diable the vct

[pythagoras]

ok what part exactly do i need to buy to disable the vct.
check zx tuner but wasent sure which part it was.


going to swap out the head and cam's // for ported intake and exhaust
what the pos and cons of regrinding the exhaust cams or gettin new ones
guy mentioned elsinger something in refrence to exhaust cams.


proably end up pulling the cougar heads swapping for focus heads and cams. and disabling the vct all to gether. I know i need to burn a custom chip to get ride of the code the engine throws for the vct, and ill proably get the chip to clear up this and what ever code comes up for the headers when there ready. Should see 30 hp from this mod.

But im really want some info on the exhaust cams . I'll search later cause ive read some post about it before.

[diddy]

why would u want to swap our cams and heads with the focus ones? just get aftermarket. there is a piece on zxtuner that is a vct cam adapter. it will disable the vct but you will throw a cel. id say, for not, just get the intake cam and cam gear. getting into the vct is a biatch

[Ness1216]

Originally posted by: pythagoras
ok what part exactly do i need to buy to disable the vct.
check zx tuner but wasent sure which part it was.


going to swap out the head and cam's // for ported intake and exhaust
what the pos and cons of regrinding the exhaust cams or gettin new ones
guy mentioned elsinger something in refrence to exhaust cams.


proably end up pulling the cougar heads swapping for focus heads and cams. and disabling the vct all to gether. I know i need to burn a custom chip to get ride of the code the engine throws for the vct, and ill proably get the chip to clear up this and what ever code comes up for the headers when there ready. Should see 30 hp from this mod.

But im really want some info on the exhaust cams . I'll search later cause ive read some post about it before.


30hp from focus crap?!?!
Could be possible i guess with ported and polished head and cams. But I still doubt it.
Biggest restriction is your exhaust manifold.
As far as Focus head I dont even think it will bolt up.
And there really arent any pros of getting rid of vct. Its on the exhaust cam which there isnt too much power to come from there even with a better cam.

[Seawulf]

Getting rid of VCT and tuning both cams with cam gears will give you more power than stock or than just tuning the intake gear, it's almost guaranteed. It could give you 15hp more, or it could give you 5, depends on how off your stock cam timing is, and zetecs usually have at least some play in the cam timing. Remember, VCT is an emissions thing, while the pros of getting rid of it aren't huge, they are there and you'll see more power with both gears tuned than just one.

If you want to getrid of the VCT you need the VCT adapter and bolt from zxtuner.com. And then of course both cam gears. You'll also need the cam lock tool or a file that fits real snugly between the cams and the head. Go to sport compact car magzine online, then go to their project car section, they have a cam gear install for a Focus that shows how to install cam gears, the install is the same as ours except fot the VCT, but that's real streight foward.

I don't think the Focus head will bolt up. I believe some of the oil and water holes don't line up so you can't use it. For cams you aught to look into the Escort sites. You can, I think, swap a older Contour head, pre-98s also had no VCT. And depending on what kind of mods you'll eventually do, new cams might not be needed. TurboTom, probably the best zetec tuner in the U.S., is doing 400+whp on STOCK Focus cams, and our stock cams are slightly better than the Focus. He said he's tried different cams but the gains weren't worth the install time and cost, he said just tune the stock cams with adjustible gears.

You might see 30hp from tuned gears, burned custom chip for premium fuel, race header & exhaust, intake, but odds are you'll only see around 20hp more, but you'll defenitley see at least 20hp from those mods. Port and Polish, though is the best thing you can do, especially if it's professionally done and you get a valve job and install bigger valves. Personally though I would only have it done by someone who has extensive zetec experience and the only place I know of is TurboTom's shop. He does do a nice head package, but it wil cost ya. If you're really serious and you've got the cash, give him a shout.

[pythagoras]

ya it will be profesionally ported

they told me it would be easier to swap out the head completly due to the vct. time wise
they said there would be no porblems mating the focus head with the engine block. There the pros so i'll leave it to them.

but if i keep my old head its gonna cost way more. also mentioned that reginding the exhaust cams might infact hinder perfomance after a certain point. Is it just better to get new slightly bigger exhaust cams. according to these guys new cam's intake/ exhaust ported heads, cam gear should net me 25 hp for a little under 2 grand including labor and core charges.

so seawulf i need to get 3 peice to disable the vct.


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ya cams for a focus but the shop does custom grinds. aftermarket stuff not stock. I'm thinking stage 2 cams 1700 rpm / 8000 rpm

[Ness1216]

Not trying to be a pain in the ass or anything but Im gonna point to this thread


He said they wont bolt up, I'm going to take his word for it and trust him on that. On focaljet.com you can get a hold of him his name is turbotom and he knows an infinite bunch about zetecs.


Other thread (fixed) (http://www.fastcougar.com/forums/messageview.cfm?catid=48&threadid=87269)

[pythagoras]

dead link
what about these (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=33617&item=7904749652)


i might get this and use it for the core exchange but the way this guy posted it seems to emcompass the cougar as well.

[Seawulf]

I said I don't think the head will bolt up, but I just did a search on the Contour forums and they said it would, it's the SVT Focus head that won't bolt up. Ultimately I'm not big on NA upgrades, so I don't know much about that stuff. You might want to join the Contour forums, their Zetec section has more info than ours. But again, stock for stock, Cougar cams are slightly better than Focus cams, at least on the exhaust side, the VCT enables a slightly advanced grind than the Focus. Personally, though, I just don't like the idea of swapping heads for anoter Zetec, cause basically their all the same.

The main question is, who are those shop guys, and how much Zetec experience do they have?

[pythagoras]

seawulf
30 years experience in refrence to cutsom cams. Im asuming they now the inner working of the zetec. cant really know one and not the other. its called marcy motor sports and it's fairly local for me.
I been in and out of motors since i was knee high. If you want good numbers you got to start from the ground up. and them move on to turbos and super chargers/ nos. prep prep prep
dont want my engine to crap out on me after all the $ im planning on spending on it.

[Ness1216]

ahh you dindt mention it was marcy motorsports. They know what they are doing, hopefully all will turn out good, good luck. BTW if you didnt know, zxtuner.com sells cams for us.

[HKSCougar]

Let me clarify - not just "cams for us" but actual intake cams of a few different grinds as well as a more agressive VCT cam! Bolts right in and no need to remove the VCT. I'd say a good street port & polish job, good valves/springs/retainers and the regound Esslinger cams would net you all the NA performance you'd need for a daily driver Zetec VCT car. And look into a cat-back exhaust, 4-2-1 headers, a gutted intake manifold and larger throttle body. You may also want to get some slightly larger injectors & better plugs/plug wires for the setup, but I bet - properly tuned - you'd put down some impressive numbers for an NA motor.

[pythagoras]

why wont the focus svt head work its still a 2.0 L zetec

or are the svt the new 2.3L duratec that are going in focus now.

that would be sweet if you could take some parts for the svt (they have a VCT also) focus and use them with the cougar .