FastestCougar is Fraud!

[Dante]

Okay, Back on 9/8/2003, FastestCougar aka Eric Lee was trying to sell 2 JL w7 subs and a 1000.1 JL Amp. I had contacted a friend who was interested in getting these subs and amp and she had offered him $1,260 shipped for the lot. Eric wanted a money order so Beth(my friend) sent him a cashiers check through her bank in the amount of $1,260 dollars. On 9/29/03, she contacted me telling me she had not recieved a thing so I tried to contact Eric and he would not respond. She was given his phone number, and she attempted to call him but he did not pick up at all. It is now January of 2004, and she is down $1,260. The only contact she got was from someone supposely dating Eric at the time which was on AOL, and that she told her that Eric had ran away. Anyways, the last time he came on was 11/16/03 so I'm guessing he is still around. Anyways, I'm looking for feedback on what to do. I want to make sure she gets her money back and that this guy has the punishment that is necessary coming to him. He is located in Philidelphia and I will be posting his address and phone info later tonight when I recieve it. Thanks!

[01blkcat]

Call the police - easiest way to start the ball rolling.

[Fett]

And hope to hell you still have the money order stub. Money orders have a tracable number on it, kind of like a routing number on a check....that will come in handy.

[CBG]

Originally posted by: Fett
And hope to hell you still have the money order stub. Money orders have a tracable number on it, kind of like a routing number on a check....that will come in handy.

they bought a cashiers check, which is better cuz its literally a bank check, and they ARE logged to track their own funds

[Dante]

Well, It appears he changed email and his phone has been disconnected. What should I do now? Should I have her contact her bank about this issue? She got a fax that her check was cashed and it shows his signature and all that, Any possible way this would show his address, etc.

[naynay]

He has commited a Felony....Call the police now! When you steal over 350 dollars its considered a Felony.

Good Luck!!

[Dante]

Well, Problem is that she has lost his address. So, at this point, all we have is a name, which might be fake. His phone has been disconnected. So, Can we do anything? Also, Should I contact my local police or the Philadelphia police. Thanks.

[starshower]

just contact your local, they will redirect you if nec.....suggest to your friend that ESCROW is a great idea, especially when you're talking about that much cash. not smart to just go ahead and trust someone you don't know with so much $$. not smart. good luck w/ everyting

[koreanboi121]

good luck, but since he changed his name and phone # you might never see that money again. I hate how online frauds happen, someone needs to make a company that straight deals with the problems of selling, I mean escrow is good, but there needs to be a 'secure' site. Im tired of seeing people get ripped off from ebay and on these forums as well. sorry it happened to you but you might never see that 1260 again =[. I lost a notebook on ebay for 1700. nothing i could do because its overseas but they are in philadelphia so you might have more options.


good luck

[CBG]

go to your bank, pull up and get a copy of the cashiers check. he had to have done one of two things with it, cash it or deposit it, eithe way, they can trace what bank he did the action at. have your bank call that bank and explain the situation. the person MUST have an account at the bank to cash such a large check unless the bank was the same bank from which the cashierscheck derived. If this is the case, they HAD to have documented his I.D. on the check, and bingo, you the bank will have his id # from his account or from the check and you can track his ass

[gyger]

you have PM Dante

[EricF]

Correction for those who need to know over $1000 is grand theft... under it is considered petty theft.
Eitherway, if it was interstate, its fraud... I'm looking into this just slightly..to see if I can help

[Dante]

Well, Tommorow I'll be going to my friend's Beth's bank and seeing what my options are. Thanks for everyone's help.

[Xeks]

also since he sold it over the internet that has some new laws tacked on to his growing list of charges. please for all that is good and decent stop whatever your doing and call a detective about this and have charges brought against this guy. reguardless if he changed his address,phone #,name or whatever he is still the same person who deserves prosecution. if you get a detective involved they will do the footwork and track him down and go from there. good luck, just please call as soon as possible.

[ZEXCougar]

Originally posted by: Xeks
if you get a detective involved they will do the footwork and track him down and go from there. good luck, just please call as soon as possible.

:rofl: No they wont! All they will do is issue a warrant. Then you have to wait forever until he gets pulled over.

[Zalec]

update ed.... update?

[CatWoman26]

perhaps u should contact the owner of THIS site to track this guys IP address. The IP address is like a persons fingerprint and can easily trace the person. Law enforcements usually use this tactic to track down pedphiles on the net. Good luck. Hope this helps

[Teflonworm]

Because its not as fun and easy as ya think to track down someone using AOL, cause it's a dynamic IP address and not static like a cable modem line etc... least as far as my limited understanding is

so if you'd like this guys fingerprints....here you go I found 3 posts with 3 IP's:
205.188.209.51
64.12.96.168
152.163.252.200


Also, checking his profile, seems he was last on January 14, 2004 so hes still watching. Good luck

[Dante]

I've come up with an address. Philadelphia police have been notified. If FastestCougar is reading this, respond to my PM if you want to sort this out without going to court and/or getting jail time.

[01blkcat]

He was just on the boards, 1/19/04, at about 11am... he's still here, but changed his name in his profile to 'John Smith' and I'm willing to bet that his email listed isn't valid, either. He's reading it...

[ignernt]

John Smith? What a :loser:

[Prez]

Originally posted by: Dante
I've come up with an address. Philadelphia police have been notified. If FastestCougar is reading this, respond to my PM if you want to sort this out without going to court and/or getting jail time.

SCREW that man, he had his chance. FRY HIS AZZ!

[EternalOne]

Because its not as fun and easy as ya think to track down someone using AOL, cause it's a dynamic IP address and not static like a cable modem line etc... least as far as my limited understanding is

Actually its easier than you think. You provide IP Address and timestamps to the authorities, they then use this information to secure a warrant under the Patriot Act for the account holders information that was logged into that IP Address at that time of day. (ISP's are required by law to maintain records of this information for 2 years.) I worked Gov't Network Security for years, both while in the Marines, and while working for Symantec, and this is common, especially since the Patriot Act. This is wire-fraud, and also may fall under interstate trafficking laws.

E1

[EricF]

Excellent... call the police bury this kid....

Yes and his other apparent alias 02cougarkid is also John Smith.

[gyger]

I was wondering what happened with this?
When I first heard about it, it really pissed me off and I PM'd him
he responded:
Me: I was just trying to get you to reply to me. Why haven't you sent Beth her Subs she paid you along
time ago. Please just send her the subs man

Him:i dont know who you are and why everyone is bothering me what is going on>?

So I linked him to this thread.
Now 02cougakid just sent me a PM something about fog lights for his Extreme front end. I checked his profile and
he has his name as John Smith. Is it the same kid?
I'm not sure what good this will do just want everyone to know.

Later
me

[CBG]

im not soo sure about 02cougarkid being fastestcougar, i do, however, think that 02cougarkid is rlh34

[01blkcat]

rlh whatever is clearly on the boards under more than one name, not sure if this 'fastestcougar' is linked to anyone, though...

[billet350]

we have spy's on the forums,, thats what it is :rofl:

if u r reading this fastestcougar,, quit being a poor f***er and do what is damn right

i would be pissed if u did this to me,, i would find out where u lived and kick ur a$$

edit: also the last time he visited was on the 21st of january.. Did he pm u or if not is he in alot of trouble with the cops.. Lawsuit time

[Zalec]

Originally posted by: Teflonworm

so if you'd like this guys fingerprints....here you go I found 3 posts with 3 IP's:
64.12.96.168




i believe thas comcast. when i get a chance I will run it for u Ed.

[01blkcat]

Nope, that IP is AOL:

OrgName: America Online, Inc.
OrgID: AMERIC-158
Address: 10600 Infantry Ridge Road
City: Manassas
StateProv: VA
PostalCode: 20109
Country: US

NetRange: 64.12.0.0 - 64.12.255.255
CIDR: 64.12.0.0/16
NetName: AOL-MTC
NetHandle: NET-64-12-0-0-1
Parent: NET-64-0-0-0-0
NetType: Direct Assignment
NameServer: DNS-01.NS.AOL.COM
NameServer: DNS-02.NS.AOL.COM
Comment:
RegDate: 1999-12-13
Updated: 1999-12-16

[Dante]

The kid has started PMing me. He says he sent the subs and amp USPS with no delivery confirmation or anything. He has now agreed to send two new subs and amp that are equavilent or better then the ones my friend paid for. This is his last chance to come clean out of this, if he doesn't send the items, I will take him to court, no questions asked.

[Zalec]

Originally posted by: 01blkcat
Nope, that IP is AOL:

OrgName: America Online, Inc.
OrgID: AMERIC-158
Address: 10600 Infantry Ridge Road
City: Manassas
StateProv: VA
PostalCode: 20109
Country: US

NetRange: 64.12.0.0 - 64.12.255.255
CIDR: 64.12.0.0/16
NetName: AOL-MTC
NetHandle: NET-64-12-0-0-1
Parent: NET-64-0-0-0-0
NetType: Direct Assignment
NameServer: DNS-01.NS.AOL.COM
NameServer: DNS-02.NS.AOL.COM
Comment:
RegDate: 1999-12-13
Updated: 1999-12-16

i stand corrected

[crazyoldcougar]

i would have someone on his A$$ just in case...i hope he sent traking nubers this time and that you have confirmed with the shipper the delivery time and weight of the package..i really hope you get want you paid for here and not some sh*t that he feels is equivalent or better....it is awefully hard to get better quality subs those those and the amp is a beaut too..<---sorry about the beaut thing.....(doncherry) its a canadian thing.. anyway please update us on this....i friggin hate dead beats like this...it would be aweully nice f the authorities could some how in the future flag any sales he tries to make online from here on out..through his ip or something...this bullsh*t has got to stop...!!!

[CougarBalla2k5]

update please!!

[Dante]

Well, After he he mentioned that he would send two new subs and an amp, he has not responded to any of my PM's. He hasn't signed on since the 21st, so I was giving him the benefit of the doubt and give him another two weeks. But now I'm fed up, the police will be knocking on his door soon.

[ReToM7]

update?

[qkilobyteq]

hey dante can we get an update i know this is a little old

[01blkcat]

Originally posted by: qkilobyteq
hey dante can we get an update i know this is a little old

What is the point of bumping this thread, unless you had something to do with it? It's been over nine months, and that member is clearly gone... although I find it kinda strange that you would go back that far to find it, as well as being located in a similar area...

[Zalec]

Originally posted by: Nitrik

Originally posted by: 01blkcat
[quote]
Originally posted by: qkilobyteq
hey dante can we get an update i know this is a little old

FastestCougar & 02Cougakid are the same person..

theres one way of finding out... have an admin run the IP's on both names and see if they match.

-Zac