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mustang70
12-12-2005, 10:01 PM
I'm new to this site. I live in Newmanstown, PA. I am working on two project cars at one time, but I was wondering what modifications, I should do to get the most horsepower out of my 99 cougar,2.5 liter? Any suggestions will be appreciated? thanks, Damian

wadespencer99
12-12-2005, 10:24 PM
Welcome!

Read some of the stickied posts in the 2.5 performance section....particularly the SVT upgrades post.

Some of the common bolt-ons are headers (MSDS or Weapon Rice), a cat back exhaust system (Trubendz makes some affordable systems), and a short ram intake with a cold air extention.

Our cars have many interchangeable engine parts with the Contour SVT, and a common modification is to install the upper intake manifold, throttle body, and lower intake manifold (if your car was made after 5/99 you don't need the LIM) on our 2.5 liter non-SVT engines to get a little more airflow.

If you feel like really getting dirty and spending some cash, the 3.0 duratec engine drops into our cars with little modification and you will gain an extra .5 liter of diplacement.

We're having a meet on Sunday, December 18th in Camp Hill, which isn't too far from you...you should stop by!

Good luck!

mustang70
12-13-2005, 12:08 AM
Thanks for the info. I'm looking to spend between 5,000 and 7,000 in cash, have to safe money for my other project car. As far as the meeting I will not be able to attend, this past friday I was in a car accident and my only drivable car was wrecked pretty bad, so now I have no transportation to get around until I get back one of my cars. Thanks anyway though for asking.

wadespencer99
12-13-2005, 12:10 AM
You already have the car, and have 7000 to spend on mods???

Call a company named ADC and order a turbo kit then :cool:

mustang70
12-13-2005, 12:38 AM
I already ordered the turbocharger yesterday, and I still have 5,000 to 7,000 to spend in other engine and transmission mods. I ordered a body kit and lowering kit already too.

YOSLVR442
12-13-2005, 12:39 AM
yes!! i agree with wade

YOSLVR442
12-13-2005, 12:39 AM
and welcome

mustang70
12-13-2005, 12:41 AM
Thanks and nice to meet everybody

IH8CIVX
12-13-2005, 12:14 PM
i had 7,000 to spend and a heavy mod'd tc and a beater project that has been fully winterized with remote start, heated seats, a new altenator, exhaust and 4 new winter tires, but the 7000 extra i had to spend i spent on rickys mom. Shes pretty expensive... you should see ricks house, its all thanks to my now empty pockets :)

mustang70
12-13-2005, 02:30 PM
every year I save up money to work on my cars over the winter, last winter I save 15,000 for my 1970 mustang, this year I saved up that much for both the mustang and cougar. But I must admit that I really don't know what to buy for the cougar, its easier to build up the mustang then the cougar, but i'm up for the challenge this year.

YOSLVR442
12-13-2005, 02:36 PM
you got a 70 mustang huh, plain mustang or mach 1/ boss??

YOSLVR442
12-13-2005, 02:37 PM
i was going to get a 69 mach 1 but instead i got my 442

mustang70
12-13-2005, 02:38 PM
a coupe, have orginal 302, but building a 460 bored and stroked to a 552

mustang70
12-13-2005, 03:10 PM
I have another question? What brand of rims should I go with?

IH8CIVX
12-13-2005, 04:22 PM
you mean what rims? Dont buy them for the name, by them for how they look... Thats like saying what brand car should i get. i certainly wouldnt say a chevy, but i would if you were comparing a vette to a nissan altima... feel me? As far as building a cougar and it being a challenge... its not really. With our cars its more of who you know then what money you have. Theres a ton of people around this site that will give you the know how and the place to get it cheap.

also keep in mind your cougar will never top mine.... bored 3 liter, supercharged, two nitroous bottles, full cage, all carbon fenders, hood, hatch, doors, and roof, widebody, fully tuned, dyno and track tested good for 346 ponies, and a nice 12.03 at 119mph.... ;-) I did it all on only 5,000 bucks too :) Theres your challenge... If you dare even try and beat it... :)

IH8CIVX
12-13-2005, 04:29 PM
here some pics...

http://www.cougardb.com/image.php?id=3476&raw=1
http://cougardb.com/image.php?id=7639&raw=1

wadespencer99
12-13-2005, 04:34 PM
Whoa....it's gettin' deep in here.

Upper90
12-13-2005, 04:53 PM
Adam....you are just hilarious. I honestly mean that. You are getting funnier and funnier with age man.

mustang70
12-13-2005, 07:52 PM
One thing I will never do to any of my project cars is nos. Nos is a poor mans quick fix to get fast. I believe in all motor cars. I know any car can go fast with nos, but its a real challenge to produce the same results with just motor.

IH8CIVX
12-13-2005, 09:27 PM
One thing I will never do to any of my project cars is nos. Nos is a poor mans quick fix to get fast. I believe in all motor cars. I know any car can go fast with nos, but its a real challenge to produce the same results with just motor.

heh, that 12.03 wasnt with nos.... it WAS all motor. I had zex nitrous installed after track day that we had with keystone a while back. the zex is just nice to have off the line while waiting for the supercharger to catch up. its a nice advantage :)
you can ask keith why i dont have it anymore (upper90). I asked him to pick it up from the shop beside his job the one day on 22. Drives it to my place accidently forgetting to close the bottle and decides to buck down a 45 mph zone at 90 hitting the applebees sign... totalled my car. then he decides to make posts about how funny i am. I think i speak for most of keystone when i say that me losing my cougar is no laughing matter. We can settle this outside these boards upper90. I think its funny how i paid the bill because your daughter needed christmas presents under the tree last year. I have got nothing in return.

IH8CIVX
12-13-2005, 09:36 PM
message to keith...

"Be ready to serve and invite your customers into your business by having your property and signage brightly lit."

Just letting you know that Super Shoes on 22 says "Super hoes" right now...:bowdown: I went into the store... then sued them for false advertising, bait and switch mother ****ers they are in there...

Upper90
12-13-2005, 11:17 PM
message to keith...

"Be ready to serve and invite your customers into your business by having your property and signage brightly lit."

Just letting you know that Super Shoes on 22 says "Super hoes" right now...:bowdown: I went into the store... then sued them for false advertising, bait and switch mother ****ers they are in there...


mustang...I see you have met our resident post*****...IH8CIVX. He is harmless but funny as hell.

Adam - nice job on the message. I might just use a varition of that ;)
I will have to check out the Super hoes store. Sounds good :)
Good lookin' out!

wadespencer99
12-13-2005, 11:30 PM
This is the most entertainment that Keystone has had all year :rofl:

mustang70
12-14-2005, 12:08 AM
Super hoes, you got to give me directions to that store! So you don't think I could hit 12's with a 2.5 liter motor?

IH8CIVX
12-14-2005, 07:40 AM
not low 12's in the cougs 2.5... unless you can get rid of the weight, the wheel hop and the one wheel spin. Its not getting the power out of the motor thats the problem, its getting the power to the wheels where people have problems. Check out the 3L section. The fastest coug at cougfest last year i think was a high 12, can anyone back me with the numbers for sure? Im pretty sure it was a NY guy who did it.

as far as your local super hoes locations please click here for the closest location http://www.frappr.com/keystoneneco

mustang70
12-14-2005, 10:14 AM
So I need to deal with the weight, wheelhopping and tire spinning for starters.

IH8CIVX
12-14-2005, 11:27 AM
yes and we have guys with nothing but a roll cage+ a 3L+ a supercharger + flywheel and clutch and they're still not breaking 12's...

YOSLVR442
12-14-2005, 11:53 AM
yeah the biggest is getting it to the ground. the coug has a tendency to wheel hop.

mustang70
12-14-2005, 03:29 PM
Is there any specific company I should go with for the flywheel and clutch, also is there anyone who makes a cage or should I just make one on my own?

IH8CIVX
12-14-2005, 04:37 PM
everyone so far has made there own. James had one made of pvc he was selling a while back. Fidenza makes both the stage 3 clutch and flywheel...

mustang70
12-14-2005, 05:45 PM
I just ordered the clutch and flywheel, and my buddy owns a welding business so I can make a cage there for free. Is there anything else for the tranny I should get? What about transaxles?

YOSLVR442
12-14-2005, 07:46 PM
i went with the fidanza fly wheel and the spec 3 clutch there are axles available but they are pricey

oh and either a quafie lsd or torsen lsd

mustang70
12-14-2005, 08:18 PM
How pricey is pricey, are we talking a couple of thousand? I am ordering the lsd but which one is better or are they about the same?

IH8CIVX
12-14-2005, 10:45 PM
How pricey is pricey, are we talking a couple of thousand? I am ordering the lsd but which one is better or are they about the same?

only a few thousand :blah: what site did you buy your things off of... ?:rolleyes:

:needpics:

mustang70
12-14-2005, 11:34 PM
spmotorsports is the site I bought some of the stuff off of. My buddy ordered my turbo charger, because he could get a discount, I don't know where he ordered it from.

mustang70
12-14-2005, 11:37 PM
Sorry I don't have any pics. I don't even have a camera to take pictures, I rather spend my money on my cars.

YOSLVR442
12-15-2005, 11:22 AM
well not pricey, i think stage 4 axles are 800 or so. the lsd are the same basically. it depends on who you talk to. i went with quafie because of the reputation they have.

YOSLVR442
12-15-2005, 11:23 AM
what cams are you going with

mustang70
12-15-2005, 12:15 PM
I've been searching the web for cams but can't find any, I don't think i'm looking in the right spot? Where do I search for the axles?

YOSLVR442
12-15-2005, 12:35 PM
driveshaft shop has them

as for cams, people go with the ford 3L intake and mazda 3L exhaust.

you can use the svt contour but you wont get maximum performance due to the overlap.

or you can go cat cams but they are 1100 and the overlap is not bad depending on the stage. they are fully adjustable as well. as far as i know im the only one in the us that has these cams and im still in the process of getting numbers and sorting everything out!

mustang70
12-15-2005, 01:38 PM
Thanks for the info. Do you know what website for the axles? I decided to use some of my mustang money to get stuff for my cougar, so that I can at least have one of them done for the summer. I hate having two cars that I can't drive! So any other suggestions you can give me would be helpful?

YOSLVR442
12-15-2005, 07:26 PM
driveshaftshop.com is the site i think.

I can give you a bunch of suggestions, what are you thinking??

YOSLVR442
12-15-2005, 07:27 PM
yeah i know the feeling of having multiple cars not running!! it sucks

mustang70
12-15-2005, 08:06 PM
I ordered the lsd and the axels(I got axels from driveshaftshop.com). I am wondering if I need a better fuel pump and injectors with running my turbo, and should I get better spark plugs?

mustang70
12-15-2005, 08:10 PM
Thanks for the help. If you have any other suggestions on how I can make it even more fast would be a big help!

YOSLVR442
12-15-2005, 08:45 PM
yes you need a bigger fuel pump and probably 36# injectors or bigger like 44's. i would go with a walboro (spelling) i think its 255 pound. with a turbo you could stand to go a colder plug.

what stage axles you get man?

mustang70
12-15-2005, 10:57 PM
Ok thanks again! Went on driveshaft shop and the best they had was stage 2 which could support up to 400hp. They didn't have anything better for the cougars. I do appreciate the help everyone is giving, especially yoslvr442!

YOSLVR442
12-15-2005, 11:28 PM
No problem man!! thats what we are here for!! especially when its a fellow keystone member!:biggrin:

let me know if ya need anything else

mustang70
12-15-2005, 11:35 PM
I do need some help finding the fuel pump and injectors? My computer sucks and keeps saying badurl when I type in certain websites that I know are true websites like walbro.com. Are there any other sites for the fuel pump?

YOSLVR442
12-16-2005, 12:01 AM
i think if im not mistaken you can use the fuel pump off of a mustang cobra, i got a bbk one for the mustang and am planning on using it. you can also try svt focus sites too.

mustang70
12-16-2005, 01:11 AM
thanks! How about the injectors? I have no clue where to purchase these at, since I never worked on a car that I needed to change these?

YOSLVR442
12-16-2005, 10:33 AM
ill look around and see what i can find!!

mustang70
12-16-2005, 11:39 AM
Thanks, that will be a big help! Any other advice would be helpful? What about sway bars and subframe connectors?

Upper90
12-16-2005, 11:46 AM
I have orange 19lb injectors that have around 8-10k on them. I bought them used off of someone but decided not to do anymore engine work on my car. If you are looking for these let me know.

mustang70
12-16-2005, 11:50 AM
Thanks, but I think I need bigger? Do you know where I can get a better fuel pump at?

Upper90
12-16-2005, 12:18 PM
try http://www.batinc.net

our stuff is under the contour. they are great to deal with. they sell one fuel pump

here is a link to their catalog...pdf file.

http://64.202.180.37/files/contour.PDF

mustang70
12-16-2005, 01:33 PM
This sucks, my computer won't open the file! Man this is a bad day for me, my computer sucks, and then I went out to smoke a cig and slipped and fell on the ice! Man that hurts! Thanks upper90 for the site!

Upper90
12-16-2005, 05:28 PM
You need Adobe Acrobat reader to open the file and your welcome.

mustang70
12-16-2005, 06:04 PM
So thats all I need to do, thanks for the info! What do you recommend for sway bars and should I get subframe connectors?

IH8CIVX
12-17-2005, 09:56 AM
I honestly think that with all that **** you bought you really need to get the muffler bearings upgraded. There is no way that with all the compression you're gonna have that they will even last.

mustang70
12-17-2005, 10:07 AM
Ok, then wear should I go to find the muffler bearings. Any help is appreciated? Right now I have a Borla cat-back system on the car.

Upper90
12-17-2005, 03:17 PM
I honestly think that with all that **** you bought you really need to get the muffler bearings upgraded. There is no way that with all the compression you're gonna have that they will even last.

Yea, good point Adam. I didn't even think of that.

IH8CIVX
12-17-2005, 04:43 PM
pm cvsmightymouse, im pretty sure hes has an extra set that he took off when he sold his turbo setup to keith.

mustang70
12-17-2005, 04:53 PM
Ok, thanks for all this help!

mustang70
12-17-2005, 05:00 PM
If there is any other good suggestion you guys have, I would like to know? I have about 4,000 left in my cougar budget! So whatever else I need let me know, thanks!

YOSLVR442
12-17-2005, 05:35 PM
uhemm, now guys, i hate to be a party crasher but dont be an ass! mustang70 dont listen to them they are just playing with you!!

adam and keith are a nice pair!:tongue:

always pulling tricks:biggrin:

IH8CIVX
12-17-2005, 06:11 PM
Sorry guys, but im callin :bs:

mustang70
12-17-2005, 06:12 PM
Thanks for the heads up! I still would like some advice, just the right advice. I really don't know much when it comes to front wheel drive cars, especially their motors.

Upper90
12-17-2005, 08:24 PM
Lee what are you talking about?

I believe this is what Adam was talking about...

http://www.mufflerbearings.com/

They also sell a lot of stuff for all kinds of cars... my favorite is the first one... the "Tire air change kit" :biggrin:

http://www.mufflerbearings.com/products.htm

mustang70
12-17-2005, 08:46 PM
That site has some of the stupidest things I ever saw. I would appreciate more help, if not I will try to figure things out on my own. If you do give me advice, please be serious. I do need help with these motors, they our nothing like my mustangs, especially these dam computers in these new cars.

IH8CIVX
12-18-2005, 01:34 AM
oh yeah because i forgot one was a ford and one was a mercury. one runs on gas, the other oil...

Listen, im the first one to bend over backwards for anyone of my homies on this site. Ive recruited members, made trips out to philly when no one else was, drove to virginia to help a fellow member out, planned "meets" when everyone else was hibernating, practically given away hundreds of dollars worth of mods to fellow members, almost got arrested trying to get items out of a junkyard for fellow members and the list goes on.
But i refuse to help, let alone believe some newbie who comes on here, pimpin the **** outta himself talkin bout 2 cars with 7 grand to spend on each yadda yadda yadda. I got two cars, whoop-di-****, do i flaunt it every two posts? no. Do i brag about the 7 grand i dropped on my car while going to school full time and working a million jobs, no. My man Ricky (cvxmightymouse) has a million dollar home with 2 beemers, a game room biggern then my house and a bar bigger then hooters, i dont see him askin bout "i got10 grand to spend, what should i buy?" and then tell us he just bought it, 15 mins after the post is written. Yeah hes asked for help, but didnt need to go stuck up ***** on it to help. Weve told him 50 times to check out the 3l where it has the recipes and minds to make the ponies run... Why should we keep going on about "what do i need?" "you need 18 quarts of synthetic oil for the collant fan in the radiator..." "Well where do i buy it?" "walmart.com" "okay, i just bought it, now i have 23,029,299,565 dollars left. What else do i need?"

sorry if im being too rough, or even overreacting, but i ffel i have every right. Its kinda like... I dont mind guys being gay, but it bugs me when they are flaming.... I dont mind helping people out, but stop tryin to flaunt what i dont think you got... poser :)

if im wrong and you got everything bought and installed as said, then a bottle of Jager for every person who had to read this and posted in this thread is on me... disposable kodaks are on sale for christmas... wink wink mudda suck-ah!

mustang70
12-18-2005, 02:10 AM
Number one, I never said I just bought the car. If you need glasses to read, I will buy you them. Number two, I have this money because I save my money as much as I can. Number three, I have my own mortgage to pay on top of all this. If you don't like what I am asking then don't respond. It's not like I am putting a gun to your head. It's your right to answer or not, but one thing I will not tolerate is some young punk talking crap. I really don't know much about these engine and front wheel drive systems. Another thing I am not here to brag, I work on my cars, go to work, and take care of my son when I have him. I teach him not to lie and I lead by example. If you think i'm lying well thats your right. Plus I have a 2.5Liter and I been in there, but most of whats in there I already have or wrote down. I just need to know what brands are better, and some opinions on what you guys might think I should do, thats all! Once again if that bothers you, you don't have to respond!

mustang70
12-18-2005, 02:19 AM
On another note, I would really like to know why the **** are you being so immature. The name calling is really not called for, and why would I want to spend money on a camera. I rather spend the money on my cars. Also just because you don't have the money to spend on your car, doesn't mean I don't!

mustang70
12-18-2005, 02:28 AM
Now for a serious question, will svt heads fit on my motor? I know the svt is a 3.0 liter, but will that match up to my motor?

wadespencer99
12-18-2005, 05:44 AM
if im wrong and you got everything bought and installed as said, then a bottle of Jager for every person who had to read this and posted in this thread is on me...

I read it twice...can I have two bottles of Jager? :biggrin:

Upper90
12-18-2005, 09:10 AM
Okay everyone....just calm down or I will make this post go away for good.

Adam - I see your point, but lets not get outta hand with the BS calling

Mustang - as I said before...Adam(IH8CIVX) is harmless but always helpful. He started to just have some fun with you in which I helped. I posted the muffler bearings website to try to get that point across of just being funny. I guess it was a little initiation to Keystone. No harm inteneded and I think from the help we were giving you before, you can see that we DO and WILL help.

Wade - stop reading Adams post or you are gonna get alchol poisoning.

Now...back to the fun and questions...

mustang70
12-18-2005, 09:16 AM
Ok upper90. Can you answer me this question, Does the svt heads match up to the 2.5 liter block?

IH8CIVX
12-18-2005, 10:04 AM
1999-2003 3.0L DOHC Duratec Engines only from the following vehicles swap with fairly little work.

Ford Taurus
Mercury Sable
Ford Escape
Mazda Tribute

1999-2003 3.0L DOHC Duratec Engines only from the following vehicles swap with some extra customizations needed

Lincoln LS
Jaguar S-Type
Mazda 6

Q. I want more power but I love the sweet sound of a n/a or I don't want to subject my engine to a beating by a S/C,T/C,NOS or I'm just a plain cheap bastard. How do I get more power?

A: Simple.. add-on the correct bolts ons and swap in a 3L engine. Simple eh!? :) When I mean correct, a Cat-back exhaust exhaust comes to mind along with a open element filter and headers or Y pipe (I reconmend MSDS good bang/buck ratio)
Q. How much of a power increase would I expect with a 3L swap?

A. A completely stock 98 SVT made around 189hp/189tq to the wheels. With the above mods I would say 210-20hp is very possible. As of March, 6th my 3L is making 245hp, 215ft lbs-tq at the wheels
Q. How much does the 3L block or engine cost?

A. Expect a low milage used 3L to run about $8-900 bux and a new long block to be anywhere from $1400-2500
Q. Besides the 3L engine what else is needed?

A. Swap all the 2.5L parts to the 3L block including the timing chain cover, oil pan and pickup tube. New head bolts, head gaskets from 3L engine, 2.5L timing chain cover gaskets (3) and oil pan gaskets are needed. Also the oil/water cooler has to be pulled from the 2.5L if from a SVT engine. The stock ECU can be used, but should be re-tuned. Also use your car's ECU, harness and fuel system. Retrofitting to the 3L or a newer year system would be a major PITA.
Q. Is the 3L block prone to oil starvation from long handed right turns?

A. yes, (no if u use 2.5L heads of 2001 or newer, Ford undid the mistake of taking out 2 oil return holes in the heads in the original 2.5L heads)*
Q. Would any 3L engine work? Let say a 96 Taurus Duratec?

A. No, only 99 (mine had a build date of late 98) and newer Duratecs from a Taurus will correctly connect to a MTX75. Its possible that 3L from an Escape/Tribute might work. And possible the 3L from the X-type might work
Q. Can I swap a 3L into my pre-98 contour?

A. Yes there has been some one who has already done so, goto the Contour.org forums and do a search. But once again use your car's engine control system, upgrading is a PITA.
Q. Why do I need a 2.5L oil pan and pickup tube?

A. The 3L oil pan has the holes in the incorrect posistion to accept a MTX75 tranny and the 3L pan is deeper so the oil pick up tube is also longer and hits the bottom of the oil pan. Thus the 2.5L oil pan and pickup tube needs to be used.
Q. Since the 3L was used with a auto tranny, will it have any problems accepting a manual tranny and clutch?

A. No, but the crank has to be ground down a little to make room for the MTX75 input shaft.
Q. * What affect does the increase on engine size have on the ECU?

A. VE (load) is calculated by the airflow, the RPM and the engine_displacement. Engine_displacement/(Airflow/RPM)=VE. This might have a small effect on the ECU, since engine displacement is programmed into our ECUs as a static value, more so on non-svt cars since the ECU as SVT ECUs seem to run on the rich side. My stock SVT ECU seems to handle the 3L just fine, but it still needs to be retuned to get the most out of the 3L.*


Advantages for the 2001+ 3.0L are:


-The injector position is better in the 2001 intake/head design.
-The plastic intake conducts less heat to the incoming air charge.
-The water pump placement is similar to the factory 2.5 water pump placement, meaning fewer modifications to the hoses.
-The high velocity oval port design used along with revised intake cams provide better midrange power without the drop off produced by the older design at the RPM when the secondaries opened.
-SVT cams swap right in.

The Disadvantages for the 2001+ 3.0L are:


-The plastic intake can't take very much porting without fear of cracking.
-The heads don't accept the 2.5L intakes without an adapter plate.
-They're more expensive to buy initially than the older 3.0L would be.


Advantages for the '98-'99 3.0L engines are:


-Cheaper price (most expensive one I've gotten was $500 delivered for this year of 3.0L full engine assembly, including harness) allows you to purchase better than stock parts to replace worn parts for about the same price as the 2001 would cost initially.
-The 2.5L intakes fit the 3L heads without modifications.
-Using the 3.0L heads would require an electric water pump. Could be good or bad depending on how you look at it. For this case, it's good that you got a cheaper price on the engine itself, so that you can pay the $300 for the water pump and controller (never pay list price, LOL!). Plus you can have fun with the extra 5-7 HP that it saves in parasitic losses over the factory pump.


Disadvantages for the '98-'99 3.0L are:


-Higher mileage blocks may require more machine work to return to the road.
-Use of aftermarket water pump may be required, which involves a custom installation.

Some part ideas for maximum upgrades
Engine
5/02 3L Engine Block & Heads
Balanced Forged 3L Crankshaft
Sinter-Forged Connecting Rods with Clevite Tri-Metal Bearings
Ported & Polished Oval Port Cylinder Heads with 35mm Intake & 30mm Exhaust Valves
Head Intake Ports: 70mm x 33mm
Head Exhaust Ports: 50mm x 30mm
SVT Intake & Exhaust Camshafts
2S7Z Valve Springs (measured at ~163lb sq/in)
YL8Z Upgraded Windage Tray and Oil Baffle
YL8Z Upgraded Oil Pump Pickup Screen
3M4Z Upgraded Oil Pan with Baffles
Enlarged (+14mm Wider) High Volume Radiator {SVT}
Water to Oil - Oil Cooler {SVT}
160 Degree Thermostat
Billet Aluminum UnderDrive Pulleys - Power Steering 19% & Alternator 13%

Drivetrain
Torsen Limited Slip Differential
SPEC Lightened Billet Aluminum Flywheel (7.9lbs)
SPEC Clutch and Upgraded Pressure Plate
All Upgraded Shifter Forks & Syncros
XS4Z Upgraded Shifter Tower
B&M Edge Short Throw Shifter (removed centering spring)
Urethane Casting (94 Shore Hardness) Filled Transmission Roll Resistors (Front & Rear)
HD GCK Axle Shafts

For a fuel rail you can use braided fuel line with Aeroquip fittings. You basically weld fittings on to the 3L fuel line and use the braided fuel line for the return line and weld the hook the other end to the return connection with the regulator on it also having a welded fitting on it to connect to. The main feed line is angled incorrectly so you'll also have to cut it and repostion it adding a few inches so the line will connect like normal.
You also need a custom EGR.

to do everything right you're looking around 15,000 dollars. so you're 7000 will never get you anywhere near that. was that the questions you were looking for? Dont say i never helped, you just needed a little roughing up. Just dont go around here tryin to flaunt like you a balla or something.

Yes svt heads will take on the 2.5 as you asked. they look like this http://www.cougardb.com/image.php?id=8661&raw=1

If you still have more questions pm these people, they have done the swap.

1) Blackcoog: 3L oval port heads ported intake to match SVT UIM and ported exhaust to match felpro gasket/SVT Cams, 19# injectors, SVT ECU, Apexi SAFC tuning, SVT UIM, SVT LIM, SVT TB, MSDS Headers, gutted main cat, Borla dual catback system, DMD, SVT radiator, SVT oil cooler, Fidanza flywheel, SVT Clutch, Quaife LSD, Updated shift forks, Updated tranny tower

2) BigBalledOX: Hybrid 3L w/PNP 2.5L heads/3L Valves/ST220 valve springs/SVT Cams, 19# injectors, SCT Chip, SVT UIM, LIM & TB, MSDS Headers, Custom Y-Pipe w/Magnaflow cat, Trubendz dual exhaust, Performance Designs Underdrive Pulleys, SVT Radiator, Centerforce Dual Friction Clutch, Fidanza Flywheel - Previously owned by CougarGT

3) DanG: Forged internal full 3L (9.5:1 Diamond Pistons and Pauter Rods), Clevite 77 Tri-Metal main and rod bearings, "Monster" Kinger F/I cut & P&P, 3L oval port intake cams, Mazda 6 exhaust cams, Garrett T3/4 60 trim .62A/R liquid intercooled ADC turbo w/water cartridge, DEI heat-wrapped pipes, TurboXS RFL BOV, Tial 60mm wastegate, SPEC Stage 3, SVT flywheel, Torsen LSD, 90A urethane solid roll restrictors, 3" exhaust, 3" hi-flow cat, 3" Borla ProXS muffler, split to a 2.5" SS Trubendz Mangaflow resonated dual exhaust, Greddy Profec-B SPEC II boost controller, Apex'i Turbo Timer.
- Previously owned by the Satan

4) PuckPuck: PuckPuck: 3L Oval Port Heads and Intake. PnP Heads, 19# Injectors, UNI-Chip ECU, Wet Nitrous System Kit (75-100 shot), SVT Focus Fuel Pump, Oil Cooler, Clevitte 77 Bearings, DMD, Fidanza Flywheel, Centerforce Clutch, Quaife LSD, Zetec Final Drive, Gutted Pre-Cats, YoDude Dual Exhaust.

5) ov3n: Hybrid 3L w/PNP 2.5L heads/3L Valves/ST220 valve springs/SVT Cams, 19# injectors, SCT Chip, SVT UIM, LIM & TB, MSDS Headers, Brullen Ypipe & High flow cat, Bassani Exhaust, SVT Radiator, Centerforce Dual Friction Clutch, Fidanza Flywheel

6) CougarBoi: Hybrid 3L w/PNP 2.5L heads/3L Valves/SVT Cams, 19# injectors, Street flight Dyno tuned chip, SVT UIM, LIM & TB, MSDS Headers, Magnaflow cat, Trubendz single flowmaster exhaust, fidanza flywheel, centerforce dual friction clutch

7) CougarRacinChic: TBA - Work In Progress

8) Tigger: TBA - Work In Progress

9) FastCougar: TBA - Work In Progress

10) Instigator: TBA - Work In Progress

11) nandalora: 3.0L w/oval port heads ported to match split-port LIM, ported exhaust to match headers, Clevite rod bearings, SVT cams, 19lb. injectors, SVT UIM, SVT LIM, SVT TB, SVT Radiator, Modine Aluminum Oil Cooler, DMD, MSDS headers, MSDS Y-pipe, Trubendz test pipe, Borla split rear catback, SCT chip, 5L8Z oil pan, Fidanza flywheel, SVT clutch, Terry Haines trans: updated forks, tower, Quaife LSD, Royal Purple oil and trans fluid

12) jaged: Full escape motor, Escape UIM/LIM, 24 lb/hr injectors. SCT chip. SVT flywheel, clutch, PP. WR Headers, custom side exhaust with borla muffler, B&M Shifter. - Previously owned by Mtang4life

13) Massiv: 3.0 L Hybrid (2004 Escape block), P&P 2.5 heads with 3L valves, ST220 springs, SVT Cams, Clevite main and rod bearings, Torsen LSD, SPEC Stage 1 Clutch and Aluminum Flywheel, 19# Injectors, ADC Chip, MSDS Headers, Max-Honed UIM, Optimized SVT TB, Magnaflow main cat, Magnaflow single exhaust, SVT Radiator

14) BobKaBob: TBA - Work In Progress

15) Rikenbomb: Hybrid 3L w/PNP 2.5L heads/3L Valves/SVT Cams/Clevite rod bearings/Upgraded piston pin bushings, 19# injectors, SVT ECU, Apexi SAFC tuning, Max-honed ST200 UIM, SVT LIM & TB, MSDS Headers, Custom 3" exhaust (hi-flow Carsound cat to the back of a 3" Borla ProXS muffler then down to 2.5" Magnaflow resonated Trubendz), DMD, SVT Radiator, Centerforce Dual Friction Clutch, Fidanza Flywheel, 3L oil cooler - Previously DanG's setup

16) 10ktgold: full 3.0 swap from a 04 escape, 99 taurus intake manifold, brazed fuel rail, 24lbs injecters, 3.0 tb, cai, gutted cats, removed silencer, flowmaster 40 series, 100shot of nitrous with a zex dry kit, remote bottle opener

17) fordrule: TBA - Work In Progress

18) Echoman: It's a 99 with a 2000 3L block, Spec stage 3 clutch, fidanza flywheel, 24# injectors, weapon R headers wrapped in copper coated fiberglass, svt cams, 2.5 p&p'd heads with uppgraded springs and 3L valves, ADC chip, high-flow cat, cold-air intake, clevite bearings, optimized TB and bored MAF housing.

and as for these... "I will not tolerate is some young punk talking crap." "Also just because you don't have the money to spend on your car, doesn't mean I don't!"... This young punk just gave you every bit of info you should need to know. And trust me... i live comfortably
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I like to be the guy initiating people, and every one gets there fair dosege so dont take it personally.
besides... *****es love me:evil:
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IH8CIVX
12-18-2005, 10:07 AM
I read it twice...can I have two bottles of Jager? :biggrin:

you gotta get down here first... If you bring that camera down here this spring for a photoshoot here in the burg ill make sure you have plenty to go home with.

mustang70
12-18-2005, 11:32 AM
Thanks for the info! I just have one more question about the heads and thats all for them. Did you need to change the intake manifold to make them fit? Nice cougar, to bad you don't have it anymore.

wadespencer99
12-18-2005, 02:04 PM
Here's what you should do. If you are wanting to turbocharge your Cougar, read all of the posts that DanG made regarding the buildup and turbocharging of his 3.0 liter engine. Follow that exactly...he did it right.

mustang70
12-18-2005, 02:06 PM
Ok, that sounds easy enough. Thanks for the help wade.

mustang70
12-18-2005, 06:32 PM
If anyone can help, i'm trying to locate a svt lower intake manifold.

Upper90
12-18-2005, 07:40 PM
You can also look for a 01-02 Lower intake manifold as those years use the same as the SVT. Also...the Taurus 3.0 throttle body is the same as the SVT one.

IH8CIVX
12-18-2005, 09:08 PM
or you could go read the 3.0L performance threads located here http://www.newcougar.org/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=57

or the 2.5's located here
http://www.newcougar.org/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=9

considering thats where all the info is already posted anyways...

mustang70
12-18-2005, 09:22 PM
Ok, thanks

wadespencer99
12-18-2005, 09:32 PM
Actually, any lower intake manifold from a Cougar produced after 5/99 is the same bore spec as an SVT LIM.

Upper90
12-18-2005, 10:07 PM
Details, details. Geez wade.... LOL

wadespencer99
12-18-2005, 10:19 PM
Nice Visteon Keith.

I went ahead and photoshopped that back together for ya...lol


http://www.newcougar.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=21815&d=1134958746

mustang70
12-19-2005, 09:24 AM
Thanks, for all this help.

Upper90
12-19-2005, 09:36 AM
Nice Visteon Keith.

I went ahead and photoshopped that back together for ya...lol


http://www.newcougar.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=21815&d=1134958746

:rofl: :beer: niceone!!! you have too much time on your hands

wadespencer99
12-19-2005, 10:57 AM
:rofl: :beer: niceone!!! you have too much time on your hands


LOL....let's see

10 seconds to open photoshop
20 seconds to put the visteon back together
10 seconds to save and upload to my web server
10 seconds to make the post about it


Yeah...you're lucky I could spare you that 50 seconds...:rofl:

mustang70
12-19-2005, 11:18 AM
Ok, all I need to do is purchase a svt lower intake manifold and got my car back from my buddies body shop, then I can start building the motor. Thanks to everybody who gave me help!

YOSLVR442
12-19-2005, 01:45 PM
no problem man, glad we could all help ya out!!

mustang70
12-19-2005, 02:26 PM
Ok I am having a problem trying to find a lower intake manifold for sale, any ideas where to look?(svt)

wadespencer99
12-19-2005, 02:30 PM
Just out of curiosity, what is the build date on your car?

mustang70
12-19-2005, 02:43 PM
Its before 5/99 if thats what you are wondering. I bought the car brand new in feb. of 1999.

cvsmightymouse24
12-19-2005, 03:37 PM
check ebay, junkyards, and in the group buy section. If you can't find one you can always get it honed out to the svt spec. If you have any questions hit the search button type "Extrude Honed" and READ!

Upper90
12-19-2005, 03:45 PM
The site I sent you too before...Bat Inc http://www.batinc.net

has them...$700 bucks though...but they have them.

Next question for us to answer?

mustang70
12-19-2005, 04:04 PM
Thats all I needed to know, and once again thanks for all this help! I mean it!


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