Help with 3.0L ?

[nandalora]

Would anyone in the area be interested in helping me with my 3.0L project? I will need someone to help me dissassemble and remove my 2.5L. Also someone who can help assemble/set timing and install the 3.0L. I will pay if neccesary and I live in Clarkston, MI 48348 (about 1 hr north of Detroit). Hoping to do this in the next month or two, maybe have it done in two weekends time?

Thanks,
Nick

[EternalOne]

I'm not the best wrench-turner on here, that's for sure, but I'm down to stop over and help out where I can... Just gonna need someone with a bit more mech. experience there, too...

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[Excelcier]

Puckpuck is in Windsor and he's done it before.

[CougarGuy1802]

im certified in engine repair and maybe engine performance( ill know whenever i get my results back), im pretty handy with a wrench if u want another hand.

[EternalOne]

Yeah, but Puck also works all the time, and has a baby at home. I think you'd be hard pressed to drag him away from his limited freetime. ;)

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[nandalora]

Originally posted by: EternalOne
I'm not the best wrench-turner on here, that's for sure, but I'm down to stop over and help out where I can... Just gonna need someone with a bit more mech. experience there, too...

Originally posted by: CougarGuy1802
im certified in engine repair and maybe engine performance( ill know whenever i get my results back), im pretty handy with a wrench if u want another hand.

Wow! thanks alot guys. I'm glad to know there are people out there that would be willing to help me. I want to do this soooo bad, but I am just scared to do it myself. I'm usually pretty fearless with a wrench, but there's a difference between fearless and stupid. So I know when I'm in over my head. Anyway, when I get this going, probably next few weeks, I'll let you guys know.

Thanks again,
Nick

[jrak123]

I can give you a hand I live in waterfod and I love working on cars on the weekends when I don't have my daughter. I used to work at Mclaren in Livonia and I have a ton of knowledge of building duratech's

[jrak123]

Hey tell ya what, if you are atleast 21 I work at OVERTYME grill and tap room on the weekends I am a bouncer my name is Jason come on up and I will buy you a beer and we can chat about your car. I start at 9, but remember you gotta be 21. If you aren't I will still give you a hand though.

[Jorgen]

if you do it on a weekend when I am in town (auburn Hills) I would be happy to stop by but never done a 3.0 swap so I will be useless on the knowledge end but on the helping with stuff not crucial I can do that... You doing this in a heated garage? Yeah I know pussy whatever but [censored] I have done engine swaps and rebuilds in the dead of winter and swore I woudl never do it again. Once you have a wrench slip and yoru frozen ass hand punches the block you will understand why...

[RiverRojo]

If I have enough notice, I can come on a weekend day. Otherwise, I'm always avail after 5 on saturdays from my wrenching job. I've got any tool you need also.

[PuckPuck]

Yeah my time is fairly limited.

Although i have been working local for the past while, and it should stay like that from here on out, save a small 2-3 day trip every month or so....

with that being said, come spring time, i'll be more involved, but it won't be to the level i was before the big job and baby.... so expect me to help out here and there, and of course i can help over the phone if you are clueless about something..... 519-551-1001 is my number should you have a question.....


-Puck

[EternalOne]

Hey man, glad to hear you're on the road less! That has GOT to make things easier for ya...

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[exigent]

Sounds to me like everyone is jones'n for a mod meet :)

Im thinking once it gets nice out Ill have a bbq and have you guys over. Havnt seen most of ya in a LONG time... heck half of ya prolly dont even know me :)

[CougarGuy1802]

im down for a mod meet or anything really, iv noticed their really isnt a whole lot of excitment on these boards though, as compared to CEG.

[EternalOne]

I'm down for another meet, too. I haven't seen the MC people since CF.

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[jrak123]

Exigent, Another one local to me I live the area and Like I have mentioned to Nick, I am always happy to help out and also I work at Overtyme on the weekends and Tuesday nights if you are at least 21 come on up and I would be happy to but a fellow cougar owner a beer. Nick, if you want being a minor and all you can come up on a Tuesday. If any of you have been into overtyme and I have thrown you out well I guess you should have told me you drive a cougar ;) I am the tall bald bouncer.

Jason

[nandalora]

Thank you all for the support! This adds to my confidence in this project greatly. I'll be buying an engine this week and might pull my current engine as soon as this weekend.

Thanks a ton!
Nick

[jrak123]

Well My daughter is going to be in Traverse City this weekend at her TKD tournament so I will be open to lend a hand pulling the engine with ya.Give me a ring 248-891-5410. If you need tools let me know I can bing some of mine along. I also hae access to a cherry picker if we need it.

Jason

[nandalora]

Originally posted by: jrak123
Well My daughter is going to be in Traverse City this weekend at her TKD tournament so I will be open to lend a hand pulling the engine with ya.Give me a ring 248-891-5410. If you need tools let me know I can bing some of mine along. I also hae access to a cherry picker if we need it.

Jason

Great...... more likely than not I'll attempt to pull it this weekend, so if you can help that'd be great! And everyone else is welcome to come over too. I'll post on here, this week, when exactly I'm doing it. By the way I have a 1 ton chain driven winch attached to the I-beam in my garage, so I don't think I'll need the cherry picker. Do you guys think I'll need anything else?

Thanks,
Nick

[jrak123]

A torch and a big hammer always helps. If there is any essential tools needed I should have them at my dads house where I store my tool box.
Just give me a call and we will hook up a time. I am an early bird so don't worryt about waking me up.

Jason

[EternalOne]

This coming weekend is bad for me (its my Daddy-weekend). But if it gets pushed off at all, I'll be there...

E1

[nandalora]

Originally posted by: EternalOne
This coming weekend is bad for me (its my Daddy-weekend). But if it gets pushed off at all, I'll be there...

E1

I'm glad you'll be able to help out even if you can't this weekend, don't worry there will be plenty more to do in the following weeks. I'm also glad to have a 3.0L Cougar owner who can help out.

Thanks again,
Nick

[nandalora]

OK.... I will attemp to pull my engine this weekend. I will start on Friday (basic stuff) and hope to have it out late Sat. or midday Sun. Anyone who can help out, let me know, PM or call my cell: (248)840-6087. I've got all basic hand tools and many air tools, if anyone thinks I need more or some specialty tools let me know asap. Also where can I get the Ford CD/DVD that everyone talks about?

Thanks,
Nick

[jrak123]

I'll be there man, bee looking forward to getting my hands dirty.

[nandalora]

Originally posted by: jrak123
............ bee looking forward to getting my hands dirty.

Meeeee too! :thumbsup: Anyone else?

Thanks,
Nick

[EternalOne]

I'm daddy this weekend, and the Daytona 500 party is Sunday, but if you've still got things to do next weekend, I am there dude...

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[nandalora]

Don't worry I'll have stuff for next week too. I'll probably be building up the 3.0L- porting heads, upgrading rod bearings, swapping cams, installing LSD, etc. Do you guys think I could install ST200 spring myself or with some help? Or would I have to bring the heads to Ford?

Thanks,
Nick

[jrak123]

I have an air powered spring compressor I can bring home from wirk with the special attachment made just for those valve springs

[jrak123]

Hmm I may just have to go in on this one, Nick check out this deal in group buys http://www.fastcougar.com/forums/messageview.cfm?catid=15&threadid=116677 I may be willing to go in on this one when you get the money for yours.

[nandalora]

Originally posted by: jrak123
Hmm I may just have to go in on this one, Nick check out this deal in group buys http://www.fastcougar.com/forums/messageview.cfm?catid=15&threadid=116677 I may be willing to go in on this one when you get the money for yours.

Let's do it man! I'm totally in, this couldn't have come at a better time! I'll find out when I'd have to order them to get them by Mar. 4th (3.0L day!) When I find out, we can order. Maybe as early as this coming week!

Keep in touch,
Nick

[EternalOne]

I got me a set of the 3.0L headers from em, too. I'm a little worried, so I have to talk to Buckshot again, because when I showed up at SpringZing (Contour's version of CF) Rick was under his car talking about how his headers just split wide open, and forced him to park the s/c'd 3L the rest of the time. I'd hate to see any of ours do that. I will find out which headers he had at the time, and what the actual problem was.

Other than that, I'm there next weekend man. =)

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[jrak123]

Yeah I am looking forward to getting the headers, I am talking to a guy about some z3 fenders and I am going to order up my monza exhaust. You mised out on the fun last night eternal me and Nick started the tear out on his 2.5

[Jorgen]

Originally posted by: jrak123
Yeah I am looking forward to getting the headers, I am talking to a guy about some z3 fenders and I am going to order up my monza exhaust. You mised out on the fun last night eternal me and Nick started the tear out on his 2.5

you are droppping that much on headers and are gunna buy a MONZA not a truebendz?

[jrak123]

Yeah I like the look of the monza it is a dual exit with 2.5" tubing, I think that should be good'nuff, why? you know something about the monza system that I don't?

[Jorgen]

always seems like a hit or miss system and kinda cheaply built in most cases. some people talk bad about theirs some people love theirs... Guess it is basicly an item of thought if it is worth the extra money for a TB or something like that, But I have to say i love my TB wouldn't trade it for anythign...

[nandalora]

Originally posted by: EternalOne
I got me a set of the 3.0L headers from em, too.
Other than that, I'm there next weekend man. =)

E1

Why did you buy 3.0L headers? What's the difference of the 3.0L set vs. 2.5L set, besides the obvious EGR location? Anyway, glad to hear that you'll make it out next weekend. I should have most of the parts by then and you can assist me in installing them, you'll probably know a few things I don't too. I'll probably do the port matching too, next weekend!

Later,
Nick

[EternalOne]

Why did you buy 3.0L headers?

For starters the engine only had gutted-precats on it when purchased from Jesse (Kinger), and Buckshot recommended we go with the 3L headers like he has on his s/c'd 3L. (The two setups are almost identical, one Cougar, one Contour, tho.)


you'll probably know a few things I don't too

Don't count on it. ;) But if I don't know something, I have the phone numbers of the people who do. =)

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[nandalora]

Originally posted by: EternalOne For starters the engine only had gutted-precats on it when purchased from Jesse (Kinger), and Buckshot recommended we go with the 3L headers like he has on his s/c'd 3L. (The two setups are almost identical, one Cougar, one Contour, tho.)

E1

But why did he recommend the 3.0L headers are they different than the 2.5L, like in size or something? Does the 3.0L have larger exhaust ports?

Thanks,
Nick

[EternalOne]

Ah, heh, missed that part... ;) Yeah, from what I remember (and I could be wrong here) the 2.5L MSDS headers won't work on the 3.0L, and Buckshot actually had to get a custom set from them. (Which is where the 3.0L headers came from.)

I have a 2.5" Trubendz exhaust w/ Weapon-R muffler that I'll be selling shortly, myself. I'm going with a custom built 3" exhaust w/ duals. (I bought the Trubendz exhaust before I got the 3.0.)

E1

[nandalora]

Just to keep you guys updated, Jason and I got the motor and trans out today! Tomorrow we'll dissasemble the pieces that are going on the 3.0L and I'll make a final list of parts. Here's my parts list, what do you think?

3.0L SWAP PARTS

BAT INC. (941) 355-0005

K15N Water Outlet Gasket $6.25
K15J Front Timing Cover Set $11.50
K2D Head Bolt Set $24.00 x 2= $48.00
K2S Torco Synthetic MTF (quart) $12.95 x 3= $38.85
K550AK C.V. Boot Kit -Inner $9.50 x 2= $19.00
H710T Torsen Differential MTX75 $599.00
H721 Differential Bearing (each) $18.50 x 2= $37.00

FORD PARTS ONLINE (866)-941-FORD

F5RZ-17285-AA MTX-75 Speedo Gear $7.97
XS8Z-7230-DD 1-2 Shifter Fork, Roller Bearings $22.69
YS2Z-7230-BA 5-R Shifter Fork, Revised $26.17
YS4Z-7230-AD 3-4 Shifter Fork, Modified Oil Scraper $22.45
YS4Z-7K453-FA Shifter Retaining Clip 8.59
XS4Z-7201-CD Upgraded Shifter Tower (03+) $134.19
CLUTCH DISC, 2.5L, w/SVT Package $78.56 + $7.00 core= $85.56
PRESSURE PLATE, 2.5L, w/SVT Package $80.88 + $15.00 core= $95.88
RELEASE FORK $35.24
SLAVE CYLINDER, 2.5L $73.17
F3LY-6214-A Connecting Rod Bolts $1.81 x 12= $21.72
F5RZ-6584-B 2.5 Right Valve Cover Gasket $10.78
F5RZ-6584-C 2.5 Left Valve Cover Gasket $9.47
YL8Z-6622-BA 01+ Upgraded Windage Tray $25.99
YL8Z-6687-AA 01+ Upgraded Oil Pickup $16.55
5L8Z-6675-AA Upgraded Oil Pan Set $113.57
RADIATOR, 2.5L, Manual Trans, w/SVT Package $193.01


MISCELANEOUS

ADC- CUSTOM TUNED CHIP $375.00
EBAY- FIDANZA FLYWHEEL $319.99
GROUPBUY- MSDS HEADERS W/CERAMIC COATING $647.00
???- SVT OIL COOLER

[Jorgen]

not bad...
sorry I didn't make it today Nick got roped into trying to help my roommated get his Scirocco fixed up and running again...

[EternalOne]

Nice man. Did you think of sending your tranny off to Terry instead of doing all of that yourself? He's got some upgrades for the MTX75 that only he provides, and with as much as your doing with the tranny, it might be nice to have the guy who helped build it looking it over... ;) Plus, he gets MUCH better deals on the tranny parts than you'll be able to get, which will help offset the labor costs. Just a suggestion, if you've got the cash for it, as you can get VERY carried away with all of the options he has available now. =)

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[nandalora]

Originally posted by: EternalOne
Nice man. Did you think of sending your tranny off to Terry instead of doing all of that yourself? He's got some upgrades for the MTX75 that only he provides, and with as much as your doing with the tranny, it might be nice to have the guy who helped build it looking it over... ;) Plus, he gets MUCH better deals on the tranny parts than you'll be able to get, which will help offset the labor costs. Just a suggestion, if you've got the cash for it, as you can get VERY carried away with all of the options he has available now. =)

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How can I get intouch with him?

Thanks,
Nick

[jrak123]

http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/jrak123/my_photos

check out the pics of Nick's Cougar first half of the heart transplant

[EternalOne]

How can I get intouch with him?

Ask and you shall recieve:

Website: http://www.hainesmotorsports.net/ (Its not complete, but bookmark it for later.)

Email: kogboxking@hainesmotorsports.net...for trans info etc
services@hainesmotorsports.net...for all other sevices except transmissions.
info@hainesmotorsports.net...the 'catch all' for questions.

Forum: http://www.fordcontour.org/forum/index.php?showforum=15

And man guys, the pics look great. Good work there. I'm still on (as long as the weather holds out) for next weekend! I'll get in touch with one of ya'll when it gets a bit closer, so I can get directions, etc...

E1

[nandalora]

Thanks! Just sent him an email, we'll see what he says. About the pics, it was ton of fun pulling that big motor out of that little car. It'll be even more fun drop'n that bigger (on the inside) motor in. :evil:
Hopefully that weather isn't so crappy next weekend, who knows, but Hopefully!

Thanks,
Nick

[Jorgen]

got any plans to work this weekend?

[EternalOne]

Yeah, I'm free, then we could all head to Puck's birthday bash!

E1

[nandalora]

Yea, I've got big plans for this weekend and any help would be greatly appreciated! I'll start tearing down the 3.0L tonight and have it appart by Friday. Then I need to start port-matching the heads. Early Saturday morning, I'm bringing my trans up to Terry Haines to work on.:cool:
This weekend I hope to have the porting done, the cams in and assembled, and any prep. to the block & heads complete. Do you guys think that's realistic?
Also, would the timing chains from my 2.5L fit the SVT Cams? They seemed to match during my lame attempt to test fit.

Thanks,
Nick

[CougarGuy1802]

yea, im quite sure they should.

[EternalOne]

Early Saturday morning, I'm bringing my trans up to Terry Haines to work on

Sweet! What options did you decide to go with from him, or haven't you decided quite yet?

I'm busy tonite, the chick wants to "spend time together", so I'm gonna go get drunk someplace. :P But I'll be available tomorrow any time mane, if you still want help. Might just be easier for me to toss some clothes in the car and make a day-trip out of it, since Puck's b-day party is tomorrow nite, too... (It might be best for me to grab a hotel, if I'm gonna be drinkin, heh...)

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[nandalora]

I'll be getting a thorough disassembly, inspection and cleaning of all parts. Installation of Ford updated forks, shift tower, and any needed syncros/blocks. And. of course, a limited slip diff! not sure which one though (Quaife/torsen)? Too bad I couldn't afford the slick shift kit, but I think I'll be plenty happy with what I'm getting. So do you want to come help me out for a little while tomorrow? Maybe we can hang out for a couple hours then you can head over to Puck's party. Then maybe come over Sat. on your way back? Let me know, I'll be working on it everyday.

Thanks,
nick

[nandalora]

Installing engine this week/end anyone want to help/watch???

Thanks,
Nick

[EternalOne]

As long as the weather and my car cooperates I'll be able to stop by. I was hoping to head to the LAN party anyways, so that'd give me something to do during the day. =) I'll post if something comes up, tho...

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[jrak123]

Well Nick, sorry about yesterday. I didn't get out of work until 7 last night and I had to put the tank back in my brothers car and then go to the bar. Tonight I don't care who calls and who needs what I will be there. I am getting sick of pushing your project back.

[EternalOne]

Got some dirs to yer place for me? I'm up for Saturday afternoonish.

E1

[nandalora]

Here's some Directions (http://www.mapquest.com/directions/main.adp?go=1&do=nw&un=m&cl=EN&ct=NA&rsres=1&1y=US&1a=&1c=jackson&1s=MI&1z=&1ah=&2y=US&2a=&2c=&2s=&2z=&2ah=VZgqcDoYCc9UTBLiMSGjMiFQZoADfYqk3xp%252b%252b% 252fTT6zTogXaFIIkbrVmkQ1czwN%252fDCiMRTKeD92JGVc63 B1cLd6gno6HwxigSkI7woQepojkS7bfPGu%252bUbdegUbIv6D AQ). It's said it'll take about an hour and a half. I'll post tomorrow to let you know that I'll be working on it.

Thanks,
Nick

[EternalOne]

With the looks of things outside, I won't be making the drive. My car doesn't like snow, and 1 1/2 hrs in it doesn't sound fun... And I was hoping to have some fun with the new x800 at the lan party later on tomorrow, too. =(

E1

[nandalora]

That's ok, I looked outside this morning and wanted to kill mother nature! Anyway, maybe you can make it out next week for the, hopeful, unvailing!

-Nick

[EternalOne]

Yah, at the very least I'll be at Brad's for the meet... I simply cannot believe its still snowing tho, I never remember it snowing this late in the year...

E1

[nandalora]

Well I won't have the car ready for the meet, but it should be done this time next week.

-Nick

[nandalora]

Finally! I'm finishing the car this week. I have all the parts except my MSDS headers, getting them tomorrow, but I'm finishing the polishing on the heads tonight and I've already done everything else:

- replaced rod bearings with Clevite tri-metals
- cleaned block
- cut knotch off block and head
- ported 3.0L heads
- replaced oil pressure sensor with 2.5L sensor
- cleaned all parts: timing cover, valve covers, timing components, accesories, etc.
- powdercoated valve covers (gloss black)
- optimized LIM
- powdercoated MAF and intake piping (MAF- almost chrome & piping- gloss black)
- got trans back from Terry Haines (updated forks & tower, Quaife LSD, cleaned, lubed and painted)
- ADC custom tuned chip
- MSDS headers & y-pipe (Xtreme coating)
- SVT radiator
- SVT oil cooler

That's it, will be done and on the road Saturday! First 100mi break-in: oil & filter change, then 300mi break-in: oil, filter & trans fluid change, Then new Royal Purple oil, Mobile 1 filter and Royal Purple Syncromax Trans fluid. (break-in with conventional 5W-30 motor oil and Royal Purple Syncromax trans fluid)

Can't wait to open her up in 500 miles! :evil:

- Nick

[Zalec]

wanna race?

[Smitty2430]

Hey man if you need to eat up some of those miles you should make the trek up to Davison so I can see all of your new goodies. I definately want a ride after the 500 mile mark!

Jeremy

[nandalora]

Well, Jason and I got it running! Last night- it started up no prob! Anyway I can't wait to drive it today and start the break-in.

Jeremy- I'll definitely make it out your way soon, maybe this weekend? The Cougar doesn't really look different, but it sounds different and will hopefully be a ton faster.

Zalec- I don't even know you, nor can I find anything out about you (you're MC-NECO page is useless!) Anyway I don't condone racing, however everyone enjoys a win so look me up in a couple weeks. 'till then update that MC-NECO page!

Thanks,
Nick :thumbsup:

[Smitty2430]

Just PM, email me, or call my cell on when you want to meet up. Dont worry about looks cause mine needs to be repainted and I cracked one my razzi sides last weekend. It just gives me any excuse to buy new ones! I'm thinking either roush or WW. What do you think?

Jeremy

[nandalora]

Drove the car and it's awsome, although a little clutch chatter and diff chatter, but the car has way more thrust all the time. Haven't brought it over 4000 rpm yet and won't until I hit 500 mile on it.

I love the Roush styling. I'd go with that for sure, it follow the line of our car the best.

Nick