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master of profits
05-15-2006, 06:16 AM
when driving my car it cuts out at like 117-120. i discovered this is becasue of the "governor". is there a way to remove it so that the car can go faster? what are the pro's and con's of taking it out? is there sumthing you can do instead of taking it out? thanks....
Kaioshin
05-15-2006, 07:19 AM
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BigBalledOX
05-15-2006, 05:17 PM
when driving my car it cuts out at like 117-120. i discovered this is becasue of the "governor". is there a way to remove it so that the car can go faster? what are the pro's and con's of taking it out? is there sumthing you can do instead of taking it out? thanks....
. . .
And you feel the need to be able to travel in excess of 120 MPH . . . why, exactly?
Do you have the tires capable of handling those speeds? How are your brakes doing? You really think the crappy rear drum brakes on your non-sport Cougar are gonna be sufficient to stop the car from 140 MPH?
skull_heaven
05-15-2006, 07:26 PM
. . .
And you feel the need to be able to travel in excess of 120 MPH . . . why, exactly?
Do you have the tires capable of handling those speeds? How are your brakes doing? You really think the crappy rear drum brakes on your non-sport Cougar are gonna be sufficient to stop the car from 140 MPH?
BBO u always say the same thing and it's so true. it's not worth it. who cares about top speed. it just matters how quick your car is. IMO
XplosivePlushToy
05-15-2006, 09:46 PM
I care about top speed...
But then again, thats only when I'm on extremely long drives home and I just want that moment of pure adrenalin at 3 AM in BFE georgia.
I just want to see how fast she can go, just once.
BigBalledOX
05-16-2006, 03:21 AM
BBO u always say the same thing and it's so true. it's not worth it. who cares about top speed. it just matters how quick your car is. IMO
Look, I ain't gonna lie, I've had my car up near 150 one day, racing a Corvette on the interstate. I don't know exactly how fast I was going cuz I was focused on not dying a horrid death. But I digress.
There's almost nothing stock about my car. Tires, brakes, suspension, all of that has been vastly improved. Does that make it "ok" for me to drive as fast as I can and for him not to? Well, perhaps not "ok" but I'm certainly in a better position than someone with a bone-stock Cougar would be.
Tires are rated to handle certain speeds. Now, that doesn't mean one MPH over the posted speed rating of a given tire it's going to explode. But what if your tires are in piss-poor shape and one of them gives out at 140 MPH? Thats not gonna be pretty.
Braking distances increase substantially the faster you go. I've driven a stock, drum-equipped Cougar, and it felt VERY unsafe to me. I'm not saying the brake system isn't sufficient, but from someone who is a VERY aggressive driver and is used to substantially more "bite" when I brake, it was not a very comforting feeling.
And finally, what is the point? My car rarely sees north of 100 any more. Yeah, its fun to run it up that fast. But its not really worth the risk to yourself and to other people around you to drive that fast.
I have no problem with anyone topping out their car. I've done it in all the cars I've owned . . . well, I haven't truly topped out the Cougar, but I know it won't go any faster than 157 (thank you stock gearing!) and I've been in the 150 range, so thats good enough for me.
I just want people to consider everything possible, that there's more to it than just wanting to go Mach three with your hair on fire.
kustomcougar
05-16-2006, 04:03 PM
a govenor? i thought that was all worked into the ECU?
tr0nic
05-16-2006, 06:42 PM
It is... you need a chip to lift the limiter.
IH8CIVX
05-16-2006, 08:37 PM
what an idiot.... i hope you crash
skull_heaven
05-17-2006, 01:46 AM
what an idiot.... i hope you crash
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
shadowfox28
05-17-2006, 06:46 PM
lol What govenor? ive hit 130 and havent done a thing to my car except high performance tires, rims, and a big brake kit... perhaps your car just doesnt go that fast????
silverflash18
05-18-2006, 12:45 AM
I've heard it all depends on what type of cougar you have, i have heard that most of the special edition cougars dont have a governer on them but most of the stock ones do, and the stock ones cut out around 115 but there are people that know how to get around it but its not work the time or effort and most of all even if you do have a radar detector, you wont be able to slow down in time and you will be screwed.......not that i havent maxed out the cougar cause i have
LinkMan
05-18-2006, 09:38 AM
All Cougars are rev-limited. NON-sport packaged Cougars (15" wheels from the factory) are speed-limited to 115 or 120 MPH, due to the speed rating of the 15" tires they came with. Sport package Cougs (16" wheels from the factory) are not speed limited, they'll go to whatever your FWHP is able.
