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Blackcoog
08-20-2006, 01:53 AM
Cougar = 3 ...... SRT-4 = 0
My younger brother talked me into going down to midway and I came across a SRT-4 that had an exhaust and digital boost controller from what I could see. I turned onto the freeway on-ramp and he followed and we gave it a pretty good run all the way up into 4th. I took him pretty good down low but it was a really good run. He kept up. Keep in mind I'm not running the supercharger yet (waiting for a belt). I figured he would probably take me as those can be pretty fast. After a few more good runs (I pulled away pretty good in the other ones) I pulled off into a gas station off of 35W and we talked for a bit. We exchanged mod lists. He had the basic bolt-ons and said he would run mid 13's. That makes me feel pretty good. I ran a 14.3 last time at the track with my hybrid setup. I'm now running a ported oval port 3L.
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michcougar
08-20-2006, 02:02 AM
Bet you cant wait to see what it will run now before and after the s/c
AndyMan
08-20-2006, 02:15 AM
thats pretty awsome that a fully bolt-on 3L can run as fast if not faster then a srt-4... i always thought u needed some F/I to beat one of those...
awsome!!
( by the way, most threads that mention srt-4 usually end up getting lock... just to give u a heads up ) :cover:
BlackBetty
08-20-2006, 06:06 AM
lol NEON!!! haha no thoes things MOVE! but yeah good run dude!!
Tygerr
08-20-2006, 11:17 AM
Why does everyone that owns a super neon feel so damn impressed with themselves? They always flaunt it off as if it's a c6 vette. It may be "fast", but I'll never own one.
Nice run though. You're car's a beast no doubt.
shadowfox28
08-20-2006, 06:50 PM
stock turbo setup? i donno about mid 13's???maybe
BlackBetty
08-20-2006, 10:50 PM
stock turbo setup? i donno about mid 13's???maybe
neon lover :gtfo:
shadowfox28
08-20-2006, 10:59 PM
neon lover :gtfo:
I'm saying that the car is slower than originally posted... How does that make me a neon lover. O Almighty race God?
BlackBetty
08-20-2006, 11:12 PM
I'm saying that the car is slower than originally posted... How does that make me a neon lover. O Almighty race God?
umm drivers do make a difference, not to mention how well the car is running, how much fule is in the tank, milage, temprature etc.....but ease up eh, you seem a little on edge lol did a civic cut you off this morning?
and remember....
Wooooosahhh! (rubbing earlobes)
StealthyWeasel
08-21-2006, 02:26 AM
Wooooosahhh! (rubbing earlobes)
goose frah-bah!
Damn, I can't sleep.
Blackcoog
08-21-2006, 08:24 AM
I'm saying that the car is slower than originally posted... How does that make me a neon lover. O Almighty race God?
And you know this why? Have you ever researched track times for that car? Seems like a very good estimate based on all the time slips posted in the SRT forums. Actually most are running faster than mid 13's with simple bolt ons. With just exhaust and stock tires there are a few posting high 13's or low 14's. The guy I ran had more than just an exhaust.
ND4SPD
08-21-2006, 10:36 AM
coog... you're going to argue with shadowfox and blackbetty? - don't waste your time. ;)
good run!
Blackcoog
08-21-2006, 01:34 PM
thx
Josh125XR
08-21-2006, 01:41 PM
Sweetness, can't wait till the day I can make the coog that FAST!
BlackBetty
08-21-2006, 04:42 PM
hey i'm not calling BS or trying to argue, i'm just laughing at how razzed up shadowfox got.
said it before and i'll say it again good kill :)
foxslayer
08-21-2006, 05:50 PM
And you know this why? Have you ever researched track times for that car? Seems like a very good estimate based on all the time slips posted in the SRT forums. Actually most are running faster than mid 13's with simple bolt ons. With just exhaust and stock tires there are a few posting high 13's or low 14's. The guy I ran had more than just an exhaust.
blackcoog is pretty close on his numbers. i remember back 05 i reasearched them thinking of getting one after a friend of mine did. i remember seen a official srt-4 site stating on the top of there site. 14.1 with professional driver. so i can see a modded one doing high 13's low 14's. I do know from seening in person its takes a certain touch to launch it with out burning the tires up, so driver ability plays more into than probably most cars do. Good kill makes me feel good that cougars can kill them.
Also from test driving 4 of them they do vary in how they run. so of them run great others are kinda doggish compared to another one of the same year. wierd..:crazy:
shadowfox28
08-21-2006, 06:03 PM
everything i say is taken offensively....im not knocking anyone or anything like that... just my friend has a complety stock srt-4 with an intake.. The thing is not to much faster than the coug... and i'm damn shore im not running anything better than low 17's,
pgtatx
08-21-2006, 06:18 PM
My friend's completely stock SRT-4 ran a 14.003, after some small mods he was running 13.8's consistently...
I know there are faster stock SRT-4's out there... but no cougar stock or bolt on modded will keep up with them... Of course driver limited... any car can beat any car... 16 sec STi's and Evo's exist... though on paper they are 12sec cars...
So I have to say an SRT-4 with an intake is a bunch faster than a Cougar...
Tygerr
08-21-2006, 11:30 PM
everything i say is taken offensively....im not knocking anyone or anything like that... just my friend has a complety stock srt-4 with an intake.. The thing is not to much faster than the coug... and i'm damn shore im not running anything better than low 17's,
3-4 seconds is a HUGE difference.
BlackBetty
08-22-2006, 07:29 AM
Also from test driving 4 of them they do vary in how they run. so of them run great others are kinda doggish compared to another one of the same year. wierd..:crazy:
Speaking of that, I heard that some of thoes things are programmed differnetly... like theres 3 stages of chips..they're all fast as hell but it also varies. for example like the stage 1 is low 15's , stage 2 is mid 14's and stage 3 is low 14's... does this sound right to anyone or is it all :bs:
Blackcoog
08-23-2006, 08:22 AM
There are different stages but a Stock SRT is low 14's so you have your times messed up.
BTW I found the guy I raced online and asked him to stop over at my place as he only lives about a block from my house. We each gave the other guy rides and I showed him a Contour I was working on and let him drive it. Now he wants to buy a 3L Contour from me for the winter. :) Sweet!
His car is definately fast. From a stop if he drove it all out and kept the turbo spooled he should be faster. He let me drive it and it really lags if you don't run it all the way up to red line and shift fast.
GrandMasterKhan
08-23-2006, 05:24 PM
I have heard of well modified 3.0s running neck to neck with mildly modded SRT4s.
So i believe you 100%! Of course it makes me want to 3.0 my cougar all the more! I look forward to seeingyour cougar in person someday!
mond12345
08-23-2006, 05:40 PM
A 05' stock SRT-4 has over 50 crank HP over a Cougar. Now TQ on the other hand is even more with over 80 TQ over us. So of course they are going to be faster than a Cougar.
Nice run Blackcoog!
foxslayer
08-23-2006, 06:07 PM
i know that the older srt4's are supposily faster than the newer ones. something to do with programing and something else that i read
Josh125XR
08-24-2006, 01:54 AM
i know that the older srt4's are supposily faster than the newer ones. something to do with programing and something else that i read
Actual I believe you've got it backwards the 03' Srt-4 were only pushing 215hp & 230ish TQ the 04'/05' Srt-4's come 230hp 250TQ w/Limited Diff. Better injectors I believe also. BF G-force tires stock which are sweet from experience :evil:
BlackBetty
08-24-2006, 06:30 AM
There are different stages but a Stock SRT is low 14's so you have your times messed up.
BTW I found the guy I raced online and asked him to stop over at my place as he only lives about a block from my house. We each gave the other guy rides and I showed him a Contour I was working on and let him drive it. Now he wants to buy a 3L Contour from me for the winter. :) Sweet!
His car is definately fast. From a stop if he drove it all out and kept the turbo spooled he should be faster. He let me drive it and it really lags if you don't run it all the way up to red line and shift fast.
ok now that makes sence!! thanks dude!:)
Blackcoog
08-24-2006, 07:57 AM
BTW it was an 04 with a LSD.
EDawg99
09-11-2006, 01:49 PM
Yeah, I'll bring this back from the dead cuz I'm never on here.
SRT-4's are decently quick stock. And there are 3 staged kits offered by Mopar. I personally have Stage 2 on my car, with intake/exhaust, and my best time to date is a 13.3@106mph. Now that was on a 95 degree day, and you all know how much f/i hates hot days.
With slicks a stage 2 car will be in the mid to high 12's all day long. I think that if I had some traction bars and some better tires I'd probably be dipping into the 12's, even though it may be a 12.99, and that is still on stock turbo. There have been plenty of stock turbo SRT's in the 12's, add slicks and nitrous and you can hit 11's.
I have also seen quite a few SRT's hitting anywhere from high 14's to high 15's. That is due to a bad or inexperienced driver. The main problem with these cars is the lack of traction due to the high amount of torque and the fwd. Launching these cars is a very difficult thing to do. You also can't get a good time if the track is prepped bad. Last time I was at the track it was pretty cool out, and I was actually getting some pretty good launches, but every time i shifted into 2nd and 3rd gear, my tires broke loose and just spun, causing a bad et.
I just thought I'd share some info, because from what I read there are some mis/unimformed people here. By no means do I think that the SRT-4 is the fastest car in the world, and I am not doubting blackcoog's win, sounds like you are gonna have one hell of a beast once you get that blower running.
Take what I say to heart, or don't believe it,or forget it if you wanna.:)
-Eric
EternalOne
09-11-2006, 04:54 PM
I have yet to drive an FWD drag-car that's isn't a pain to handle at launch. =)
E1
Aww, this looked like a fun thread too bad I missed it...
AndyMan
09-18-2006, 12:03 AM
its still not to late...
although its nice to see that a NA 3L cougar can hang with a srt4... makes me want to put in a 3L this instant.. :thumbsup:
BlackBetty
09-18-2006, 01:37 AM
ya for sure man.. I was talking to this guy he was saying how he beat an SRT-4 untill he governed out, then I found out he has a stock GMC serria lol with a 350..i have a feeling the SRT didn't know he was racing...or it was a SRX 2.0 (something like that..i think its the neon under the SRT) but anyways i wanted to punch him in the face when he told me that... and punch him again when he told me he can gain 30hp by changing his distubritor cap, plugs and wires... haha at that point i just got up and walked away.
michcougar
09-18-2006, 03:36 AM
Theres a neon sx 2.0, and also a neon r/t, both are slow!
The srt 4 is the only fast one
BlackBetty
09-18-2006, 11:20 AM
yeah it was probably one of thoes two..saw a sx 2.0 today...im guessing he probably thought that was an SRT-4 b/c theres NO way a truck would beat that... unless it was a lightning or something
99ADCCOUGAR
09-19-2006, 07:32 PM
yeah it was probably one of thoes two..saw a sx 2.0 today...im guessing he probably thought that was an SRT-4 b/c theres NO way a truck would beat that... unless it was a lightning or something
ive seen a 50 trim SRT creamed by an s10.
s10 had a built LS-1
dyed4ordblue
09-20-2006, 12:45 PM
yeah it was probably one of thoes two..saw a sx 2.0 today...im guessing he probably thought that was an SRT-4 b/c theres NO way a truck would beat that... unless it was a lightning or something
I bet this silverado (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHhGSdAw4tI) could've beaten that.
ive seen a 50 trim SRT creamed by an s10.
s10 had a built LS-1
I've seen a Cougar creamed by a 1990 Beretta. Berretta was stock. :rofl: Oh wait that was my Cougar... :banghead:
its still not to late...
although its nice to see that a NA 3L cougar can hang with a srt4... makes me want to put in a 3L this instant.. :thumbsup:
Just a stock 3L is all it takes? :eek:
neon lover :gtfo:
Yes sir! :cool:
diddy
09-20-2006, 06:35 PM
Just a stock 3L is all it takes? :eek:
no, a 3L+ a big dreamer:rofl:
AndyMan
09-20-2006, 07:15 PM
Just a stock 3L is all it takes? :eek:
okay... how bout a 3L with bolt-ons... sound more realistic?...:biggrin: anything in particlar i am missing?
BlackBetty
09-20-2006, 07:36 PM
I've seen a Cougar creamed by a 1990 Beretta. Berretta was stock. :rofl: Oh wait that was my Cougar... :banghead:
noice... what did you have done to your cougar (assuming it was the V6)?
and that truck is nuts! it couldnt beat an SRT tho...it would eat one for lunch...but beat a corvette! haha
Theres a guy running an LS1 in town... he can switch it from a 4 banger to the ful 8...gets like 30MPG!! :eek: but has more balls then a ....well its just got balls :rofl:
okay... how bout a 3L with bolt-ons... sound more realistic?...:biggrin: anything in particlar i am missing?
Much better thanks! The only thing missing is it being in your car. ;)
noice... what did you have done to your cougar (assuming it was the V6)?
and that truck is nuts! it couldnt beat an SRT tho...it would eat one for lunch...but beat a corvette! haha
Theres a guy running an LS1 in town... he can switch it from a 4 banger to the ful 8...gets like 30MPG!! :eek: but has more balls then a ....well its just got balls :rofl:
My cougar still has gutted pre-cats, CAI, and Flowmaster catback. It's an ATX though...
I tought LS1's already got 28-30 highway MPG???
Frizzle86
09-21-2006, 06:40 PM
My cougar still
I tought LS1's already got 28-30 highway MPG???
depends on what its in. If its in a vette or f-body then yes. A truck? Not very areo dynamic and weighs a lot more so of course not.
BlackBetty
09-21-2006, 10:32 PM
thats insane for with the gas milage...and i think it was the ATX that killed ya..thoes things run low 16's stock, and a Cougar is high 15's low 16's (depending on the driver)