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topgunz1
07-27-2003, 05:49 AM
Tonight was one crazy night.... about 1:30 am I was riding through town, just wasting some time before I came home, driving like I usually do. I come up to a light and this SUV and a truck appear to race when the light turns green, I accellerate about medium just to keep up and see who wins. I'm behind the SUV and he slows down pretty quick after the truck beats him. So when he slows I get a little close (not extremely but I guess closer than I should be) he hits the brakes HARD and gets back on the gas. I nearly had to lock it up to not hit him. I decide I didnt wanna be behind this guy anymore, so I downshift to 4th and pass him.

The next light turns red, so he catches back up, I hear him yell "HEY" and look over and he is flipping me off. I stop at the light a little ways back from him, and he yells "get up here p*ssy" At this point I just wanna get away from this guy...so after the light I stay behind for a sec, then floor it and top out second and third to around 90ish. He attempts to catch up but cant. I decided to turn off the main highway onto a side road which connects to a parallel road in about 3 or 4 miles, I turn and get on it to 60, he turns too. I bring it up to 80-90, pass a car...he is still about a half mile back. I'm hauling down the road, trying to think of what to do next...I take a right when I reach the parallel road and run hard down it...I go under the interstate and turn onto another side road, then a little ways down I turn onto another that I know really well with some killer hairpins. to my amazment the guy turns behind me. how he followed I have no clue.

I get a lead down a straight and plow into the hairpins, the sign suggests 10, I'm doing 50+. I'm hoping he goes into a ditch...left hand sweeper, into a tight right left S section...I'm using up the entire road, tires screaming, braking at the last second and only what is needed...I'm flying. I pause really fast at a stop sign and tear off again, back towards the interstate. I make an illegal pass and maintain about 80 in a 50 zone...I dont see him. I pick a direction on interstate and fly up the offramp.. go back down to 80 again and cruise...mirror is clear...car passes me, clear....no new lights get on at the onramp until I cant see it anymore...I get off at the next exit and fill up, I used almost a quarter tank of gas in 15 minutes...

Thanks you federal for the spankin new front tires I just put on, thanks to bendix for the new pads I put on last week, thanks to SVT for making such a kickass car, and thanks to God for keeping me safe. And shame on all you a**hole drunks!

2000CUGR
07-27-2003, 10:50 AM
:rofl: what kind of suv was it?...nice burn though

topgunz1
07-27-2003, 01:54 PM
I wasnt behind it long enough to pay attention, some kind of chrysler or jeep...it was new, still had the temp tags

RodneyBur
07-27-2003, 02:36 PM
So why exactly were you running???:confused:

BigKat
07-27-2003, 02:48 PM
omg exciting :biggrin:

guns
07-27-2003, 03:55 PM
Originally posted by: RodneyBur
So why exactly were you running???:confused:


my thoughts exactly?

topgunz1
07-27-2003, 07:56 PM
Originally posted by: guns

Originally posted by: RodneyBur
So why exactly were you running???:confused:


my thoughts exactly?

I live out in the country all most, I didnt feel like getting shot by some drunk rednecks with guns so I had to lose them before I went home. 1 guy vs 2 or 3 drunks isnt a very fair fight. Trust me, it was plenty exciting...triple digits on back roads at 2 am, tryin to think 5 steps ahead so I didnt go down a dead end road or something. it was nuts

CougarBalla2k5
07-27-2003, 08:06 PM
If you were high at the time, I could understand your actions cuz I know if I were high I would freak. But to me, you just acted like a pussy :rofl:

coolcatstrut
07-27-2003, 10:07 PM
Originally posted by: CougarBalla2k5
If you were high at the time, I could understand your actions cuz I know if I were high I would freak. But to me, you just acted like a pussy :rofl:

You got two balls for a brain my friend. What else could he have done? Driven home? Stayed there and argued with two or three drunken bastards? However topgunz1, I think they probably thought you were trying to race them or something. Maybe that's why they followed you. By the way, nice burn!!!

topgunz1
07-27-2003, 10:09 PM
I posted this cause it was a strange story that these guys followed me for so long, and that it was pretty funny that they thought they could hang with me. it wasnt a "scared" thing it was a "lets see what this guy can do"

Se7enCentz
07-27-2003, 10:17 PM
If I was in the situation, I would've gotten out of the car and asked him what the problem was, thats just me tho:kick:

ND4SPD
07-28-2003, 01:28 AM
if it were me... i would have gotten out of my car... waited for them to get outta their car.... then quickly jump back in mine, and run them over as they were walking towards me :biggrin:

j/k... you never know some people, 2k5... what if he started arguing with them and one of em pulled out a gun or knife and killed him... thats a risk i know i wouldn't be willing to take, specially if i know im unarmed...

i think what he did was probably the best thing... not the safest, but the best :)
he got to try out those new tires and everything :biggrin:
good 'road-tale'!

Dante
07-28-2003, 12:56 PM
Owned.

EllenD
07-28-2003, 01:03 PM
I'm seeing a pattern developing...

CougarBalla2k5
07-28-2003, 01:59 PM
Originally posted by: vSpanky

Originally posted by: CougarBalla2k5
If you were high at the time, I could understand your actions cuz I know if I were high I would freak. But to me, you just acted like a pussy :rofl:

You do NOT know the situation like he did... And you know what? IF THAT WAS THE PHUCKING CASE THEN SO PHUCKING BE IT BECAUSE IT'S HIS PHUCKING LIFE AND MAYBE HE DOESN'T WANT THAT 50% CHANCE OF GETTING SHOT!!!

WHO THE PHUCK DO YOU THINK YOU ARE TO GO AROUND AND TELL PEOPLE THEY ACT LIKE PUSSIES?! SOMEONE NEEDS TO BAN UR GAY IMMATURE A$$!! ABOUT 98% OF YOUR POSTS ARE OF YOU POSTING IMMATURE, FLAMMING, DISSRESPECTFUL COMMENTS AND THE OTHER 2% IS OF YOU ASKING STUPID A$$ QUESTIONS THAT COULD HAVE BEEN ANSWERED BY USING THE SEARCH BUTTON!!

:banhim::banghead::mad:

vS


And I'm the immature one. I stated my opinion, would it have been okay if I had said acted scared? That is all I meant. Take off the caps, it doesn't help prove your point very well, takes away from it IMO.

[Edit] I have to say this, here are a few of top "Immature things to do"

1. Type in all caps
2. Purposely mispell cuss words as in Phuck or A$$
3. Responding to an equally immature post.

We both broke #3 though.

Ariadne
07-28-2003, 05:18 PM
Alex... ok let's pretend you aren't an Immature Dick for one second ok?

He doesn't rely on mommy and daddy to protect him, what he did was the best idea he had at the time.

and since you can't drive late at night i'm guessing you've never seen irate rednecks with shotguns?

give the guy a break Jesus, and before you start calling someone else a Pussy, look at your own life.

EllenD
07-28-2003, 05:20 PM
OWNED!

coug99
07-28-2003, 11:19 PM
Well said Spanky. I agree with everything you said about him.

CougarBalla2k5
07-29-2003, 12:11 AM
Originally posted by: vSpanky

[Edit] I have to say this, here are a few of top "Immature things to do"

1. Type in all caps
2. Purposely mispell cuss words as in Phuck or A$$
3. Responding to an equally immature post.

We both broke #3 though.

1.) I didn't type in "all" caps...
2.) Swearing I'm sure is NOT allowed on these boards, kids like you might get offended by them and tell their mom's.
3.) I don't see how my post was immature.

vS


You people realize you make no sense what so ever right? Escpecially this post. "I didn't type in all caps" of course not.....you just used really big letters.....are you blind? Swearing is not allowed so you take the gay route by misspelling it? Yeh...that makes it ok, I'm sure its much less offensive. Number 3 is just obvious.

Nemesis
07-29-2003, 12:12 AM
cant we all just get along?

CougarBalla2k5
07-29-2003, 12:14 AM
Yeh.......probably..... :)

8BaLL
07-29-2003, 12:21 AM
Originally posted by: Ariadne
Alex... ok let's pretend you aren't an Immature Dick for one second ok?

He doesn't rely on mommy and daddy to protect him, what he did was the best idea he had at the time.

and since you can't drive late at night i'm guessing you've never seen irate rednecks with shotguns?

give the guy a break Jesus, and before you start calling someone else a Pussy, look at your own life.



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CougarBalla2k5
07-29-2003, 01:13 AM
Just to comment, I used to live in chesterfield county.....I am a redneck with a shotgun.......

gyger
07-29-2003, 02:51 AM
Nice driving Chief!!!:thumbsup:
I would've been screwed I can only drive fast in a staright line (atleast I'm honest)

I stop at the light a little ways back from him, and he yells "get up here p*ssy"

Trust me I'm a little guy, but the last thing people expect is for you to do just that
get out of your car and run up to their window.
I've done it many times. Hell I've even posted one or two of the stories on here.
Don't even take a weapon with you just walk up like you own their ass. I've had people
run stop lights to get away from me. There is nothing worse than an angry tattoo'd white kid
walking up to your drivers side window. The funniest part is the wave me on to get out of my car
like they wanna fight. Then when I do they just sit like a bunch of wusses.
I watched two grown men refuse to put their windows down or even get out of the car after they
waved me to get out and "supposedly" fight.

[the following statements were just that "statements" about how I choose to live my life and inflict
built up rage upon the morons that crowd our streets. At NO point do I mean to seriously suggest
that anyone reading this should follow these statements. It's just the way I am]

CougarBalla2k5
07-29-2003, 02:52 AM
Originally posted by: gyger
Nice driving Cheif!!!:thumbsup:
I would've been screwed I can only drive fast in a staright line (atleast I'm honest)

I stop at the light a little ways back from him, and he yells "get up here p*ssy"

Trust me I'm a little guy, but the last thing people expect is for you to do just that
get out of your car and run up to their window.
I've done it many times. Hell I've even posted one or two of the stories on here.
Don't even take a weapon with you just walk up like you own their ass. I've had people
run stop lights to get away from me. There is nothing worse than an angry tattoo'd white kid
walking up to your drivers side window. The funniest part is the wave me on to get out of my car
like they wanna fight. Then when I do they just sit like a bunch of wusses.
I watched two grown men refuse to put their windows down or even get out of the car after they
waved me to get out and "supposedly" fight.

[the following statements were just that "statements" about how I choose to live my life and inflict
built up rage upon the morons that crowd our streets. At NO point do I mean to seriously suggest
that anyone reading this should follow these statements. It's just the way I am]


You're my new best friend.

CatMan
07-29-2003, 03:46 AM
CougarBalla2k5, shut the hell up. You have no idea what you're talking about. There's a difference between not being a pussy and being a moron. If it were one little puck ass kid (much like you), and he had lost them like he said, I might agree with you. But when he's alone and there's three rednecks in the truck, going up there would be stupid. Have you noticed that every thread you post in makes you look more and more like a moron? Why don't you just shut the hell up and spectate. Then you won't end up looking so foolish, and we won't have to read a bunch of dumb ass comments in every thread that you post in.

gyger
07-29-2003, 04:05 AM
Ok EVERYONE calm down and stop with the drama.
It's not needed!

SOMEONE NEEDS TO BAN UR GAY IMMATURE A$$!! ABOUT 98% OF YOUR POSTS ARE
OF YOU POSTING IMMATURE, FLAMMING, DISSRESPECTFUL COMMENTS
And what would you call that? Mature? If you have something you personally
would like to say to someone PM THEM! don't drag out immature arguments in these posts.

topgunz1: You tell a great story and once again great driving!

Mike

topgunz1
07-29-2003, 06:05 AM
Thanks for the comments gyger and everyone else who sees my point, I'm a medium sized guy, never been in a fight in my life, I more the intellectual type. I could maybe take one of them, but not 2 or 3. I tried to tell the story well, I posted it right after I made it home, now it kinda seems strange that it ever happened ya know. Oh well, stop the drama.



BTW: I'm just lucky I wasnt in an ATX cougar :cover:

:rofl: j/k

CougarBalla2k5
07-29-2003, 12:35 PM
Originally posted by: CatMan
CougarBalla2k5, shut the hell up. You have no idea what you're talking about. There's a difference between not being a pussy and being a moron. If it were one little puck ass kid (much like you), and he had lost them like he said, I might agree with you. But when he's alone and there's three rednecks in the truck, going up there would be stupid. Have you noticed that every thread you post in makes you look more and more like a moron? Why don't you just shut the hell up and spectate. Then you won't end up looking so foolish, and we won't have to read a bunch of dumb ass comments in every thread that you post in.


I love you though :shrug:

gyger
07-29-2003, 12:38 PM
BTW: I'm just lucky I wasnt in an ATX cougar
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAA

that's the truth:rofl:

Nemesis
07-29-2003, 12:52 PM
Originally posted by: CatMan
But when he's alone and there's three rednecks in the truck, going up there would be stupid.

Catman you know about dem rednecks in Athens....boy if they were any where they would be there. UGA entry wannabees. They also make occasional visits to conyers with their jacked up trucks :rofl:

CougarBalla2k5
07-29-2003, 12:54 PM
Yo, I'm fa real about being a redneck.....I grew out of it when I moved away but I still have all my friends over there. They aren't as bad as you think, rednecks are some of the nicest people you'll ever meet.

Nemesis
07-29-2003, 01:02 PM
Originally posted by: CougarBalla2k5
Yo, I'm fa real about being a redneck.....I grew out of it when I moved away but I still have all my friends over there. They aren't as bad as you think, rednecks are some of the nicest people you'll ever meet.

im speaking from personal expierience.....


when you have a guy throw a beer bottle right through your friends windshield because he owns an import , thats when I get pissed.

or how bout a time a guy runs a key down the side of your car because you looked at his girlfriend wrong? how bout that....?

yeah, when you witness those things first hand you start to think otherwise. Just because YOUR friends are nice to you doesnt mean they are nice to all.

CougarBalla2k5
07-29-2003, 01:21 PM
We have different kinds of rednecks, those are georgia rednecks. I got tons of family in georgia -- actually....one of them may have keyed your car :cover: south carolina rednecks are "good 'ole boys"

Nemesis
07-29-2003, 01:29 PM
Originally posted by: CougarBalla2k5
We have different kinds of rednecks, those are georgia rednecks. I got tons of family in georgia -- actually....one of them may have keyed your car :cover: south carolina rednecks are "good 'ole boys"

That has got to be one of the most idiotic things I have seen you type. BTW nobody keyed MY car.

CougarBalla2k5
07-29-2003, 01:33 PM
Which part was idiotic.......I didn't think it was that bad.....

ND4SPD
07-29-2003, 01:59 PM
which ones are the "Jerry Springer" rednecks?? - those are the ones i'm afraid of :tongue:

CougarBalla2k5
07-29-2003, 02:01 PM
That would be my georgia relatives.....I usually don't claim them though.....buncha pot smoking, beer drinking, crazies.

Prez
07-29-2003, 03:01 PM
FastCougar.com and NewCougar.org does not condone illegal street racing! As such, harsh replies to such stories can and should be expected.

So how about everyone back up off everyones dick! Opinions are opinions... leave them at that.

Ariadne
07-29-2003, 03:39 PM
Originally posted by: ND4SPD
which ones are the "Jerry Springer" rednecks?? - those are the ones i'm afraid of :tongue:

That would be the rednecks in North and South Carolina, they invented Inbreeding. Yeah it sucks when your Brother in law tries to make moves on you. Thank god my mother divorced his father.

All rednecks are "good 'Ole boys" until they've had a few beers and then it's shoot **** night. And of course Most jacked up trucks you see even is Asheville, the larest city in western NC, have a gunrack in the back window.

Prez! love dat avatar! getting some Tila action? lol :naughty:

scottina99
07-29-2003, 03:55 PM
:disgust::rofl:

scottina99
07-29-2003, 03:55 PM
:disgust::rofl:

KoochieCivic
07-30-2003, 05:36 AM
incidents like this is the exact reason why you carry a mr. smiley in your trunk (wish I had a pic to show you guys). But if you honestly do feel scared at the situation and the prick is following you.... why not have him follow you to a police station? That should get rid of him fast. Anyways glad to see it turned out good. -peace-

CougarBalla2k5
07-30-2003, 01:18 PM
My mom carries this orange pistol w/ mace or pepper spray in it. It paints the person too for like 3 weeks.

ND4SPD
07-30-2003, 02:34 PM
Originally posted by: Ariadne

Originally posted by: ND4SPD
which ones are the "Jerry Springer" rednecks?? - those are the ones i'm afraid of :tongue:

That would be the rednecks in North and South Carolina, they invented Inbreeding. Yeah it sucks when your Brother in law tries to make moves on you. Thank god my mother divorced his father.

Really?! hmmm so if those rednecks are from N&S Carolina.... what are the rednecks from Texas? cause thats what i was thinking the J Springer ones were... heh!

Ariadne
07-30-2003, 03:55 PM
Hmmm the rednecks in texas....??? hmm you mean the people with big cowboy hats?? and huge oil fields?? lol

We should get back on topic..... so how's that SVT doing after all the spirited driving?

EllenD
07-30-2003, 04:33 PM
I want to stay on topic, but need to clarify something. There is a difference between a cowboy and a redneck. I'm sure there are rednecks in every state, but it's not really a southern thing. Pennsylvania is redneck land. A redneck has a gunrack on his pick-up truck, spits snuff out his truck window and gets it all over the side of the truck, and is missing at least 2 of his permanent teeth. They're everywhere here, that's just how most people are here. They listen to country music and drink Genesee. Welcome to my life.


By the way, I probably would have handled the situation the same way you did. You're not a coward for avoiding what could end up being a really bad situation. If someone is being a dic* and then you are an equal dic* back to them, bad things can happen.

jojolmnop
07-30-2003, 04:37 PM
there's nothing cowardly about that situation. bunch of rednecks instigating a fight vs one guy is def not a fair fight. add in the fact that you are unarmed and they were maybe drunk makes an even worse situation. who knows, you pick a fight and it may have been your last one. jumping head on into things like that is just a bad idea.

nice escape skills tho. think of it like an urban rally. hehe.

mrshl13
07-30-2003, 07:12 PM
It's not just stupid rednecks you have to watch out for. I had a similar thing happen with an "urban" dude whose crappy Neon I had just spanked. But I know how the country boys are around here too so I'll just be carrying everywhere I go once they finally send me my renewed CWP.

There's nothing cowardly in showing what your car can do.

guns
07-30-2003, 10:09 PM
the best thing a person could do if you are of age is to get your GUN PERMIT.. i have mine, all my good friends just went to get theirs. a truck full of three will be no quicker to pull a gun out on some one than a single scared idiot. same if they were going to fight. if im with 2 of my friends or by myself, its not going to have a diffence on whether im fixing to hit someone or not. . Just because its a truckfull of rednecks,, white frat boys, or ghetto thugs doesnt mean they are going to pull guns out. all of this thread got taken way out of line. i mean after all topgunz did say " So when he slows I get a little close (not extremely but I guess closer than I should be) he hits the brakes HARD and gets back on the gas". how many of us get really annoyed really quick when this happens to us. i have alot of money invested in my car for a guy to get really close to my rear and run into me,( if that were to happen). those guys were pissed for 2 good reasons. he got smoked,,,and his ass rode. so hes really annoyed now.

TOPGUNS did the right thing since he did want to avoid the altercation,

nevertheless....ELLEND AND jojolmnop said it perfect.

but to the other guy who said something bout the mase, orange, or pepperspray stuff.... i warn you against this unless absolutely necc. ive been sprayed with pepperspray by some coward who pulled up in my yard and said some choice words that he was bout to get punished for,,,instead i got this pepper spray as soon as i walked 4 feet toward the window. MAN you talking bout a drive by,,,****TTTT. and mind you i didnt have my gun on my person then. but if i did ....ohh my... thats how bad pepper spray hurts. that stuff will def. make someone do something very irrational and just plain dumb.
good burn tho...

