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cougarprophet

06-03-2006, 02:38 PM

good old canadian broadcasting...leaving out the things that may actually be news

then again the picture in the article has only one thing that is a danger...the gun
i see with my golden eye
1. gun
2. multi meter
3. soldering iron ( non wireless )
3. cellphone
4. a large cell of d batteries

now some of that could be used to make a bomb such as the cell phone and batteries but why they neded to include the soldering iron and the multi meter is just weird..."look look we just seized tools that many canadians should have in their toolbox"

hamill

06-03-2006, 02:41 PM

I haven't heard anything about it either....but in related news, the power went out last night at work and the variety store next door is suspected :disgust:

on a serious note though....I find it interesting that CNN has a complete story on it and there was nothing on the local news last night about it. I just checked the local news website and under the headline "In tomorrows newspaper get stanley cup updates" there was a story about it.

EternalOne

06-04-2006, 12:36 PM

Wow really? It's all over CNN, MSNBC, and Fox -- yesterday and today.

then again the picture in the article has only one thing that is a danger

It's the fact that they bought 3 tons of ammonium nitrate -- considering only 1 ton was used in Ok City -- that is quite a bit. :O

E1

Comando489

06-04-2006, 12:50 PM

"This group took steps to acquire three tons of ammonium nitrate and other components necessary to create explosive devices,"

hey-o

BigBalledOX

06-04-2006, 01:10 PM

"This group took steps to acquire three tons of ammonium nitrate and other components necessary to create explosive devices,"

hey-o

What the **** is the point of THAT post?

On another note, its good to see the Royal Canadian Mounted Yaksmen are doing there job. :thumbsup:

cougarprophet

06-04-2006, 04:48 PM

Wow really? It's all over CNN, MSNBC, and Fox -- yesterday and today.

It's the fact that they bought 3 tons of ammonium nitrate -- considering only 1 ton was used in Ok City -- that is quite a bit. :O

E1

that **** scares me, but all i was saying out of all the things they could show as proof ...the stuff in the pic was very unsignifagent...a pic of the ammoniun nitrate would have been more impressive u know

EternalOne

06-04-2006, 05:02 PM

Ahh, sorry I misread, lol... Yeah, they definately could have shown more on the web. With the CNN story I saw last nite they did show quite a bit more, including trucks and such -- I guess they were saying something about 3 targets, scary.

E1

cougarprophet

06-04-2006, 05:09 PM

my father use to work for ccis (sp) which is the canadian version of the cia or nia but dumbed down and an old collige (sp again lol) said that the reports of three targets were to just keep the true target ( yes singular) from being known

infact they were found when taking prelimanary observations of the target ( taking pictures)

my father was its national manager for its electrical data security as well as its physical security systems....so he knew who to listen too:tongue:

Tygerr

06-04-2006, 05:22 PM

then again the picture in the article has only one thing that is a danger...the gun
i see with my golden eye
1. gun
2. multi meter
3. soldering iron ( non wireless )
3. cellphone
4. a large cell of d batteries

now some of that could be used to make a bomb such as the cell phone and batteries but why they neded to include the soldering iron and the multi meter is just weird..."look look we just seized tools that many canadians should have in their toolbox"

Your golden eye is a bit skewed then. Obviously they'll need a trigger device, maybe they're going to build a circuit, such as a timer or what not to assist with the detonation.

99cougarred

06-04-2006, 05:25 PM

What are they gonna blow up in canada lol?Hockey staduims?Bankruptcy will do that without blowing anything up. Well the US has no interest as we already sold canada due to budget constraints. Are their buildings?Larger than just houses? Ive only seen pictures of northern US so i dont know.

Mike

06-04-2006, 05:38 PM

You guys are kidding me, right? This was all over the newspapers on saturday! How the hell did you miss it? :confused:

Mike

Mike

06-04-2006, 05:41 PM

99cougarred

06-04-2006, 05:52 PM

Never made the national news here. With all of the money and media exposure about terroism im suprised. Guess that possibly it wasnt us soil so the media didnt bother. Was it on canadian tv?

Mike

06-04-2006, 06:00 PM

Never made the national news here. With all of the money and media exposure about terroism im suprised. Guess that possibly it wasnt us soil so the media didnt bother. Was it on canadian tv?

Did you even look at the original post? It was on CNN.

Mike

cougarprophet

06-04-2006, 06:04 PM

Your golden eye is a bit skewed then. Obviously they'll need a trigger device, maybe they're going to build a circuit, such as a timer or what not to assist with the detonation.

look at post #8....

and im a electronics major in college so i know exactly the potentional of the stuff that was in the picture but out of all the stuff, they could have shown more impressive things....

99cougarred

06-04-2006, 06:10 PM

Ya i saw the part on CNN. I was referring to a break into normal news to talk about the supposed terrorist attack. There was no interruptions on national news or the evening news. I was suprised to even really hear that CNN only talked about it for a few minutes then moved on. Was there a supposed target?

cougarprophet

06-04-2006, 06:13 PM

^ look at post 10

MaverickFlyer

06-05-2006, 10:14 AM

I haven't had time to really read what happened but I did hear that there intended targets were Government targets not Civilian.

rastaman

06-05-2006, 10:19 AM

LETS GO TO WAR!!! :gitrdone:

MaverickFlyer

06-05-2006, 10:26 AM

Hmmm, Who should we attack???

MUSKOKN

06-05-2006, 10:54 AM

LETS GO TO WAR!!! :gitrdone:

Thats exactly what the US Administration wants from us.

LadyX

06-05-2006, 11:48 AM

pfshh...so NOT going to happen..what are we going to do? get them all drunk and watch them shoot themselves?

MaverickFlyer

06-05-2006, 11:56 AM

This will just push the Americans to put up more boarder security.

LadyX

06-05-2006, 12:33 PM

:rolleyes:

MUSKOKN

06-05-2006, 12:53 PM

This will just push the Americans to put up more boarder security.

Your a glass is half empty type of guy aren't ya? ;)

The way I see it...If Canada is seen to be cracking down on these freaks, then the Americans should be less fearful of them entering from Canada, and thus a little more lax at the border.

But I can definatey understand why you'd think that.

MUSKOKN

06-05-2006, 12:57 PM

LETS GO TO WAR!!! :gitrdone:

HAHAHAHA....Thats coming from some one who's avatar is Bob smokin a phat reef....Dude, you should be promoting peace.

How bout this?

We should all go to Afghanistan and Iraq and have sit-down peace rally's. :rofl:

rastaman

06-05-2006, 01:15 PM

HAHAHAHA....Thats coming from some one who's avatar is Bob smokin a phat reef....Dude, you should be promoting peace.

How bout this?

We should all go to Afghanistan and Iraq and have sit-down peace rally's. :rofl:

lol...i know, i was being facetious...i was just poking some fun at the expense of our american friends (plus i REALLY wanted to use the "git-R-done!" icon). i agree that the best solution is for everyone to take a toke from the peace pipe :) too bad we have all these anti-smoking laws eh? ;)

sonza68

06-05-2006, 01:36 PM

Your a glass is half empty type of guy aren't ya? ;)

The way I see it...If Canada is seen to be cracking down on these freaks, then the Americans should be less fearful of them entering from Canada, and thus a little more lax at the border.

But I can definatey understand why you'd think that.
The paranoids down here will see it as proof that terrorists are infiltrating Canada and want to lock down the border. Hopefully we don't follow through on that knee jerk reaction.

MaverickFlyer

06-05-2006, 02:00 PM

The paranoids down here will see it as proof that terrorists are infiltrating Canada and want to lock down the border. Hopefully we don't follow through on that knee jerk reaction.

That's exactly whats going to happen. I was watching one American reporter talking about being so close to a country that is full of Terrorists. :crazy:

MUSKOKN

06-05-2006, 02:26 PM

That's exactly whats going to happen. I was watching one American reporter talking about being so close to a country that is full of Terrorists. :crazy:

I think we better start arming ourselves...Were gonna get invaded again...MANNNNN...Do we really have to burn down the Whitehouse....AGAIN?

cougarprophet

06-05-2006, 02:39 PM

MANNNNN...Do we really have to burn down the Whitehouse....AGAIN?

no...but we will:evil:

awesome war of 1812 reference;)

sonza68

06-05-2006, 02:45 PM

I'd like to see you try.

sonza68

06-05-2006, 02:50 PM

I just saw the list of terrorists and noticed 6 of them were from Missiwhereeverthehellmayaisfrom.

MUSKOKN

06-05-2006, 02:59 PM

I'd like to see you try.

Thats exactly what you guys said the last time. ;)

Nigel: I went to Brock University. Sir Isaac Brock was the one who led the British at the Battle of Queenston Heights. Of course I'm gonna know that one...:rofl: Not to mention I minored in history.

They were talking about Mississippi ;)

Mississauga

sonza68

06-05-2006, 03:21 PM

Thats exactly what you guys said the last time. ;)
I barely acknowledge the area east of the mountains as part of the US, so I really wouldn't care too much.

MUSKOKN

06-05-2006, 03:44 PM

I barely acknowledge the area east of the mountains as part of the US, so I really wouldn't care too much.

Which mountains?

The Rockies or the Appalatian's?

Oh and another cute little history fact....The White House onyl got its name because of us too. It was only after we burnt the presidents house down, did it get rebuilt to the beautiful place it is today and painted 'white'. Before that it was some staunch ungly home. GO CANADA!!!

sonza68

06-05-2006, 03:58 PM

East of the Appalachians and west of the Rockies could fall into the ocean and not upset me.

sonza68

06-05-2006, 04:00 PM

Oh and another cute little history fact....The White House onyl got its name because of us too. It was only after we burnt the presidents house down, did it get rebuilt to the beautiful place it is today and painted 'white'. Before that it was some staunch ungly home. GO CANADA!!!
You forgot to mention that DC was originally a malaria ridden swamp when the capital was moved there. Not exactly a brilliant start.

MUSKOKN

06-05-2006, 04:42 PM

Never knew about that...I must say...You've had some intesting developers, who obviously like to do things the hard way; What you just said about DC, L.A. and San Fran were built on a fault line, and then New Orleans was built below sea level, on the coast. I'd like to know their rationale for each of those places.

Tygerr

06-05-2006, 05:44 PM

look at post #8....

and im a electronics major in college so i know exactly the potentional of the stuff that was in the picture but out of all the stuff, they could have shown more impressive things....

Good for you. I'll be graduated in the next two weeks with a bachelors in Electronics Engineering. Your point?

More impressive pictures? What are you looking for! That's all it takes to make a bomb, would you rather see the 3 tons of fertilizer? I don't wanna offend you but come on man.

Either way. It's good to see our ally helping fight terrorism, even though America gets most of the heat. Canada's a target as well being one of the top five Christian countries, or w/e they quoted in that article.

MaverickFlyer

06-05-2006, 07:44 PM

Don't be fooled, Canada is on the List. The US was hit, then Spain, Then England. It's only a matter of time until something happens here. Hopefully this bust will stop it or at least put it off.

Tygerr

06-05-2006, 07:55 PM

This will just push the Americans to put up more boarder security.

Ha ha. That's rather nieve. I think we're more interested in keeping the OTHER border secure. Like you said, Canada's just as much a target as America. The only thing you need to worry about is 19-20yr olds sneaking over to "legally" drink. ;)

MUSKOKN: When were all of those places established though? I'm not a history/geography buff but I'd assume people knew nothing about fault lines and the such back in that day. Maybe so... :shrug:

MUSKOKN

06-05-2006, 08:17 PM

I was just having some fun about the cities....Obviously they had little knowledge of fault lines back when they were emerging towns.

As far as Canada being a target...Look at the countries that have been targeted since 9/11...Only nations that allied with the U.S. to invade Iraq. So lets not jump the gun....The only reason there is ANY terrorist activity happening around here is because we are right next door to the States. Who ever is here in Canada, is simply organizing to attack the States. Now don't get me wrong...Any terrorist activity happening here should be routed out, and they should be hung as far as I'm concerned.

Canada has never practively sought out conflict. War does not drive our economy.

I'd like to know which article referred to us as a 'Christian Country". That sounds a lot like Right Wing Propoganda to make us a target against extremists, and draw us into war. While Canada did evolve from a Catholic/Anglican decendency, we now consider ourselves a multicultural society. We are not a country of any one faith!!!

We in Afghanistan kicking some A$$, what else does the world expect of us? We don't have a huge military and only have a population of 30 Million.

Tygerr

06-06-2006, 04:48 AM

That's ignorant. Terrorists aren't in Canada just so they can sneak into America, yes, Canada may be perceive as more "lovable". However, you're discarding these terrorists and their radical beliefs. These people busted were going to blow up Canadian landmarks, not American. Are you that in the dark to think America is of one faith? That's no excuse, this country was founded on opportunity and freedom to believe in whatever. America is extremely multi-cultural, we're a huge melting pot. You guys are more similar then you like to believe.

"Terrorists always try to target peaceful places because it's easier to hit a place where people don't think such things can happen," from here (http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-canada6jun06,1,247565.story?coll=la-headlines-world)

EVERYONE is in danger, not just America. More people need to realize this, do you really think IF America ever fell they'd stop there?

"no country should be smug enough to think it's immune."

"We are a target because of who we are and how we live, our society, our diversity and our values — values such as freedom, democracy and the rule of law," he said. "The values that make Canada great, values that Canadians cherish."

Sorry, I understand most Canadians view themselves completely opposite of America or better or w/e, but that holds no play in this topic. We're ALL in this together, like I stated. This should be a wake up call. I don't want to see any more suffering just like everyone else, but the only way to protect our freedom, values, lifestyle is to fight for it and defend it.

God bless.

michcougar

06-06-2006, 06:04 AM

Ha ha. That's rather nieve. I think we're more interested in keeping the OTHER border secure. Like you said, Canada's just as much a target as America. The only thing you need to worry about is 19-20yr olds sneaking over to "legally" drink. ;)

The u.s has already bumped up security at the canada-u.s border. Not as much as the mexico border but still, since the arrest's they have more questioning and screening.
These are homegrown terrorists, all canadian.

MUSKOKN

06-06-2006, 10:40 AM

That's ignorant. These people busted were going to blow up Canadian landmarks, not American.

EVERYONE is in danger, not just America. More people need to realize this, do you really think IF America ever fell they'd stop there?

We're ALL in this together, like I stated. This should be a wake up call. I don't want to see any more suffering just like everyone else, but the only way to protect our freedom, values, lifestyle is to fight for it and defend it.

God bless.

Are you quoting George Bush? I swear I've heard him say the exact same things.

Ignorant eh? Where's your proof that they were going to blow up something in Canada? The prime target in Canada is the CN Tower. That three tons of fertilizer was more then was used in Oklahoma....If you have ever had a look at the CN Tower, it wouldn't require that much to take it down. Don't be so ignorant to the fact that these extremists are really p/o'd with the US government, and that they are the prime target.

Would they stop after America? Probably not. Of course these extremists have to be routed out. But lets be honest here. The US caused this problem. The US foreign policy over the years has been very invasive. Past administrations have stuck their noses where it doesn't belong. They even funded Osama Bin Laden in the 80's, they funded the Taliban, they funded Iran. Why? Don't tell me they needed their help to fight the Soviets. They were on their way out at the end of the 70's. The only targets other than the US have been those who joined them in Iraq.

We are in this together because the US are our allies and our friends. We are not in this for support of your foreign policy. That why we never went to Iraq. You couldn't prove your case to the UN and we stayed with the UN. Our government was given a mandate to lead Canadians and look out for OUR interests. If not going into Iraq for and unjust cause prevents us from becoming targets, then so be it.

I 100% agree with you that all the suffering is tragic and it should end. However, I don't see our freedoms, values, and lifestyles in danger.

The only time this has become an issue, is when our freedoms, values, and lifestyles have been pushed on to other societies, that don't want anything to do with us.

You can't go spreading Americanism around the world...Besides wasn't the Truman Doctrine (enacted to fight the spread of Communism),all about allowing countries to determine their own path, and not having another nation force its way upon another. Sounds kind of hypocritical to me.

Live Long and Prosper!

EDIT: If Canada was a target...We would have been hit already....a long time ago too.

LadyX

06-06-2006, 10:52 AM

Ha ha. That's rather nieve. I think we're more interested in keeping the OTHER border secure. Like you said, Canada's just as much a target as America. The only thing you need to worry about is 19-20yr olds sneaking over to "legally" drink. ;)

The Windsor-Detroit border has been on "Hight Alert" since day before yesterday, "searching" every truck and vehicle entering the country. I'll see if I can find the article.
As for the other talk...personally...I don't think the targets were going to be Canadian. They said targets in Toronto and Ottawa..hmm...the two places in Ontario, where you can find these really fancy old buildings with the huge "American Embassy" signs on the front.

MUSKOKN

06-06-2006, 10:55 AM

They said targets in Toronto and Ottawa..hmm...the two places in Ontario, where you can find these really fancy old buildings with the huge "American Embassy" signs on the front.

Good Call Jenny!

MaverickFlyer

06-06-2006, 10:57 AM

MUSKOKN

06-06-2006, 11:17 AM

Okay, this is a thread about the Terrorist arrested in Canada not about American Policy. They clearly stated that these terrorist were intending on attacking Canadian targets not US. If you Remember Canada was on the list of Countries that Bin Laden said would be attack. Not because of Iraq, but because we went into Afghanistan. Don't be nieve and think Canada is safe from Terrorism, It's Not!

Never said we were safe...These people being here obviously proves that...All I said was that no one has proved yet that Canada was the intended target of these guys. Have anyone heard any such confession from them? I think one thing many of us are guilty of and we need to take a lesson from everything that has happened, is that we don't ask the question. Why?
Why are they here in Canada now? Why have they been organizing? Why did they attack on 9/11? Why did they strike in the early 90's? Why did they start? You start asking these questions and getting straight answers, then you can start coming up with smart solutions. Answering an attack with an attack just creates a cycle of destruction, that won't end.

wrt American policy, and this thread being about Canadian terrorists....fair enough. But everything that is going on stems from that!!! Thats why I brought it up...and quite honestly...the door was left open for it!!!

MaverickFlyer

06-06-2006, 11:54 AM

I'm not disagreeing with you, I just didn't want his to turn into a Canadian Vs. American thread.

Canada is against terrorism, that's why we went into Afghanistan. That's why we are a target. Is there more to it? Yes, But anyone who doesn't believe in killing Innocent people like they do will be a target.

LadyX

06-06-2006, 12:03 PM

....well, in that statement...you don't think innocent people are dying everyday in Afghanastan and Iraq? What makes us any better than them? It's like a crusade...we're trying to force our rules/way of life on them, and they're trying to do the same to us....so, that would make us equal in all of our collective stupidity.

MaverickFlyer

06-06-2006, 12:14 PM

So Jenny go live with the Taliban and see how you like it!

LadyX

06-06-2006, 12:39 PM

...well, according to US newspaper...don't all us Canadians hide them in our Garages and sheds??? come onn....

Tygerr

06-06-2006, 12:59 PM

MaverickFlyer

06-06-2006, 01:02 PM

Don't group all Canadians into one opinion!

Wow, Eric must be typing a huge response! :goofy:

MUSKOKN

06-06-2006, 01:18 PM

Actually, I cited my source. It was a female university student, meaning some Canadians have a bit more sense.

I give up man. You're not going to get the message through to your head, and that's sad. "Just blame America! It's all their fault! They're evil!" Sad, sad. You don't give America enough credit. I don't want anyone else getting hurt, but obviously it seems that the only way the Canadian people will learn is after getting hurt themselves.

I think your taking this way out of context now...I've never said "blame America" or "their evil"...Thats adolescent frustration right there. What I said was, America's foreign policy has been questionable in the past and it has created situations that have come back to bite...They certainly aren't the first the experience this...The Romans, Brits, French, Spanish, Dutch, have all gone through it man.

Canada did not go to War in Iraq cause we did not believe the war was just....and who was right by the way? Where are the WMD's...Sorry Mark..I'm off topic here, but now I'm just standing up for myself. Plus this isn't about Canada v. America...I never let a good debate get personal. Its just a debate and difference of opinion. I can't help it of some people don't like an opposing view.

Afghanistan? We are there in a peace keeping role. Not one country has ever started beef with us, cause they have never been provoked. You are right in saying that we are a target, cause we are involved now in Afghanistan....BUT...there has been no evidence that suggests these guys were targeting Canada...Its all speculation and theory...They still have to prove it too before a court....Remember one of our society's principle VALUES...Innocent until proven guilty in a court of law...No matter how much evidence there is...all speculation must be questioned until it is proven.

This is a bit of a whine here but maybe it needs to be said now...Why shoud we join in any war...evertime we have in the past we go stuck in the deepest crap and barely acknowledged for it....I tell ya one thing...If it wasn't for the Canadians in the Boer War, at Vimmy Ridge in WWI and Dieppe (The most heavily fortified beach front) in WWII, the world would be a different place today, if it wasn't for Canadians...But not many people know about that....do they? We get all the crap and the major powers take the glory.

Tygerr

06-06-2006, 01:43 PM

LadyX

06-06-2006, 03:07 PM

Everybody is right in some way. But, I, ME, PERSONALLY...I refuse to sit around and wait for the next target..no matter where it is. I can't be bothered to waste my time. The government of Canada, Britain, and USA are all looking for monsters. I won't live in fear, or worry, because THAT is what these people want. Mess up our daily lives, make us afraid...

On another note, those 17 people will NEVER tell the truth and expose what the "real target" was. Never.

MaverickFlyer

06-06-2006, 03:25 PM

No but through investigation you can find their intended targets. Comon, you watch CSI!

MUSKOKN

06-06-2006, 03:26 PM

Sorry for the grouping. I should know that all people in a country don't share the same views, hell, I'm one of them. My apology. :(

True true. Like said, Canada and America are allies and will be for long to see. However, this issue just shouldn't be brushed off. Maybe they are innocent. Point is the Canadian gov't should be taking this just as serious, and I believe they are. Just because your an adversary of America is enough to provoke these extremists. Just realize that. Not provoking is not enough, obviously we learned that in Pearl Harbor. W/e happened to Poland in WWII? They were neutral at the start and were taken advantage of and subject to mass executions by both Russians and Germans.

Canada does take this very seriously. If they didn't, these guys would not have been arrested, because we wouln't have been focusing on them.

I'm not sure what your trying to say about being an adversary of the US and it being enough/not enough to provoke.

I think the Russian and German thing is a bit of a stretch for comparison, and I don't really want to go down that road. Unless you provoke me. ;)
With regard to that though...Just remember the Treaty of Versailles, and its ramifications.

MUSKOKN

06-06-2006, 03:31 PM

On another note, those 17 people will NEVER tell the truth and expose what the "real target" was. Never.

Yea cause were too worried about protecting their rights instead of beating the information out of them. Sorry, but if one has that much disregard for innocent people's lives then they should not be treated with anything more.

These guys hold Canadian passports too. As far as I am concerned, they should be tried as treasonists, and IF CONVICTED, hung. I think the death penalty still applies in Canada for treason. Or send em up to Point Alert and let em chill out.

LadyX

06-06-2006, 03:39 PM

yup. the punishment for Treason is Public Hanging.

MUSKOKN

06-06-2006, 04:00 PM

yup. the punishment for Treason is Public Hanging.

Then try them for treason I say.

MaverickFlyer

06-06-2006, 04:01 PM

Yea cause were too worried about protecting their rights instead of beating the information out of them. Sorry, but if one has that much disregard for innocent people's lives then they should not be treated with anything more.

These guys hold Canadian passports too. As far as I am concerned, they should be tried as treasonists, and IF CONVICTED, hung. I think the death penalty still applies in Canada for treason. Or send em up to Point Alert and let em chill out.

Now that I agree with 100%! :thumbsup:

MUSKOKN

06-06-2006, 04:07 PM

Okay so it got a little intense in here...But it was a good debate!!! As long as its kept civil, which it was.

I think we can all agree that we all want peace.

And if a nation or group of people don't like another, leave em alone and don't bother with them.

No one should be imposing their ideology on another, and if it is happening tell em to get lost and mind their own business...But don't go blowing up innocent people.

rastaman

06-06-2006, 05:59 PM

actually, the death penalty no longer applies for treason either...i think they got rid of it in the 80s...

MUSKOKN

06-06-2006, 09:39 PM

actually, the death penalty no longer applies for treason either...i think they got rid of it in the 80s...

Then lets do the next best thing...ship em up to Point Alert and freeze their butts off.

Tygerr

06-07-2006, 12:02 AM

I think the Russian and German thing is a bit of a stretch for comparison, and I don't really want to go down that road. Unless you provoke me. ;)
With regard to that though...Just remember the Treaty of Versailles, and its ramifications.

:rofl: Ha ha. Awesome. Maybe a stretch, I dunno. You said Canada never provoked them, meaning that Canada was in the safe I assume? I should have worded it better. I'm just saying that being allies with America for some of these religous extremists would be enough for them to condemn you. No? :shrug:

Either way. Yes, you can say we never found WMD's. Whether the ramifications for going to war was just, or true. We're in it out now, and honestly so what if we didn't find nuclear weapons. We're attempting to make a better life for people, to break away from tyranny (hmm.. kinda like the Revolutionary War?) What if no one cared and there actually were nukes or what not. I dunno, I'm not the gov't. They know a lot more then they tell the people, so people are confused and find it unjust. I'll let them play politician as long as I can go about my daily activities freely and without fear. Ya know?

:grouphug:

rastaman

06-07-2006, 12:36 PM

Then lets do the next best thing...ship em up to Point Alert and freeze their butts off.

yeah, thats a good idea...let them sit out there on baffin island or something...they can keep eye on the melting ice glaciers and let us know when global warming is becoming a real problem :)

MUSKOKN

06-07-2006, 12:50 PM

yeah, thats a good idea...let them sit out there on baffin island or something...they can keep eye on the melting ice glaciers and let us know when global warming is becoming a real problem :)

You'd trust em to tell us? They'd prolly try and figure out a way to speed it up...Just to be spiteful!!!

MaverickFlyer

06-07-2006, 12:59 PM

You'd trust em to tell us? They'd prolly try and figure out a way to speed it up...Just to be spiteful!!!

Or drown us all! :(

MUSKOKN

06-07-2006, 01:36 PM

Or drown us all! :(

I'll be fine...I'm a good swimmer...Used to swim accross the bay and back at the cottage years back...Actually I want to do that again this year. Not just to the point at the islands either....the other side and back. :cool:

MaverickFlyer

06-07-2006, 02:39 PM

Try swimming from here to Alberta! :rofl:

LadyX

06-07-2006, 02:44 PM

:s that would take a while

MUSKOKN

06-07-2006, 03:01 PM

Try swimming from here to Alberta! :rofl:

I enjoy swimming...not torture! :rofl:

Maybe save somthing like that as punishment for those loser-terrorists.

rastaman

06-07-2006, 03:13 PM

I enjoy swimming...not torture! :rofl:

Maybe save somthing like that as punishment for those loser-terrorists.

remember that display at the ontario science center where you would pedal a bike and it would generate electricity and turn on the light bulbs? i think they should make all criminals pedal those things all day long in their cells to make electricity for us so we don't have to turn down our AC units to avoid blackouts :)

MaverickFlyer

06-07-2006, 04:10 PM

remember that display at the ontario science center where you would pedal a bike and it would generate electricity and turn on the light bulbs? i think they should make all criminals pedal those things all day long in their cells to make electricity for us so we don't have to turn down our AC units to avoid blackouts :)

That's perfect!

Except they will be in such great shape when they get out of jail the cops will never be able to catch them the next time. Have you seen the size of some of the cops around Toronto. :confused: