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Cougaritus
10-18-2003, 05:17 PM
Here is my situation...
I bought stock fog lights and bulbs online a while ago... put them in... they look great...
Then when I wanted to make them work I bought the factory switch from FordPartsOnline and I put the switch in and to my dissapointment they did not turn on.
So I got real pissed because my car seemed to be equipped with wiring.
So I bought a wiring kit from Caterina and now I am even more confused. What wiring do I need to replace and what is a relay??
I really want to get these going in my car but im just not sure what to do. The thing Caterina sent me has a switch on it and I don't want to use that as I bought a factory switch.
Any help would be appreciated... thanks again!
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JScullin
10-18-2003, 06:45 PM
Here's what I sent him in the PM. This is if you already have the wiring for the foglights installed. You can check by taking out the filler cups where the fogs go & looking for a plug tapped up somewhere. If you do then you just need to buy the fogs, headlight switch w/fog control & the relay.
Under your dash, behind the steering wheel, that panel you removed to install the stock switch w/fogs. If you look at where that panel covered you should be able to see what appear to be the backs of clips sticking out. Either feel around or look up underneath it and you should see what appears to be a plug with nothing going to into it. This is where the relay goes for the foglights (it just turns them off when the highbeams go on). Without something there the fogs won't turn on.
You have 2 options here. Find the relay, which unless Ford has fixed, is in their parts system under the wrong #. They list it as an A/C Compressor relay or something, check with Fett since he works for Ford and can get the the proper part # most likely. Your second option is to just jump connectors with some heavy gauge wire. This will allow the fogs to work and allow you to put your highbeams on and keep the fogs on at the same time. The relay you want is going to be BLUE. The one listed for the fog relay in Ford's computer is WHITE and only allows the fogs to go on with the highbeams.
To do that latter find about 1" of some heavy gauge (40 is good) wire. When you look at the plug it's going to have 2 plugs that are parallel and another that's unparallel (and it's smaller. Think of a 3 prong outlet). You want to make a "U" shape from the wire and jam it into the 2 parallel slits. You may need to jam it in there. I didn't notice, but took the precaution anyway, of wrapping it in electrical tape incase it gets hot or something & touches plastic or metal. Unplug the battery before you do this so you don't run the risk of blowing a fuse or getting electricuted. Tho if it's switched to "off" then there should be nothing going through it.
This was all I needed to do to get the fogs to work. It was a pain to figure out where the relay was since it's separate from every other relay/fuse in the car. Not to mention the part # was wrong.
JAMallott
10-19-2003, 12:47 AM
wow, you are a god! i was going to install some of these in about a week at our chapter's holloween meet, and i wouldnt have known to get like half the things i need! thank you thank you thank you!
Zalec
10-19-2003, 02:07 AM
IIRC all u gotta do it get a new switch and plug them them in. all the wiring is already there
LostRacer
10-19-2003, 04:55 PM
here is the part number for the relay....F8RZ-19D572-AA I just put mine in about a week ago and it works great. :thumbsup:
Jscullin-Maybe you or Trevor can put that relay in the FAQs section or something because thats a pretty frequently asked question.
Thanks to CVZ4LIFE for the part number.
Cougaritus
10-19-2003, 05:55 PM
how much did u pay for it???
rastaman
10-19-2003, 06:14 PM
jscullin, i think this would be a good article to add to the knowledge base :)
Cougaritus
10-19-2003, 07:29 PM
Is This The Plug???
LostRacer
10-19-2003, 10:06 PM
That looks like the plug for it. Mine was attached in betwen the switch and dimmer control(not on the actual panel) in the dash. And it was around $14.99 plus tax
LostRacer
10-19-2003, 10:18 PM
Originally posted by: JScullin
To do that latter find about 1" of some heavy gauge (40 is good) wire. When you look at the plug it's going to have 2 plugs that are parallel and another that's unparallel (and it's smaller. Think of a 3 prong outlet). You want to make a "U" shape from the wire and jam it into the 2 parallel slits. You may need to jam it in there. I didn't notice, but took the precaution anyway, of wrapping it in electrical tape incase it gets hot or something & touches plastic or metal. Unplug the battery before you do this so you don't run the risk of blowing a fuse or getting electricuted. Tho if it's switched to "off" then there should be nothing going through it.
Hey, since he posted a pic of the plug, would you mind circling the slots that you're talking about using?
:thumbsup:
JScullin
10-20-2003, 01:12 AM
Out of the 4 sockets you see, you want the 2 on the left that are parallel to each other. And that does appear to be the plug, I'd need a full shot to be certain.
I will add this to the database.
Cougaritus
10-20-2003, 01:26 AM
So what exactly am I going to do??? Just run a wire to connect the two together??? I did that and the lights didn't come on...
JScullin
10-20-2003, 01:35 AM
Check your fuses? You may not have one in there.
BTW, I added this to the database.
Cougaritus
10-20-2003, 01:37 AM
Do you happen to know where in the fuse box it is?? I lost my manual a while ago...
LostRacer
10-20-2003, 01:42 AM
fuse 5 in the engine compartment.
Cougaritus
10-20-2003, 01:47 AM
I'll check it tommorow.... i hope everything works out... i have been dying to get em working...
Cougaritus
10-20-2003, 09:29 AM
Doesn't seem to be a fuse in there... what size fuse is needed???
Reading Here (http://www.fastcougar.com/forums/messageview.cfm?catid=13&threadid=74373&FTVAR_MSGDBTABLE=) i'm thinking that the fuse isn't in the box and it is in the lines??? Man this is confusing...
LostRacer
10-20-2003, 11:51 AM
If your car is not PRE-wired for fogs then that would pertain. But yours is. (ops) Check slot 8 not 5. and its a 20amp.:biggrin:
Cougaritus
10-20-2003, 12:22 PM
I put in a 20 amp fuse in slot F8 in the dist. box and then put these wires into it just as I was told to do... nothing came on... help me :)
scottina99
10-20-2003, 05:40 PM
Dude...I had the same problem and I tried everything...even had a guy that works at the Ford garage look at it. I finally just bought the OE wiring kit....took like 30-45 minutes and I had fogs! PM firebird12, he has a set of directions that I sold him in a another kit I aquired. He may send you a copy...hes a pretty cool guy!
JScullin
10-20-2003, 07:16 PM
I dunno mang. I told you everything I had to do to get mine working. Get a line tester & turn on your foglights (without them plugged in) and test the plugs to see if their getting power. Maybe you blew the bulbs? Did you put bulbs in?? :) Have to ask cause sometimes it's the simple stupid things.
Cougaritus
10-20-2003, 07:55 PM
I'm not sure now... after messing with it all day I gave up and ordered the $4 plug from Ford Parts Online!