View Full Version : Anyone here messed with a SRT-4 ???
AndyMan
02-01-2006, 04:56 PM
I was at a light today and a Dodge Neon SRT-4 pulls up with his loud music. I guess i didn't need an inventaion to know what he was going to do next... well, we take off and we are even until i put it in 3rd.... and he just flies away... i didn't think i did that bad.. or maybe i did. I don't really know. But i kinda feel like if i had my shifting down pac.. i maybe should have kept up with him.. maybe.. What do u guys think?
BigBalledOX
02-01-2006, 04:57 PM
Ummm . . . no. I dunno what you have done to your Cougar, but unless you're hiding big, BIG things, I guarantee you didnt hang with an SRT-4 that was making any kind of effort.
AndyMan
02-01-2006, 05:01 PM
not MAJOR things... i got just the simple bolts ons... Intake, SVT UIM, SVT throttle,.. Headers,.. catback, ... lightweight flywheel, stage 1 spec clutch,... oh, and UNDX crank pulley... i haven't messed with my internals...
come to think about it.. i guess it is alot what i have done then... :)
BigBalledOX
02-01-2006, 05:15 PM
Yeah dude, those things are severaly underrated, they're dynoing something like 220+ FWHP. My guess is he hit third and THATS when he dropped the hammer on ya. :shrug: I dunno.
james99
02-01-2006, 05:17 PM
my friend tried to race a srt-4 in his prelude w/ exhaust and intake. i got out and stood on the sidewalk until he was done getting his ass kicked and came back to pick me up.
Logan Motorsports
02-01-2006, 05:17 PM
Yea, but Ryan will eat that for lunch and spit civics out of his tailpipe soon enough....:)
BigBalledOX
02-01-2006, 05:25 PM
Yea, but Ryan will eat that for lunch and spit civics out of his tailpipe soon enough....:)
:biggrin: Thats the plan. BTW, you and Keith are gonna have some serious work on your hands come the 17th. I'm switching to 3L PnP heads, plus the Mustang TB and MAF, the new CAI, I may have the extrude honed UIM by then, the nitrous, plus our dirty little secret . . . :evil:
GrandMasterKhan
02-01-2006, 06:53 PM
Yes an SRT-4 is a very powerful car. They are light as well.
I would say he didnt even have traction until 3rd.
I raced one from a 3rd gear roll. I wasnt trying AS hard as i could have because i knew it would be a loosing battle. But he only pulled on me a car and half. The SRT had a mod or 2 as well. Not exactly sure what.
But once again my cougar isnt a rull of the mill 2.5L
Hardrive
02-01-2006, 07:37 PM
Yes an SRT-4 is a very powerful car. They are light as well.
I would say he didnt even have traction until 3rd.
I raced one from a 3rd gear roll. I wasnt trying AS hard as i could have because i knew it would be a loosing battle. But he only pulled on me a car and half. The SRT had a mod or 2 as well. Not exactly sure what.
But once again my cougar isnt a rull of the mill 2.5L
Engine is under rated for use in the Neon..
bigb9582
02-01-2006, 08:02 PM
yeah i raced my buddys srt and i had him by a 1/2 car lenth through 2nd gear until he finaly got traction and blew buy like i was standing still. quick as hell for a neon.
AndyMan
02-01-2006, 08:47 PM
so what do those things average in the 1/4 mile? .. plus i hear those put MORE HP to the wheels then at crank...how is that even possible??
StealthyWeasel
02-01-2006, 08:51 PM
no its just the factory crank figures are underrated
Nafunu32
02-01-2006, 09:28 PM
3rd gear is when the turbo spools. My roommate tried racing him in his stock gt... the srt had about $2000 worth of engine work though. They were close until 3rd gear and it was gone. (car had traction in all gears)
KingCougar
02-01-2006, 09:36 PM
SRT4's are not light......my 04 weighs 2980 lbs...my 99 cougar weighs what 2900+?.....The Cougar's best run in the 1/8 mile is 9.9, the SRT has run a best of 8.5 with #1 and #2 plug wires shorted causing a major misfire.....So NO, they are not even close
StealthyWeasel
02-01-2006, 10:02 PM
sure a stock cougar isn't close
VaNc3y
02-01-2006, 10:10 PM
the srt maybe underrated, but still is slow.. i raced one in my 99 eclipse gsx and i kicked his ass all over god's green earth.. coulda been my awd traction launch? but my eclipse had massive boost creep and i still owned him.. my eclipse was pretty much stock aside from an upgraded boost controller and bov and short shifter.. stock turbo tho runnin at 12psi.. it was pretty embarassing for him cuz he was with his lady friend.. to make a long story short tho, he had srt badges on his sxt if you were close to him in your cougar.. the 2.5 cougar with no kind of boost or nitrous i don't think can produce nearly enuff to keep you along side him.. unless it was his daddy's car and his first day in a manual..
AndyMan
02-01-2006, 10:19 PM
wait.. there's a "sxt" ??... anywho, i am not saying i was really hanging with him, i kinda got the impression that he somewhat trying. Yeah i proudly lost to him, when he put it in 3rd it was likea rocket just took off.... put i am not running a stock cougar either. I did my fair of mods what i could do for the time being of only having the cougar for 3 months...
whats an sxt anyway??
VaNc3y
02-01-2006, 10:29 PM
the neon sxt..or whatever it's calls sxr or whatever who cares big pile of dung anyways that was just a sarcastic remark.. obviously you wouln'dt get pulled on by a neon..
to make long story short.. if he was a good driver and driving to the best of his ability, as you, and you say you kept up with him.. i'm gonna have to raise the flag :bs: unless like was said in previous replies and he was just burning em up thru two gears
AndyMan
02-01-2006, 10:43 PM
... i think its funny when all motor cougars (2.5) ALL MOTOR can run very low 14's...( without n2o or boost) now am i there yet???... no... but i am getting there i would like to think...
StealthyWeasel
02-01-2006, 11:00 PM
I think the lines of all motor would be more agressive cams (not SVT, properly tuned high stage cams), bore and stroke, pnp 2.5 heads, etc. GMK is by far the most creative with dicking with the engine but theres alot more that COULD be done to the 2.5 but it would sacrifice driveability.
CougarKid2004
02-02-2006, 12:10 AM
My buddies 95 GST got Owned hardcore from a red light, was not even close...
Mtang4life
02-02-2006, 04:49 AM
I was running my bone stock '05 SRT at cougarfest 05. As far as cougars, Only DanG was running basically the same time (he was having problems, would definatly been faster). Running any other car, it was like looking at a parked car in the rear view. A good driver in an SRT-4 can put down a 13.9 with just over 100 mph trap speeds stock. They are REALLY hard to launch though. FWD and high horsepower arent the best combination.
A cougar running an SRT-4 at a strip is like watching a sprinter and a little old lady race.
This is not to rip on cougars, and call them crap, (still one of the best cars I have owned) but lets be realistic. they werent fast stock, arent fast modded, and only become fairly quick with a FI setup.
Man, some of you guys are kinda ripping on "neons" even though you own a girls car :tongue:
MagicHallucinations
02-02-2006, 09:20 AM
3rd gear is when the turbo spools. My roommate tried racing him in his stock gt... the srt had about $2000 worth of engine work though. They were close until 3rd gear and it was gone. (car had traction in all gears)
3rd gear the turbo spools.......your an idiot:rofl: 2k in the car i'll bet my own car he was spinning.....
M
Nemesis
02-02-2006, 09:25 AM
3rd gear is when the turbo spools. My roommate tried racing him in his stock gt... the srt had about $2000 worth of engine work though. They were close until 3rd gear and it was gone. (car had traction in all gears)
3rd gear is when the turbo spools.................... :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
InnovaZero
02-02-2006, 10:57 AM
they werent fast stock, arent fast modded, and only become fairly quick with a FI setup.
Stock true, they aren't quick.
Modded they are fast, and you don't need FI to do it, just cheaper that way. 3L drop + head work and your in the 14's.
Cougars to me are faster up top then they are down lower, a lot of cars that rape me off the line, I end up giving them more trouble when we are in top gear.
diddy
02-02-2006, 01:09 PM
Stock true, they aren't quick.
Modded they are fast, and you don't need FI to do it, just cheaper that way. 3L drop + head work and your in the 14's.
eh. 14's aren't really all that impressive though. it's still quick, but not something that I would:bowdown: to. hell, with intake and exhuast I could be in the 14's. lol
Nafunu32
02-02-2006, 01:11 PM
Hey, i dont own the neon... the guy that we raced is who told me that. I know nothing of turbos. He had perfect traction the whole race and shot off in 3rd. I asked him, and thats what he said.
diddy
02-02-2006, 01:17 PM
well then he is a complete idiot, sucks at driving, and has no idea what is going on at all. if he had traction, he woulda blown the doors off of you.
Mtang4life
02-02-2006, 07:34 PM
Stock true, they aren't quick.
Modded they are fast, and you don't need FI to do it, just cheaper that way. 3L drop + head work and your in the 14's.
14's are slow
To my definition "fast" starts in the 12's, 13's are quick EVO's, SRT-4 (just bairly makes it), cobras, STi, SRT-8. thats quick. Z06, Viper, etc? fast
This all gets thrown out the window when you start talking about road course lap times though. The little 190 hp Elise? Fast with a good driver. Cougar? still slow maybe quick at best
StealthyWeasel
02-02-2006, 07:37 PM
I really don't see how a na 3L 220whp is slow
Whiskey
02-02-2006, 08:09 PM
nope i wil never mess with a srt4
bubby
02-02-2006, 08:09 PM
They're talking about cougars, not 3L's...
StealthyWeasel
02-02-2006, 08:10 PM
most 3L's can run low 14's.. which mtang said was slow but I dont really see that..
diddy
02-02-2006, 08:35 PM
most 3L's can run low 14's.. which mtang said was slow but I dont really see that..
fast for cougars...yes.....fast for other cars.....no. go hang out with mustang guys, supra guys, etc etc, and tell them you run 14 seconds and see if they are impressed
bensenvill
02-02-2006, 08:59 PM
I was running my bone stock '05 SRT at cougarfest 05. Running any other car, it was like looking at a parked car in the rear view.
A cougar running an SRT-4 at a strip is like watching a sprinter and a little old lady race.
This is not to rip on cougars, and call them crap, (still one of the best cars I have owned) but lets be realistic. they werent fast stock, arent fast modded, and only become fairly quick with a FI setup.
I feel like that was squarely aimed at me. The only thing I beat you on was R/T
VaNc3y
02-02-2006, 10:45 PM
My buddies 95 GST got Owned hardcore from a red light, was not even close...
gst = fwd turbo..
gsx = awd turbo.. HUGE difference.. i owned gst's hardcore also..
GrandMasterKhan
02-02-2006, 11:38 PM
If your going to compare cars you have to compare them in their own respective classes.
For a FWD sport compact the SRT4 is Fast.
Compare an SRT4 to a Corvette and you have the SRT outclassed.
Compare the Corvette to a Ferrari and once again your outclassed.
The cougar can do very well in its respective class. I for example was only .2 seconds behind Mtang4life's SRT4 at the drag strip. In fact BOTH the SRT4's i have seen drag in person ran no better than a 14.5....Vs my 14.7 @ the same track. My car is by no means fast, but with a 3.0 swap I can assure you it will be running 13s.
And you want to compare something else? lets talk AutoX. I specifically recall a mostly stock ATX cougar beating Mtang4life's autoX package special SRT4. :shrug:
For a fwd car that is pretty good, and i'll be pleased. Though I rarely drag race i'll be doing most of my battles on the highway where traction wont be a problem. But honestly I dont care, since I'll be a very strong competitor in AutoX.
gyger
02-03-2006, 01:51 AM
... i think its funny when all motor cougars (2.5) ALL MOTOR can run very low 14's...( without n2o or boost) now am i there yet???... no... but i am getting there i would like to think...
I just had to ask......who on this site has run a low 14 or even 14.5 all motor
with a 2.5L? I don't know of one person. GMK got to a 14.7 with a stripped
down car (Correct me if I'm wrong Ken). But he's the only person I know of
with a 2.5L without F/I that has run anywhere below 14.9 in the 1/4 mile.
XplosivePlushToy
02-03-2006, 03:34 AM
Compare the Corvette to a Ferrari and once again your outclassed.
Not necessarily...
InnovaZero
02-03-2006, 04:13 AM
GMK, have you done head work yet? I guarentee you'll see impressive results.
Lets be real here, 14's is faster then 80-85% of the cars on the road. Thats with an N/A 3L..., no F/I. The cougar is a well rounded $17,000 dollar car. Out of that list that was given of $30,000-$100,000 cars, only the SRT-4 was close at $20,000 and in it's own right a damn good fwd drag car to start out with.
XplosivePlushToy
02-03-2006, 04:26 AM
Just thought I'd mention, my buddy back home happens to have an SRT that runs a 13.3. Thats with minimal mods. Ive seen the timeslip as well.
theandysho
02-03-2006, 01:47 PM
OK, OK, I'll settle this:
I've driven both a SXT and an SRT-4. They aren't even close.
The SXT is just a badge, fancy wheels, a spoiler and a few odds-n-ends. :rofl:
And since we all know what an SRT is, nuff said. :evil:
The turbo in the SRT is unreal. THERE IS NO WAY IN FROZEN HELL his turbo only spools in third gear, that guy should have his manhood license revoked for six months. :crazy:
Also there are very fast examples of every kind of car, Eclipse, Cobalt, Mustang, Corvette, etc. Everything is outclassed by something. You just have to stay in your area of expertise. If you go against a Cobalt LT, fine. But an SS will wipe the floor with you unless you have serious work done like some guys on here. That's like saying with Corvettes; you may own one, but a Z06 will roll past and humiliate your sorry ass. Logic must be used when picking targets. Predators don't go for the tough guy prey, they pick on the weak ones. You have to do the same, without being targeted. Don't let your ego get the best of you, or it'll get smashed.
:rolleyes:
Oh yeah, and keep it on the track too.
-A-
Mtang4life
02-03-2006, 01:48 PM
Your correct Kenny, I did get beat badly at Auto-X Keep in mind I had the car for maybe a few months at that point and that was the first time I had pushed the car. I had little idea how it would react or drive. The tight track also made it very difficult to put any kind of power down. In the end I got beat by more experienced (My pride wont let me say "better") drivers, who were familiar with their cars. Also, how many susp. mods did you guys have? although it is the "competition" model, the ACR still has the factory soft springs, but nice adj struts, POSITIVE front camber, ricer tires (sticky, but slippery as all hell when heated and soft ass sidewalls), while I was running cars on what, coilovers, healthy amount of negative camber, R-compound tires....
My times at the drag were also way off of what a good SRT driver can pull. I was almost half a second off of the "ideal" time. Trap speeds were there but my launch was absolutely terrible.
SRT-4s put down 230 Hp, and what, 240 ft/lbs of torque to the wheels stock with better gearing. 3.0L or not, the cougar is outclassed. Which was I believe the point to this thread.
In the end though your typical SRT-4 driver is a tool. Go read their boards for a while, and you will see what I mean. When I got rid of the ACR, I was quite happy to never go to their forums again.
bensenvill
02-03-2006, 02:04 PM
In the end though your typical SRT-4 driver is a tool. Go read their boards for a while, and you will see what I mean. When I got rid of the ACR, I was quite happy to never go to their forums again.
but yet you keep coming back hear, car after car.
BigBalledOX
02-03-2006, 06:36 PM
but yet you keep coming back hear, car after car.
Thats because he can't resist the gravitational field of my namesake. ;)
GrandMasterKhan
02-03-2006, 08:43 PM
i know your situation with the Srt4 man. Just had to pull an example. No harm/insult intended. By the way nice choice on a new car :thumbsup:
I felt that the cougarfest track is a realitively slow track. I couldnt manage better than a 2.29. 60ft. I feel my cougar still had at least 2 more tenths i could have squeezed out of her had i tried some more.
A built 3.0 cougar/contour has been proven to put down similar hp as an SRT4, and have run similar times. (of course your comparing stock to a built v6, but where also talking tubro vs n/a)
What good is alot of power if you cant use it? Low 1/4 ETs and cars which are Fast in the 1/4 dont impress me nearly as much as car which can whoop tail in autox or on a road course. I'd LOVE to see an SRT4 or even a Corvette try and keep up with me on the Tail of the Dragon (us-129)
Example: "Which is faster: Lamborghini Mercialgo or Gallardo?"
Most say the Merciaglo, because it has more power and will out accelerate the Gallardo in a straight line.
But a Lambo Factory Test driver replys without hesitation: "The Gallardo, because its lighter and is faster on a road course"
Nafunu32
02-04-2006, 10:59 PM
I'm starting to think that this guy didn't understand my question. The guy knows how to drive. His car has a lot of mods, not sure how many to be exact. He said they were all free but the guy he was with said it was about 3k or 5k worth. Cant remember which he said. His uncle owns a dyno shop about 2 hours from here and has been tuned and had the works. It's probably one of the fastest non-v8 cars around here.
TrackCat
02-05-2006, 03:06 PM
SRT-4 is a fast car?? Yes. But it's still a "NEON" with a horrible interior a shift knob from a door and built quality of Chrysler. And the exterior is well still the same since like 1992?? or earlier. I see way to many pimples on the drivers faces to boot.
Clutch
02-05-2006, 03:19 PM
they got the turbo right. Chrysler has been doing those with more consistancy through time than any other american car company i know.
SRT-4 is a fast car?? Yes. But it's still a "NEON" with a horrible interior a shift knob from a door and built quality of Chrysler. And the exterior is well still the same since like 1992?? or earlier. I see way to many pimples on the drivers faces to boot.
...
StealthyWeasel
02-05-2006, 04:08 PM
looks GREAT man, no way ANYONE could deny it. Keeping the cougar and getting that nice car is justice at its finest.
Thanks,I love both of them, and it just pisses me off when people disrespect something just because its not theirs. I can respect any car if someone puts a lot of time, money, and effort into it. But thats just me.
diddy
02-05-2006, 04:24 PM
Thanks,I love both of them, and it just pisses me off when people disrespect something just because its not theirs. I can respect any car if someone puts a lot of time, money, and effort into it. But thats just me.
it's called penis envy:rofl:
StealthyWeasel
02-05-2006, 04:25 PM
sigmund FRAUD!
How much did you pay for your srt4 man?
it's called penis envy:rofl:
I guess so, but since I'm older than I was when I first started messing with cars, I dont think that way at all. A Geo storm with a 383 stroker that runs 10's gets an aplause from me anyday! LOL, (true story).
sigmund FRAUD!
How much did you pay for your srt4 man?
20K with a 3K hit on my trade in (no more GM's for me), so 23K.
Nafunu32
02-05-2006, 11:24 PM
The SRT-4 that is around my area cannot even get a race anymore. He runs a 12.9 with only about 2.5k worth of mods. Not bad...
TrackCat
02-05-2006, 11:35 PM
[QUOTE=Hytu]Try again. :rolleyes: Oh and my car has none of your bullsh1t qualities you just named off. I just shows that you have never been in, drove or even stood by a SRT before. And the pimple comment, just shows your jealousy. Think before spouting off dumbass comments. As for the girls car.... My wife drives the Cougar...
Actually I have driven them before like I said fast yes looks no. About the pimples comment. around here in Chicago I always seen a teenager drive one. I never speak about something til I know a little something about the subject. Like owning about three Dodges and being in a Dodge only group. By saying I don't know anything and that I'm jealous shows who makes dumbass comments. If you like your car then you don't need to defend yourself. :drama: So yes I like your car but I wouldn't own one thats all.
s.wilson
02-06-2006, 12:00 AM
Okay, well if some of you are so confident that you could outrun non-turbo neons with your 15 second Cougars, then I need you to explain why. For a couple of years, I owned a 1997 Neon DOHC with bolt ons that ran mid 14's all day long no problem. Like someone pointed out on here, there are only a couple of n/a cougars that can make the same claim. Even a friend of mine with only a cold air intake and cat-back exhaust ran a 14.9 with a DOHC neon 5spd. I just don't really like some of the uneducated comments on here from people.
Also, good friend of mine has an SRT-4 that is a very quick car. His best track time with the Mopar Stage 1 kit is 13.7 seconds. That is very impressive for a $20,000 car with a factory performance computer and injectors making up the "mods" list. Even stock AWD DSM's run mid/low 14's stock.
Nafunu32
02-06-2006, 12:34 AM
This guy did run a 12.9. I'll try to see if he has a time slip. No one around here will mess with him.
The SRT-4 that is around my area cannot even get a race anymore. He runs a 12.9 with only about 2.5k worth of mods. Not bad...
I curious as to what your friend has done to his car that added up to $2.5K? For that price you can get a big turbo kit and all supporting mods and run 11's. Just curious...
s.wilson
02-06-2006, 12:52 AM
I curious as to what your friend has done to his car that added up to $2.5K? For that price you can get a big turbo kit and all supporting mods and run 11's. Just curious...
Yea my buddy ordered the AGP Stage 4 kit. He got most of the stuff, but the manifolds weren't finished yet so he's still waiting on it to come in. Very nice, complete kit. With supporting mods (slicks, mopar PCM, ect) I guess it's supposed to be good for low 12's. And that kit was a few grand if I recall correctly.
But, maybe the $2.5k includes stuff that isn't motor. Wheels or stereo. Something else that could be considered a "mod" but didn't help his 1320.
Nafunu32
02-06-2006, 03:29 AM
He himself would never tell us how much he spent, the guy riding with us told us it was close to $2.5k. Other people were saying he was running 12.9s. I know he has a different exhaust, cai, and other little mods. Its the stock turbo though.
theandysho
02-06-2006, 12:15 PM
Man, this thread got ugly...
:disgust:
pgtatx
02-06-2006, 12:43 PM
Just a quick question...
How come on every message board for every car there is, if someone posts about beating, losing to, or seeing an SRT-4... a fight breaks out?
I mean there is a stigma amongst the SRT-4 owners, and it's frightning how quickly it came to be, and how it got to sooooo many people. I just find it funny really.
I even see it at local car meets and race events. BTW, I almost bought a SRT-4 as my 3rd car, but I can't drive it comfortably. Very horrible driving experience for someone of my size.
To note, I'm not saying positive or negative about the SRT-4 or the owners, just asking the question.
Good times... keep going...
InnovaZero
02-06-2006, 01:01 PM
Just a quick question...
How come on every message board for every car there is, if someone posts about beating, losing to, or seeing an SRT-4... a fight breaks out?
I mean there is a stigma amongst the SRT-4 owners, and it's frightning how quickly it came to be, and how it got to sooooo many people. I just find it funny really.
I even see it at local car meets and race events. BTW, I almost bought a SRT-4 as my 3rd car, but I can't drive it comfortably. Very horrible driving experience for someone of my size.
To note, I'm not saying positive or negative about the SRT-4 or the owners, just asking the question.
Good times... keep going...
Dunno, although I personally would never own one just because at heart its a neon. I'm guessing it might stem from jealousy. The fact that dodge got that kinda half decent reliable horsepower out of that reworked chassis. Then boom, a fwd low 14 second car that gives a 350z and WRX a run for their money. All for about $20,000.
Granted I'd take the 350z in a heartbeat, just because its a better all around car, and just as fast (and that VQ35 exhaust note...oh yes!). But the fact is, the price for that speed can't be beat new...just can't. While you had the Cougar's, Mustang V6's, The Tiburon's, or the Sentra SE-R's. All which owned the $20,000 and under performance marker. But now, they don't. It's def. a good starter dragster, and much like DSM's, with a little bit of work extracts good power.
Clutch
02-06-2006, 02:53 PM
I wouldnt own one as they just dont suit me. I do respect them but they are limited in several ways that become a hinderence to me
foxslayer
02-07-2006, 06:14 PM
I even see it at local car meets and race events. BTW, I almost bought a SRT-4 as my 3rd car, but I can't drive it comfortably. Very horrible driving experience for someone of my size.
I agree with you completely with that. the arent the most comfortable cars to be in. even if your the passenger its still not that great. I could never own one for that reason, hell its hard for me to ride in one lol. but thats just my opinion. They are quick as hell but im not sure about reliablility. Hell around where im at half the dealers that sell them cant work on them.
pgtatx
02-08-2006, 11:05 AM
Just a quick question...
How come on every message board for every car there is, if someone posts about beating, losing to, or seeing an SRT-4... a fight breaks out?
I mean there is a stigma amongst the SRT-4 owners, and it's frightning how quickly it came to be, and how it got to sooooo many people. I just find it funny really.
I even see it at local car meets and race events. BTW, I almost bought a SRT-4 as my 3rd car, but I can't drive it comfortably. Very horrible driving experience for someone of my size.
To note, I'm not saying positive or negative about the SRT-4 or the owners, just asking the question.
Good times... keep going...
Quoting myself...I did leave out 1 other thing...
Along with the SRT-4 owners having their own stigma...then you get the groupings of non SRT owners coming out of the cracks to bash the car entirely. And their reasoning is always "it's just a neon"... forgetting they may be driving "just a mustang, a civic, a cougar, a hyundai, etc"
And this happens any time the letters S, R and T, and the number 4 appear in the subject line of a racing post...
Good times... not back to work...
diddy
02-08-2006, 11:45 AM
forgetting they may be driving "just a mustang, a civic, a cougar, a hyundai, etc"
hey hey hey, i don't just drive a hyundai.....it's a hyundai tiburon damnit. :rofl:
Its not a damn neon!!!!
J/K, Its a neon, on sterioids, but nevertheless a neon. And thats just fine with me.
CougarKid2004
02-08-2006, 02:36 PM
gst = fwd turbo..
gsx = awd turbo.. HUGE difference.. i owned gst's hardcore also..
Thanks for clarifying that i didnt know :rolleyes:
I watched a GST and GSX and they both ran identical...
diddy
02-08-2006, 03:46 PM
is it just me or has there been an increase of stupid people joining this forum lately?:rofl:
KingCougar
02-08-2006, 08:59 PM
[QUOTE=Hytu]Its not a damn neon!!!!
Let them call it a Neon if they want to.....a Neon that can hand them their ass at will.......LOL
AndyMan
02-08-2006, 09:40 PM
No... my thread... what have u guys have done to it...
... no......
Clutch
02-08-2006, 10:06 PM
put your foot down andy
AEMCougar
02-08-2006, 10:08 PM
Couple things to add, since I've been reseaching SRT-4's heavily the past few months since Ill be getting one as soon as I sell the coug:
They are quick cars with the potential to be Very quick cars without breaking the bank. I was reading a thread on the SRTforums last week about 300 WHEEL horsepower for under $600(free flowing intake, wastegate actuator, a tad more boost, etc.). 300 horse is plenty to take out 85% of cars on the street. I know 300 horse will be plenty for me to have fun with. Stock most people are putting down in the 230ish range.
From what Ive seen, stock times range anywhere from 13.8-14.6, depending on the driver of course. 04/05 come stock with an LSD, so their the ones running the quicker times. As much as I love cougs, theres no way a 2.5 is keeping up with one of these. Hell, even a 3.0 will have its hands full. SRT-4's modded are not something I'd screw with. Ive seen a few vids of them pulling on Vettes and Supras. Check out streetfire.net if you dont believe me.
And when people say "Its still a neon" is like them saying an STI is "just an Impreza" or an EVO is "just a Lancer", or hell, that the coug is "just a Contour". They share very little parts as the econo-boxes their named after, engine, seats, even body panels. Thats just my opinion though...
AndyMan
02-08-2006, 10:16 PM
YOU right AEMcougar,.. there is no way a NA 2.5L can keep up with a srt-4,... what were people thinking??!! I am sure people know that it's turbo charged and the cougar isn't. ..... now that makes me want to ask a question now...
WHAT IF....
a perhaps turbo charged cougar... or a super charged cougar went up agaist a srt-4 ????
would it be fair still?... anyone ?
AEMCougar
02-08-2006, 10:44 PM
YOU right AEMcougar,.. there is no way a NA 2.5L can keep up with a srt-4,... what were people thinking??!! I am sure people know that it's turbo charged and the cougar isn't. ..... now that makes me want to ask a question now...
WHAT IF....
a perhaps turbo charged cougar... or a super charged cougar went up agaist a srt-4 ????
would it be fair still?... anyone ?
Dont know if thats sarcastic or not, but whatever :banghead: . And given the average boosted coug puts down anywhere from 220-270, it would be an interesting race. Would it be fun to watch who got traction first? Hell yea lol.
PREDATOR
02-08-2006, 11:07 PM
Haha "pimples"... good one ;)
AndyMan
02-08-2006, 11:22 PM
indeed it would be a good race... Correct me if i am wrong, but the neon srt4's are $20,000,.. which is bang for the buck,... If i am not mistaken, I believe that cougar ( new at the time ) was no more then $17,000,.. now if u invested that 3 extra grand into the super charger,... then yes,.. i think that would equal out the two i think.
Now your talking moded vs moded. Still no comparison...
AndyMan
02-09-2006, 10:39 AM
still no comparsion????... how? both cars would be charged... why would u want a turbo neon to go up agaist a NA cougar?... not fair at all...
You would be throwing major mods on the cougar. Moded vs moded. c'mon how in depth do i have to explain this.
Nafunu32
02-09-2006, 01:47 PM
"stock" Srt-4s are modded Neons... its only fair to match the Neon with a modded cougar. I would hope to God that a turbo charged SRT-4 could outrun a NA cougar...
diddy
02-09-2006, 03:07 PM
"stock" Srt-4s are modded Neons...
ok bobby...I mean....nafunu..... this is why we all think you are all stupid. but as long as we all remember that their turbos don't spool till 3rd gear:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Nafunu32
02-09-2006, 03:09 PM
Ok, right...its true. Get over it. Take a neon, drop the srt-4 motor in it... boom, a modded Neon.
diddy
02-09-2006, 03:18 PM
Ok, right...its true. Get over it. Take a neon, drop the srt-4 motor in it... boom, a modded Neon.
then completely redo the suspension, transmission, and every other working part in it. you are an idiot. so an STI is just a modded impreza right? and an Evo is just a modded lancer?:rofl: i was gonna stay off your case for the most part till you just had to make some completely stupid comments, even more stupid than the turbo comment.
KingCougar
02-09-2006, 09:28 PM
Some people are not too bright when it comes to other cars besides their own.
diddy
02-09-2006, 09:50 PM
im sure if they came out with a cougar s, and this kid bought it, he would ***** at anybody who said it was just a modded cougar. lol. what a tool
XplosivePlushToy
02-09-2006, 09:59 PM
Well if you take a Cougar, slap on an S style body kit, the S hood, the spoilers, the fancy rims, the S engine, made it AWD, etc. it would be a modded Cougar :rofl:
Nafunu32
02-09-2006, 10:04 PM
Ok, maybe I didnt know that the tranny and suspension was different. But over all, they took the Neon, put it on 'roids and is now the SRT-4. It is based off of the Neon.
Clutch
02-09-2006, 10:19 PM
Yeah and the evo is a lancer and the STI is the non turbo wagon.
s.wilson
02-10-2006, 12:53 AM
and the SVT contour is a contour :confused:
:biggrin: I kid, I kid
XplosivePlushToy
02-10-2006, 01:38 AM
Ok, maybe I didnt know that the tranny and suspension was different. But over all, they took the Neon, put it on 'roids and is now the SRT-4. It is based off of the Neon.
And the cobra is based off your v6 powered mustang. That doesnt change the fact that there are worlds between those 2 cars.
We appreciate you pointing out the obvious though, Captain.
Nafunu32
02-10-2006, 02:02 AM
Why are we trying to compare a turbo SRT-4 with a cougar anyway? This is lame
diddy
02-10-2006, 12:03 PM
Why are we trying to compare a turbo SRT-4 with a cougar anyway? This is lame
because the creator of the thread asked why he was able to keep up with the srt till 3rd, which is a legit question. YOU are the lame one.
Pwn3ge on so many levels. And I dont even need to type anything. LOL.
diddy
02-10-2006, 01:59 PM
Pwn3ge on so many levels. And I dont even need to type anything. LOL.
I'm sure nanufu will chime in saying you got owned bc you are only driving a modded neon.:rofl: :rofl: hey man, so what gear does your turbo spool in? I heard that vin diesel's rx7 had a turbo that spooled in 2nd gear, maybe you should get one of those.:rofl:
MagicHallucinations
02-10-2006, 02:12 PM
Ok, maybe I didnt know that the tranny and suspension was different. But over all, they took the Neon, put it on 'roids and is now the SRT-4. It is based off of the Neon.
no, they took the neon body and put it on a real car. they may look similar and share the "neon" name but the srt4 is FAR from being just a neon.
M