2FNFast
05-19-2006, 01:04 AM
my tires are rated at 150mph plus but doesnt mean im going to do that speed. Screw that I did 130mph and called it good...going that fast at night made me think twice. My tires are a ZR rated, got crossed drilled and slotted rotors, bigger pads and cap., sway bar, strut tower brace, eibach springs, but like that guys said if i was to have a blow out then its going to be FUGLY.
J2130K
05-19-2006, 07:58 AM
....what are the pro's and con's of taking it out?....
Cons: Possible Horrible Death
Pros: Ultra Cool Horrible Death...
99Elimin8r
05-23-2006, 03:51 AM
All Cougars are rev-limited. NON-sport packaged Cougars (15" wheels from the factory) are speed-limited to 115 or 120 MPH, due to the speed rating of the 15" tires they came with. Sport package Cougs (16" wheels from the factory) are not speed limited, they'll go to whatever your FWHP is able.
i find this info incorrect... Mine is a 99 mtx sport package and it cuts out (speed limiter) at 131 mph... from what I understand all of the cars are different, dependent on tire ratings/rim size, model/trim package, regardless my cougar has upgrades on the braking and suspension ends and 131 mph in this car is frieking ridiculous. Give it up, if you want to go that fast in a drum brake equipped coug, feel free, just make sure you where a crash helmet and your seat belt.:crazy:
LinkMan
05-23-2006, 11:18 AM
I find this info incorrect... Mine is a 99 mtx sport package and it cuts out (speed limiter) at 131 mph...
Then maybe you have an oddball Coug, or do you have added weight? or drag inducing body kit mods? If you want to base this on anecdotal evidence, I've seen more posts from people going faster than 131 MPH in V6 Sport Packages then your one post about not.
So I guess we disagree. :shrug:
Josh125XR
05-23-2006, 04:08 PM
Yea I have a base-model Zetec with drums & I've gone the top speed of 120mph. Yes it is a challenge to stop without losing control with stock braking, When I was young & dumb. Nothing special I really don't see the point of having to drive that fast anymore. It's much more fun trying to get the 1/4mi times under 16 flat for me.
MercCoug99
05-23-2006, 05:39 PM
you might infact find that the governor is put on your cougar for a reason. for your own personal saftey. if you want a higher top speed. just sell you "slow" one and buy a sport packaged cougar
grasshopperxr
06-11-2006, 09:44 PM
Is the XR Package the top sport package avail on the 02 Cougar? Dumb question I know just that some say the 35th Aniversary is.
IH8CIVX
06-12-2006, 12:40 AM
when driving my car it cuts out at like 117-120. i discovered this is becasue of the "governor". is there a way to remove it so that the car can go faster? what are the pro's and con's of taking it out? is there sumthing you can do instead of taking it out? thanks....
theres a reason it cuts out at 117-120... ill tell you why
pro- you die and we have one less newbie to bother us
con- i have to feel bad when you die.
instead of taking it out. buy another car and race on a licensed track. PLEASE stay off of the roads i travel.:gtfo:
ClaymoreWW
06-12-2006, 07:13 AM
Removing the Governor - and all other political discussions - belong in The Lounge. ;)
--george
Murdock
06-12-2006, 02:06 PM
I have not found a "speed limiter" on mine, just a lack of gear. I have topped mine out once, just to see what it could do...hit 138mph at 6800rpm in fifth gear. In other words, it was the fast as it would go...no more gear...no more revs
wadespencer99
06-12-2006, 02:09 PM
Removing the Governor - and all other political discussions - belong in The Lounge. ;)
--george
:rofl:
Something tells me that joke won't get the appreciation it deserves :)
BigBalledOX
06-15-2006, 09:04 PM
I have not found a "speed limiter" on mine, just a lack of gear. I have topped mine out once, just to see what it could do...hit 138mph at 6800rpm in fifth gear. In other words, it was the fast as it would go...no more gear...no more revs
. . .
Stock gearing runs out at 157 MPH. Your car did not run out of gear, it ran out of power. Put simply, your car no longer had sufficient power to overcome the drag incurred at 138 MPH.
I know this to be true because A.) Someone did the math on the gearing and B.) I've had the car north of 150, as previously stated.
Murdock
06-20-2006, 02:30 PM
. . .
Stock gearing runs out at 157 MPH. Your car did not run out of gear, it ran out of power. Put simply, your car no longer had sufficient power to overcome the drag incurred at 138 MPH.
I know this to be true because A.) Someone did the math on the gearing and B.) I've had the car north of 150, as previously stated.
I am sure thats all it had...it bounced off the limiter...unless the speedo is off, that was all it had
I guess I will just have to try again :)
StealthyWeasel
06-21-2006, 10:09 AM
. . .
Stock gearing runs out at 157 MPH. Your car did not run out of gear, it ran out of power. Put simply, your car no longer had sufficient power to overcome the drag incurred at 138 MPH.
I know this to be true because A.) Someone did the math on the gearing and B.) I've had the car north of 150, as previously stated.
north of 150? darwin is after you now
BigBalledOX
06-21-2006, 12:41 PM
north of 150? darwin is after you now
Thats ok, I'm pretty sure my invisible juice works against him too. ;)
sonza68
06-21-2006, 01:51 PM
I am sure thats all it had...it bounced off the limiter...unless the speedo is off, that was all it had
I guess I will just have to try again :)
The speedos are not accurate at those speeds.
Nighteagle006
06-24-2006, 11:10 AM
i've gotten my xr up to 137, ran out of room. if you need to go faster than that you just might have a death wish. too much s!@t can go wrong.
MobilBoy
06-24-2006, 12:15 PM
Cons: Possible Horrible Death
Pros: Ultra Cool Horrible Death...
Hahaha... that's funny sh*t!:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Seriously though, I've never even gotten my car up to 100mph never mind over that. I get nervous at those speeds and I value my life much more that I trust my tires, brakes, etc.
jaa55
06-24-2006, 02:42 PM
on the way to Ocean City on a longgg strech of I-70 we had mine up to 117 and it cut out. haha i never have any need to go that fast in that car again without better brakes........
Yofavcracka
06-24-2006, 02:47 PM
OMg there has been so many god damn posts about this.....
CORNBREADSQPAN
06-24-2006, 03:28 PM
My cougar has rear disk brakes and 16" factory rims, does that mean I have a sport package? or what I'm not really sure.
IH8CIVX
06-25-2006, 01:07 AM
i hear the cars in fast and furious removed their govenors... im gonna go remove mine now just so i can be cool too...
no seriously, those who remove the govenors so you can see how fast your car WILL go.... i hope the ****er blows the **** up and your stuck with a nice fat blown engine. And then when the insurance company asks whats wrong, you can explain "I was doing this sweet impression of Vince Diesel for my 3 friends that i tried to kill in the car with me". Theres a reason its on the car.... why do you feel the need to go faster then 120 mph...? Seriously, give a good reason.
Odds maby he has stock tires, if so stock tires are not made how they were in the old says when speed limits were 80, and ppl would go 100, so the companies made the tires take 120 pmh max breaking fine, today speeds are 55, and the tires were made to take about 80, go 140 + and have to slam on ur break, ur dead.
TrackCat
07-17-2006, 12:27 AM
I go to the track about 6 times in the summer and top speed can be reach real fast on a track. I find you need track time to better improve your driving then to worry about top speed. Go to the track and learn better car control, where it's legal. . Just ask yourself why? and think about if first. I hope when you do try reaching your top speed I hope nothing wrong happens thats all. I will not bash you and condem you to hell like the others just play it safe and hope nothing bad happens if you decide to take this route. If you want you can come with me and my friends to some SCCA events instead and race with us on a track if free I'm in Chicago.
P.S. On the fast and the furious the governors were not removed at all the cars were only allowed to go at 70mph only do to Legal restrictions. :confused: :confused: :confused:
chessie
07-19-2006, 09:26 PM
umm...i just have a quick question about this....
i have experoienced a car sutting out...but not my cougar
i was just wondering if my gov. had already been messed with prior to my ownership of the car.
i got it up to 138 just barely over a 1/4 mile, and it didn't cut out, but it just seemed like it didn't want to go any faster...
?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ????????????????????:confused:
BigBalledOX
07-19-2006, 09:31 PM
umm...i just have a quick question about this....
i have experoienced a car sutting out...but not my cougar
i was just wondering if my gov. had already been messed with prior to my ownership of the car.
i got it up to 138 just barely over a 1/4 mile, and it didn't cut out, but it just seemed like it didn't want to go any faster...
?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ????????????????????:confused:
. . .
Your car goes from zero to 138 in "barely over a 1/4 mile"?
seaneyo99
07-20-2006, 02:13 AM
umm...i just have a quick question about this....
i have experoienced a car sutting out...but not my cougar
i was just wondering if my gov. had already been messed with prior to my ownership of the car.
i got it up to 138 just barely over a 1/4 mile, and it didn't cut out, but it just seemed like it didn't want to go any faster...
?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ????????????????????:confused:
:bs: :bs: :bs: :bs: :bs: :bs: :bs: :bs: :bs: :bs: :bs: :bs:
i would love to know what motor that cougar has in it:crazy:
TrackCat
07-20-2006, 06:38 PM
I think hes running the noble m400 engine
chessie
07-22-2006, 10:09 PM
:bs: :bs: :bs: :bs: :bs: :bs: :bs: :bs: :bs: :bs: :bs: :bs:
i would love to know what motor that cougar has in it:crazy:
nah...no bs...seriously
from a dead stop to .03 miles by the car's odometer i was going 138 slightly uphill, and all i have is a bone-stock v6 (as far as I know) that is meaner than ANY stock v6 cougar that I have driven or raced.
not to mention that i have done this more than once....120 is NOTHING for my car in 4th gear...
so plz lemme know if u think that I have some sorta mods to it that are not visible to the naked eye...
TrackCat
07-24-2006, 07:24 PM
I'm sorry I was wrong hes running two of the engines from noble to hit the end of his speedometer in just .03miles thats not even a 1/4mile = .25mile. and his car weight is 200lbs.
No seriously examine what you just wrote slight up hill from 0 to 138 in less then a quarter mile????
BigBalledOX
07-24-2006, 10:14 PM
nah...no bs...seriously
from a dead stop to .03 miles by the car's odometer i was going 138 slightly uphill, and all i have is a bone-stock v6 (as far as I know) that is meaner than ANY stock v6 cougar that I have driven or raced.
not to mention that i have done this more than once....120 is NOTHING for my car in 4th gear...
so plz lemme know if u think that I have some sorta mods to it that are not visible to the naked eye...
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: Now you're down to three HUNDREDTHS of a mile? You're so full of **** I can smell you from here, skillet.
TrackCat
07-25-2006, 12:34 AM
someones been watching a little too much Fast and Furious
TrackCat
07-25-2006, 12:34 AM
someones been watching a little too much Fast and Furious
chessie
07-25-2006, 05:52 PM
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: Now you're down to three HUNDREDTHS of a mile? You're so full of **** I can smell you from here, skillet.
Well, actually, SORRY for the typo, but i meant .3 (as in 3 tenths) of a mile. And, YES, i said just OVER a 1/4 mile, and that would be correct, because I am not stupid and know that 1/4 is the same as .25, which our lovely cars do not measure...so i guesstimated between .2 and .3.
Furthermore, I am not full of anything, if u would like for me to prove it to you, find someone in the KyTn section that can meet me, and they can ride with me, or I will show them. I however DO NOT appreciate your smart*** comment just because I made a common mistake and didn't pay atttention to the message before I sent it. Who do you think that you are to chastise me like that?
shadowfox28
07-28-2006, 12:08 PM
Badass on the loose evreyone beware..... a stock v6 wont even hit 90 in the quarter mile. Either you can't percieve distance or your speedometer is broken... please think before you post, A blown big block can barely do what your talking about.
shadowfox28
07-28-2006, 12:17 PM
Well, actually, SORRY for the typo, but i meant .3 (as in 3 tenths) of a mile. And, YES, i said just OVER a 1/4 mile, and that would be correct, because I am not stupid and know that 1/4 is the same as .25, which our lovely cars do not measure...so i guesstimated between .2 and .3.
Furthermore, I am not full of anything, if u would like for me to prove it to you, find someone in the KyTn section that can meet me, and they can ride with me, or I will show them. I however DO NOT appreciate your smart*** comment just because I made a common mistake and didn't pay atttention to the message before I sent it. Who do you think that you are to chastise me like that?
Do not post:bs: and expect not to get flamed.. :kick: