Project: Mavro Gato - 99 Turbo'd 3L - Page 93

PREDATOR · 05-31-2008, 07:36 PM

DAMN! Too bad that red truck was in the way

Bergie_dark by design · 05-31-2008, 07:38 PM

hahaha i wasnt watching it that close... thats awesome!

FastCougar · 05-31-2008, 10:05 PM

Lots of progress today. I replaced both coolant sensors while the entire turbo system was out of the car. I found a great spot for the air/oil seperator a few nights back ... I only had to adjust the orientation of the tubes to avoid the down pipe. Here is the placement from a few nights back:

Now for todays progress. I basically cleaned all the oil out of everything and put it all back together and routing the air/oil seperator lines into the intake pre-turbo. If this works, well, I will not bother with the slash-cut tube approach. I got a late start on the day since it rained all morning. I didn't get started till 5 PM and wrapped it up around 8:45 PM. Unfortunately, the battery in the car is stone cold dead and I needed to use jumper cables to get the car started. I will be charging it all night tonight. Tomorrow I will begin working on the ducting for the intercooler and radiator to solve the cooling issue as I think this will solve the oiling issue ... I will find out tomorrow.

gamiller · 05-31-2008, 11:21 PM

Lotsa good pics there, thanks! You've got very clean routing!

Looks to me like you've got the vacuum booster, the PCV valve, and the valve cover breather all going to the catch can, which in turn is routed to the intake just ahead of the turbo. I hope that works for you, but recall that air flows into the valve cover but out of the PCV valve. What happens when both are connected to the catch can? I don't think it's a major issue, but here's an expert opinion:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saikou Michi
Q:Why not join the breather and the PCV line into 1 can?

A: The simplest way to explain it is this... The PCV system works in ONE direction. Under vacuum the flow comes from the valve cover through the PCV valve and into the intake manifold, during this time, the air that is being sucked out is being replaced by the air coming in through the breather hose. Air comes in, and air goes out through the PCV line. When 2 lines go into 1 can, there is NO VACUUM effect possible.

FastCougar · 06-01-2008, 02:18 AM

Good catch Gary ... after looking at my notes, I just realized that I do have it plumbed incorrectly ... corrections coming!

ironworker · 06-01-2008, 02:17 PM

Just Got Done Reading This Whole Thing, Took About 4 Hours..and I'd Have To Say You Got Your S*@t Together Buddy!!

FastCougar · 06-05-2008, 09:09 PM

Well, the car ran like a champ last night. I ran the car for a good hour and tried to heat soak it by doing multiple short boost runs in a row and then doing the speed limit. After one full hour, no sign of overheating. In fact, I suspect that the car never had a cooling problem and that the sensor's where damaged during the next to last dyno run. After that point, they where operating out of range and couldn't send a proper signal to the ecu or the gauge cluster. Replacing both sensors in the crossover tube seems to have solved the problem. However, I will be designing a ducting solution anyways as the true test will be tomorrow as the temps will be in the mid to high 90's nearly all day long. After 3:30, I plan on getting the car on the road for extensive heat testing.

Concerning the oiling issue solution, I basically followed the stock setup, but plumbed in BOTH air/oil seperators I have running one for the PCV and one for the Valce Cover Breathers (VCB). I tried the VCB's venting to atmosphere through small cone filters and it still spewed quite a bit of oil. So, I simply plumbed the VCB's the same way I did the PCV with the only problem being the air/oil seperator placement. I need to take pictures, but the system is perfectly balanced up front with the VCB's routing to the passenger's side of the car in the exact same possition as the PCV seperator.

I'll try to get video of the guages only for some quick acceleration runs.

wadespencer99 · 06-05-2008, 09:54 PM

I'll be right down!

gamiller · 06-06-2008, 02:03 AM

which catch cans are you using anyway? are those the corvette ones you posted earlier? they do look nice.

FastCougar · 06-06-2008, 10:19 AM

You are correct sir ... pictures and video coming tonight possibly, but definitely by weekend's end. The Catch Cans are from here:

http://www.customcorvetteaccessories...lcatchcan.html

They are fully machined from aluminum and are top quailty units and do a spectacular job. Absolutely no oil out of the BOV since plumbing them in.

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05-31-2008, 10:05 PM	#923 (permalink)
FastCougar In search of more boost! Join Date: Nov 1999 Location: Kearneysville, WV Posts: 8,317 Images: 732	Re: Project: Mavro Gato - 99 Turbo'd 3L Lots of progress today. I replaced both coolant sensors while the entire turbo system was out of the car. I found a great spot for the air/oil seperator a few nights back ... I only had to adjust the orientation of the tubes to avoid the down pipe. Here is the placement from a few nights back: Now for todays progress. I basically cleaned all the oil out of everything and put it all back together and routing the air/oil seperator lines into the intake pre-turbo. If this works, well, I will not bother with the slash-cut tube approach. I got a late start on the day since it rained all morning. I didn't get started till 5 PM and wrapped it up around 8:45 PM. Unfortunately, the battery in the car is stone cold dead and I needed to use jumper cables to get the car started. I will be charging it all night tonight. Tomorrow I will begin working on the ducting for the intercooler and radiator to solve the cooling issue as I think this will solve the oiling issue ... I will find out tomorrow. __________________ 1999 Mercury Cougar - Turbo'd 3L. Status: Car on hold ... preparing for baby #2 Power: 391.9 hp @ 6750 rpm \| 374.2 lbs/ft. @ 4250 rpm \| boost @ 11 psi For Sale: 19" Konig Verdicts with Toyo ProxesFZ4 225/35ZR19 Tires - $850 shipped! "Physical slavery requires people to be housed and fed. Economic slavery requires people to feed and house themselves." - Zeitgeist: Addendum

06-01-2008, 02:18 AM	#925 (permalink)
FastCougar In search of more boost! Join Date: Nov 1999 Location: Kearneysville, WV Posts: 8,317 Images: 732	Re: Project: Mavro Gato - 99 Turbo'd 3L Good catch Gary ... after looking at my notes, I just realized that I do have it plumbed incorrectly ... corrections coming! __________________ 1999 Mercury Cougar - Turbo'd 3L. Status: Car on hold ... preparing for baby #2 Power: 391.9 hp @ 6750 rpm \| 374.2 lbs/ft. @ 4250 rpm \| boost @ 11 psi For Sale: 19" Konig Verdicts with Toyo ProxesFZ4 225/35ZR19 Tires - $850 shipped! "Physical slavery requires people to be housed and fed. Economic slavery requires people to feed and house themselves." - Zeitgeist: Addendum

06-01-2008, 02:17 PM	#926 (permalink)
ironworker NECO Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: BEAR DELAWARE Posts: 109	Re: Project: Mavro Gato - 99 Turbo'd 3L Just Got Done Reading This Whole Thing, Took About 4 Hours..and I'd Have To Say You Got Your S*@t Together Buddy!!

06-05-2008, 09:09 PM	#927 (permalink)
FastCougar In search of more boost! Join Date: Nov 1999 Location: Kearneysville, WV Posts: 8,317 Images: 732	Re: Project: Mavro Gato - 99 Turbo'd 3L Well, the car ran like a champ last night. I ran the car for a good hour and tried to heat soak it by doing multiple short boost runs in a row and then doing the speed limit. After one full hour, no sign of overheating. In fact, I suspect that the car never had a cooling problem and that the sensor's where damaged during the next to last dyno run. After that point, they where operating out of range and couldn't send a proper signal to the ecu or the gauge cluster. Replacing both sensors in the crossover tube seems to have solved the problem. However, I will be designing a ducting solution anyways as the true test will be tomorrow as the temps will be in the mid to high 90's nearly all day long. After 3:30, I plan on getting the car on the road for extensive heat testing. Concerning the oiling issue solution, I basically followed the stock setup, but plumbed in BOTH air/oil seperators I have running one for the PCV and one for the Valce Cover Breathers (VCB). I tried the VCB's venting to atmosphere through small cone filters and it still spewed quite a bit of oil. So, I simply plumbed the VCB's the same way I did the PCV with the only problem being the air/oil seperator placement. I need to take pictures, but the system is perfectly balanced up front with the VCB's routing to the passenger's side of the car in the exact same possition as the PCV seperator. I'll try to get video of the guages only for some quick acceleration runs. __________________ 1999 Mercury Cougar - Turbo'd 3L. Status: Car on hold ... preparing for baby #2 Power: 391.9 hp @ 6750 rpm \| 374.2 lbs/ft. @ 4250 rpm \| boost @ 11 psi For Sale: 19" Konig Verdicts with Toyo ProxesFZ4 225/35ZR19 Tires - $850 shipped! "Physical slavery requires people to be housed and fed. Economic slavery requires people to feed and house themselves." - Zeitgeist: Addendum Last edited by FastCougar; 06-06-2008 at 12:15 AM.

06-05-2008, 09:54 PM	#928 (permalink)
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06-06-2008, 02:03 AM	#929 (permalink)
gamiller Emission Test Flunkee Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Fairfax, VA Posts: 2,706 Images: 4 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Project: Mavro Gato - 99 Turbo'd 3L which catch cans are you using anyway? are those the corvette ones you posted earlier? they do look nice. __________________ Roush Performance Suspension Nautilus Performance Stage 3 Turbo Kit Last edited by gamiller; 06-23-2008 at 12:07 AM.

06-06-2008, 10:19 AM	#930 (permalink)
FastCougar In search of more boost! Join Date: Nov 1999 Location: Kearneysville, WV Posts: 8,317 Images: 732	Re: Project: Mavro Gato - 99 Turbo'd 3L You are correct sir ... pictures and video coming tonight possibly, but definitely by weekend's end. The Catch Cans are from here: http://www.customcorvetteaccessories...lcatchcan.html They are fully machined from aluminum and are top quailty units and do a spectacular job. Absolutely no oil out of the BOV since plumbing them in. __________________ 1999 Mercury Cougar - Turbo'd 3L. Status: Car on hold ... preparing for baby #2 Power: 391.9 hp @ 6750 rpm \| 374.2 lbs/ft. @ 4250 rpm \| boost @ 11 psi For Sale: 19" Konig Verdicts with Toyo ProxesFZ4 225/35ZR19 Tires - $850 shipped! "Physical slavery requires people to be housed and fed. Economic slavery requires people to feed and house themselves." - Zeitgeist: Addendum

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