View Full Version : Is there a "stickable" thread here for turboing?
scrupul0us
02-13-2006, 03:21 PM
I just happened to be browsing the forum and wondered "what would i have todo to turbo my cougar?... there must be a stickie" and in fact there isnt
can anyone maybe come up with a thread that gives the basic guidelines and steps one would have to consider and follow to turbo their car...
i.e.
if your going to push "X" boost you will have to upgrade a,b,c,d on your engine and do e,f,g,h to accommodate things
the only thing i KNOW "id" have todo is relocate the battery.. beyond that i'd be lost and among the many who question about turbo setups
just a thought since im curious about turboing my car at somepoint
Instigator
02-13-2006, 10:49 PM
buy an ADC turbo kit? :shrug:
Clutch
02-13-2006, 11:38 PM
Weld your turbo to your exhaust manifold. Run a pipe back to MAF. Done.
ilovemycar
02-13-2006, 11:55 PM
In all seriousness there shouldn't be a "sticky" or "how-to" do a turbo on a cougar/contour...not really. If you don't know all of the basic stuff that comprises a turbo kit, then you are definitely not going to be able to do it yourself unless you do some serious reasearch and learning...more research and learning than you could do on this board or any other one board for that matter.
Not trying to be "mean" or anything but it's the truth.
Nafunu32
02-14-2006, 02:02 AM
A sticky of how a turbo works, faq, and things like that would be awesome. Something along the lines of the nitrous faq.
Instigator
02-14-2006, 09:23 AM
A sticky of how a turbo works, faq, and things like that would be awesome. Something along the lines of the nitrous faq.
www.howstuffworks.com
look up turbos/superchargers....
the have engines and transmission stuff too. i suggest everyone checks it out
Nafunu32
02-14-2006, 10:30 AM
Alright, thanks man.
TrackCat
02-14-2006, 11:56 PM
Also I would buy a book like How to install and create a turbocharger
Instigator
02-15-2006, 12:54 AM
"create" a turbocharger? :confused:
install? thats easy, attach turbocharger to exhaust manifold using the appropriate bolts :shrug:
scrupul0us
02-21-2006, 07:52 AM
A sticky of how a turbo works, faq, and things like that would be awesome. Something along the lines of the nitrous faq.
Agreed
In all seriousness there shouldn't be a "sticky" or "how-to" do a turbo on a cougar/contour...not really. If you don't know all of the basic stuff that comprises a turbo kit, then you are definitely not going to be able to do it yourself unless you do some serious reasearch and learning...more research and learning than you could do on this board or any other one board for that matter.
Not trying to be "mean" or anything but it's the truth.
So taking the knowledge from members who have already gone through everything cant count as research?
"Not to be mean" but the same could apply to N2O, but theres still a stickie for it
I checked out the turbo kits at ADC and all i see if a bunch of question marks next to each item... that doesnt tell me anything other than im gunna spend 5,500 or 6,000 for a bunch of question marks... doesnt say what it comes with or anything... hence why a stickie would be nice
First you decide what you want to push, then you consider these kits, in addition you might need "x", expect to pay "x" to have it installed OR you'll need "x" to install it yourself
I dont think thats beyond the abilites of anyone in this forum
And saying I have to fully understand something before I'm "allowed" to have it is just nonsense and cite that as a reason to not have a stickie is just lazy
Instigator
02-21-2006, 09:43 AM
i honestly have no idea how i built my own sh*t without any of these stickies and stuff people ask for. i researched everything from reading forums and messages on here and CEG as well as tons of other places.
search posts by me. NOT ONCE did i ever ask "how much power can i make with a 3L and '___' turbo?" i never asked that.
Why? because from reading and researching other places. i learned that certain turbos make certain power for the amount of air they flow. and what sizes of engines can give enough energy to make that turbo system as efficient as possible.
but enough of me venting, here's what im gonna do.
since i had to take everything apart AGAIN because i had to replace the TOB, when i put everythign back to gether im going to take step by step pictures of my turbo instalation. i will try to make it clear with numbered steps and everything.
but what i dont understand is how you guys cant type in "turbo" to google and read the first pges and see how much stuff there is to learn. and the turbo isnt at all comlicated. its the design thats a little hard. but with reading and a little time everything will become clear.
about 18 months ago i couldnt tell you what a turbo looked like. i just thought FMIC's were really cool looking and i wanted one. So i read and read and read and here i am now. I STILL dont know half the stuff i should. I can barely read a compressor map still.
please excuse my anger. im not all that competent but i managed to go from no knowledge to some knowledge now, and i didnt have these so called "stickies."
It's kinda like i'm the one in the group project who does most of the work but the whole group gets credit.......know what i'm sayin :tongue:
but hold your horses, maybe this weekedn ill have my problem worked out and when i put everything back together ill make up a "turbo" how-to i guess.
scrupul0us
02-21-2006, 10:39 AM
while your efforts are appreciate im not looking to have a turbo history report and installation guide thrown in my lap
all i'm simply looking for is the mean by which to decide what direction togo and the basic things ill have to consider
from there I can figure out how exactly a turbo works, spooling, oil lines, mount points, BOV, PSI ratings, IC, turbo timers etc... thats all relative to the kit you are installing and the options you are looking for
I guess what I'm looking to find it out is:
1)whether or not a turbo is simply a "bolt on" in the loosest meaning of the term?
2)does the addition of a turbo mean having to upgrade engine internals?
3)if i bought an ADC turbo kit does it come with EVERYTHING i'll need?
4)what kind of labor is involved aside from relocation of the battery, moving of the fusebox and the welding (IIRC) of the turbo to the UIM (IIRC), if any?
5)if well prepared, is it something your could do install in a day?
These are what I'd call the basic considerations that could be in a Stickie FAQ... while it does no delve into all the dark corners of boost performace, and turbo specifics it will answer the preliminary questions that im sure many nwe comers to this thread might/may/will have.
pgtatx
02-21-2006, 12:40 PM
well first things first...
I'd recomend you just check out howstuffworks.com if you haven't already. It shows how a turbo works, and really explains it in laymans terms. Then do a generic search on certain parts involved with a turbo.
If a sticky was available, it would probably just contain a few links, as there is much data and info already available and correctly presented all over the internet.
The only things I personally feel "may" help, and most has already been covered, is the kit specific info for the ADC kit... Like problems, install procedures and pictures, tuning, etc...
I know Dan G did a whole pictorial on his 3L turbo install... and posted all the problems he had. So that would be a huge help.
If anyone really wants a sticky... I'll search out some Links, and anyone else who wants to find some links to reputable sites or posts here and on other boards... that could be a start...
My first 2 links is www.google.com and www.howstuffworks.com
I have a few other links bookmarked at home...I can get them later...
To note... if you (scrupulous) have an specific questions about turbocharging, pm members with simple questions and I bet many would be willing to answer some or point you in the right direction. I know most people work (as I'm sitting at work now), so typing out huge responses (like this one) are not easy to do... so keep it simple.
I recommend you check out other car's message boards like the Supra, Evo/DSM, WRX, etc message boards. Many of them have great stickies. Some may be car specific, but the physics is all the same.
Instigator
02-21-2006, 07:15 PM
what he said. ^^^
like i said before dont take my posts the wrong way. i am here to offer my learned knowledge and anyone can PM me with a question and i will do my best to answer it for you
scrupul0us
02-21-2006, 07:46 PM
:thumbsup: