88

Actually I don't know to much about either, but my mechanic swears that it'll be worth it to freeze my stuff for around $300 than to even buy any new parts.

I've know some racers that have had great luck with it doing gears for diferentials and gearboxes. Also some that do their disc brake rotors. But NONE that have used it in engines building.

All the guys I know cryoing their gears are making 500-750HP (5L+ V8s) and are SERIOUS racers. They are tearing down their cars each race and inspecting everything. They tell me that they do it for the last little nth percentile. It's not what they spend their hard earned dollars on first.

Some of the guys that are running cryoed rotors are saying that they run them for x number of races and then toss them whether they are bad or not. They seems to be more susectible to shattering without warning after x number of race hours. Each racer I've talked to has his own idea of what x is.