3L back up and running

[jaged]

got the hose i needed for the UIM, started it up, sounded good. But i need a short ram cause the air filter isnt hooked up.

now for the egr and the freakin chip

[jaged]

i think that the rev limiter problem went away as well, reved it a bit and no limiter, but it was cold and didnt want to do it too much.

[MetallicaCougs]

didn't Chris have the car running when you bought it?

[jaged]

yeah it was running, but i bbought a sable uim and its been apart since last weekend b/c of one stupid vaccum hose. should be able to get it on the road tonight to see how it runs

[Mtang4life]

Awsome! What were your issues with hte vacuum hoses? Just cureous. I did "ruin" one of the hard lines (brake booster), so I could use the ends for a different setup.

Time for a CF hood now? Which reminds me, I forgot to give you all the extra paint, but I cant ship that kinda stuff through the mail. If your gonna be at any meets or anything shoot me a call, or a PM, and Ill give you that stuff. The drip rail pieces STILL havent shown up :mad: I also have a set of stock mirrors I owe ya, I think.

Shoot me a PM on how things are going with the chip.

[jaged]

the vaccum lines are different on the sable than on the excape. one was going straight down off of the intake that needed to meet up with one perpendicular to it 1/2" away. A $9 90 degree bend hose fixed it.

as of right now my CAI has left indianapolis. I should have it monday, just gonna use the short ram part for now. gotta see how the auto x season goes, might need more power :evil:

[Mtang4life]

Hrm, something about the SM allowances for up to 3.0L DOHC motor w/ forced induction? :)

[jaged]

well since it spun through 3rd gear the other day, not sure ill need more power, but more traction, quaife perhaps

[Mtang4life]

A Quaife diff. would definatly help.

[jaged]

was talking to mtang last night and we figured wout what the problem was. the dpfe sensor on the 99's is different so I was looking for something that wasnt there. so now i just need to get some hose and 2 oxygen sensors and ill be good

[MetallicaCougs]

bump

[jaged]

well the 3L is down for the moment, stupid clutch

[MetallicaCougs]

lol remind me to keep you away from my tranny at CF

[jaged]

i cant help it the clutch is only rated at 250lbs. and if the car is putting down 197lbs at the wheels i can only imagine what its making at the flywheel

[Moraki]

Oh some asshat was asking in garage talk i think how a non deisel engine could produce more torque than hp.

[MetallicaCougs]

chris didn't think to upgrade the tranny?

[jaged]

he did, itws a svt clutch but theyre only rated at 250 ft/lbs

[MetallicaCougs]

so what are you going to put in there?

[sonza68]

A new clutch. :shrug:

[jaged]

spec stage 3

[MaverickFlyer]

spec stage 3

Thats a pretty heavy clutch for a little Cougar! :tongue:

Have fun driving it on the street! ;)

[MetallicaCougs]

if it keeps it running tho . . .

[MaverickFlyer]

HIs left leg is going to be twice the size of his right!

[MetallicaCougs]

he will just have to do one legged eliptical exercise to catch the other one up

[MaverickFlyer]

he will just have to do one legged eliptical exercise to catch the other one up

That would be funny to see! :rofl:

[jaged]

not really gonna drive it a whole lot on the street ive decided. its a race car it should haved race car parts. theres a chance im gonna go SC so why upgrade twice?

[MaverickFlyer]

not really gonna drive it a whole lot on the street ive decided. its a race car it should haved race car parts. theres a chance im gonna go SC so why upgrade twice?

This is true! But still overkill. Hell the stage 1 can take up to 270 ft lbs. Stage 2 is good up to 340 ft lbs. How much torque do you think you'll make?

[jaged]

well thev svt was good to 250 and look what happened to it. And is that rated at the crank or at the wheel? im making just shy of 200 ft/lbs so thats pushing it at the crank.

if i do go SC that will add what 100 ft/lbs???

im gonna pull the starter and check the pressure plate, it may be loose(crosses fingers)

[MaverickFlyer]

That would be at the crank, a stage 2 would probably be enough but what the hell put the stage 3 in. I'm just thinking about the Mustang stage 3 that is good up to 680 ft lbs.

[MetallicaCougs]

Good luck with getting a chip to run right. Dan's story is a nightmare or is his different because it's a turbo?

[sonza68]

The chip problems Dan's had don't seem to be related to the turbo (some may be though). Steve has gone through pretty much the same thing.

[MaverickFlyer]

The chip problems Dan's had don't seem to be related to the turbo (some may be though). Steve has gone through pretty much the same thing.

Thats the problem sending out the chip to get burned. You really need the car there to test it out, and try different things.

[MetallicaCougs]

so would it be better to take a car to a dyno tune place?

[sonza68]

Definately.

[MaverickFlyer]

Definately.

As long as that place knows what they are doing.

[sonza68]

Definately.

[MaverickFlyer]

And Tom is not with in 100 yards of the Car!

[sonza68]

Hey now. I don't break the cars, they break themselves.

[jaged]

i had the 3L on a dyno and burned right. im gonna get it reburnt though and have a program for 93 octane and poss 110 as well since its a flip chip

[MetallicaCougs]

was there any more info about a dyno tune at fest? was it really going to happen?

[MaverickFlyer]

i had the 3L on a dyno and burned right. im gonna get it reburnt though and have a program for 93 octane and poss 110 as well since its a flip chip

110? Get the SC First!

[jaged]

as far as i know yes its gonna happen. im getting the 2.5 done for sure, just want some numbers. maybe even with/with out chip to compare.

there is a station by me that sells 110 race fuel. Its $4.85 right now i think. The SC is only $3700:eek: i gotta pay off a good chunk of the car b4 i do that

[Moraki]

Bah why SC a 2.5 just make it a matching pair of 3L.

[jaged]

not gonna SC the 2.5. its staying a 2.5 atx for my driver. the SC would go on the 3L

[MaverickFlyer]

as far as i know yes its gonna happen. im getting the 2.5 done for sure, just want some numbers. maybe even with/with out chip to compare.

there is a station by me that sells 110 race fuel. Its $4.85 right now i think. The SC is only $3700:eek: i gotta pay off a good chunk of the car b4 i do that

Nice, So I take it your not going to run an IC?

[jaged]

whys that? thats just the cost for the SC kit
http://www.vortechsuperchargers.com/news/98-00_contcoug_tuner.html

ill be looking E1's car over at CF believe me

[MaverickFlyer]

Will his be ready for Fest?

[jaged]

its supposed to be,i dont know how his paint is going though i know the motor was really close though

[MaverickFlyer]

I haven't talked to John for a while so I don't know. I know he is working on the Talon.

[MetallicaCougs]

SC = giving up your first born

[MaverickFlyer]

SC = giving up your first born

Cheaper than a turbo!

[MaverickFlyer]

Actually, not if you build your own turbo!

[jaged]

well this is all a big maybe still. i gotta see how the season goes. I might not even need it. and i need to ge the clutch fixed before that can happen

[MaverickFlyer]

well this is all a big maybe still. i gotta see how the season goes. I might not even need it. and i need to ge the clutch fixed before that can happen



"might not even need it" What are you nuts! :crazy: You don't need a 3L either, but that didn't stop you! :rofl:

[jaged]

I want to get into more competitive races so the 3L mtx will compete more with the bmw's that are prevelent in the class. if i dont need the 3L ill spend less money on more suspension and more tires lol

[MaverickFlyer]

You can never have to much HP, EVER!

[MetallicaCougs]

You can never have to much HP, EVER!

:stupid:

[jaged]

well when traction becomes an issue the there is such a thing. i want a car that takes off, not spiins, then takes off. DanG couldnt proablly do a lot of autox courses cause of to much power

[MaverickFlyer]

well when traction becomes an issue the there is such a thing. i want a car that takes off, not spiins, then takes off. DanG couldnt proablly do a lot of autox courses cause of to much power

You can always ease off on the gas pedal, but you can't push it any further! :crazy: If you have traction problems, fix those not your output. Trust me you can never have enough power and it's not just an ego thing.

[MaverickFlyer]

:stupid:

You be Quiet! http://www.watchmen.nl.amnesty.org/images/smileys/zwijg.gif

[jaged]

autox tracks are only so long though, dont really ever get that far into the power, but yesmore power is better

my dad has a sticker on his truck. "sex is like horsepower, you can never get enough" The truck has a 460

[MetallicaCougs]

You can make it a track baby instead of autocross

[jaged]

ill see more autox's that track races though. there's not as many track races either

[MetallicaCougs]

we got a 1/4 track here, but the people there are more muscle car guys

I went once last year, they made it clear the didn't like newer cars :(

[MaverickFlyer]

we got a 1/4 track here, but the people there are more muscle car guys

I went once last year, they made it clear the didn't like newer cars :(

Maybe newer slow cars! I'm sure if you showed up with an 06 Vette they would be pretty impressed! ;)

[jaged]

or DanG's car

[sonza68]

Or that Viper I posted in Garage Talk.

[MetallicaCougs]

the owner here just got a new viper

[MaverickFlyer]

the owner here just got a new viper

Did you take it for a test drive? :biggrin:

[MaverickFlyer]

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[sonza68]

I got a bunch of those yesterday.

[MaverickFlyer]

It's been pretty bad lately, I have really cut back on my posting because of it! Also because I have a huge March 1st deadline to meet!

[MetallicaCougs]

Did you take it for a test drive? :biggrin:

lol I'm trying!

[MaverickFlyer]

lol I'm trying!

Well, try harder! ;)

[sonza68]

It's been pretty bad lately, I have really cut back on my posting because of it! Also because I have a huge March 1st deadline to meet!
I have a big 24 Feb deadline.

[MaverickFlyer]

I have a big 24 Feb deadline.

Whats that, to hit 6000 posts? :tongue:

[MetallicaCougs]

lol to bomb canada, I bet

[sonza68]

Trial Installation report.

[MaverickFlyer]

My boss just caught me printing a drawing I did for a side Job! Opps!:rofl:

[MetallicaCougs]

eeek not good

[MaverickFlyer]

eeek not good

I don't care any more, I want to get fired so he has to pay severance.

[MaverickFlyer]

Well it's Feb 28, 10:30am and I have my stuff done for my March 1st deadline. Damm I'm good! They even threw in a last minute change that I got a 2 week extra for and still finished on schedule! I have a March 31st deadline for the next phase, I'm almost done that too! I better slow down!

[MetallicaCougs]

go mav :banana:

[MaverickFlyer]

go mav :banana:

And I wonder why I can't get fired! :banghead:

[jaged]

i talked with Mr. St0v3 last night and he said that the presure plate springs might be shot *crosses fingers* but the trans still has to come out. Time to shop for a quaife

[MaverickFlyer]

Why flywheel do you have on there, might be time for a Fidenza too!

[jaged]

its a svt flywheel

[MaverickFlyer]

its a svt flywheel

What does the SVT one weigh? Maybe you could go with the 8lb SPEC Billet Aluminum one!;) I think the Fidenza is 9lbs!

[jaged]

i think its ony a couple lbs lighter than stock

[MetallicaCougs]

did he say anything about my headers?

[MaverickFlyer]

did he say anything about my headers?

Yeah he sold them to me! :tongue:

[MetallicaCougs]

header theif :tongue:

[MaverickFlyer]

header theif :tongue:

I would never do that to you Mary, Tom Maybe! :rofl:

[sonza68]

:disgust:

[MaverickFlyer]

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Give em up Tom!!!

I might of already asked this, but where did you get them?

[MetallicaCougs]

ov3n said he might have mine off this weekend :biggrin:

[MaverickFlyer]

ov3n said he might have mine off this weekend :biggrin:

Have you paid him already? :(

[sonza68]

I might of already asked this, but where did you get them?
Some Contour guy bought them, but wrecked his car before he installed them. A local autocrosser picked them up for his SVT, but never got around to installing them. Andy sold the SVT for an STi and still had these uninstalled headers and asked me if I'd be interested. He said he just wanted to get back what he paid for them, so I picked them up for $600.

[MaverickFlyer]

Nice deal! :thumbsup:

You do know Sean Hyland is Canadian don't you? :rofl:

[sonza68]

Yup. IIRC he's near Toronto.