Fett
07-31-2003, 12:51 AM
Why are people so quick to say "I have a gun."? I can't stand that attitude, "If they mess with me, I will whip out my gun." Someone sprays you with pepper spray, and your first comment is that you didn't have your gun on you. And exactly what would you have done, if you had your gun on you? Pulling it out would have been illegal, pepper spray is far from "deadly force", therefore you had no reason to display deadly force yourself.

Now I DO have a gun, and it IS in my car. It is never loaded, but there is ammo always close by. Would I ever pull it out? Hell no, not unless it was a last resort. If I was in this situation, KNOWING I have a gun, with 30 rounds all within reach. I would have run also, there is no reason in the world to confront anyone in that situation. Because you never know....you never know. And just because you have a gun, does not give you the "upper hand". And thinking that way will only get you killed.

Everyone must remember, there is always someone out there who is willing to go further than you are. I know that in every mans mind, they are the best fighter, and they KNOW how things will go down. But until you are in that situation, you really don't know how you will react.

I don't mean to preach "pussyness", but today you really need to walk or run away from situations like this. When I was younger, and someone started ****, you could throw down and solve it right there. No worrying about someone pulling a gun, or stabbing you. Just your average throw down. Today, there are kids running around with guns and knives, and are willing to kill someone in the middle of the mall. So your pride is not worth your life, even if you have a gun. When you find yourself in a situation like this, remove yourself from it as quickly as you can.

TeamXtreme92GSR
07-31-2003, 01:40 AM
Originally posted by: EllenD
I want to stay on topic, but need to clarify something. There is a difference between a cowboy and a redneck. I'm sure there are rednecks in every state, but it's not really a southern thing. Pennsylvania is redneck land. A redneck has a gunrack on his pick-up truck, spits snuff out his truck window and gets it all over the side of the truck, and is missing at least 2 of his permanent teeth. They're everywhere here, that's just how most people are here. They listen to country music and drink Genesee. Welcome to my life.


By the way, I probably would have handled the situation the same way you did. You're not a coward for avoiding what could end up being a really bad situation. If someone is being a dic* and then you are an equal dic* back to them, bad things can happen.


This has to be one of the most bias opinions I have ever heard. I am by far no redneck. I just stopped dipping snuff, lost more then 2 of my permanent teeth in a fight, and if I still had a truck I would have a gun rack in it. Some of us hunt as a hobby also. I also love country music but it isnt all I listen to. Hell if you say I am a redneck then that is the loss of many, I will just continue to be an educated redneck with a college degree then. Next time you should really rethink some of the things you say before you say them

guns
07-31-2003, 03:11 AM
[quote]
Originally posted by: Fett
Why are people so quick to say "I have a gun."? I can't stand that attitude, "If they mess with me, I will whip out my gun." Someone sprays you with pepper spray, and your first comment is that you didn't have your gun on you. And exactly what would you have done, if you had your gun on you? Pulling it out would have been illegal, pepper spray is far from "deadly force", therefore you had no reason to display deadly force yourself.

Now I DO have a gun, and it IS in my car. It is never loaded, but there is ammo always close by. Would I ever pull it out? Hell no, not unless it was a last resort. If I was in this situation, KNOWING I have a gun, with 30 rounds all within reach. I would have run also, there is no reason in the world to confront anyone in that situation. Because you never know....you never know. And just because you have a gun, does not give you the "upper hand". And thinking that way will only get you killed.
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let me quickly correct this...
im not quick to pull out a gun. use of guns should be the absolute last option. theres no going back after the trigger is pulled. and i do think everyone should carry one. Have you ever been sprayed with pepper spray. Its like boiling hot grease. You go into panic. Thats why i said people do irrational things after getting hit with this stuff. i said that before. i carry a gun just like you Fett. and other millions of people. i carry mine legally. i am permitted. and if you have taken the course to carry legally you to would know i have the right to use deadly force to protect my person, property, and the safety of anothers person. so pulling it out would have been VERY MUCH WITHIN THE LAW. whats the purpose of carring an unloaded gun. if you get held up at the stop light, are you going to try to load it as they have you at gunpoint. thats senseless. now that line of thinking is what will get you killed(with your own gun) i do agree with you guns dont give you the upper hand. Only a good state of mind will give you the upper hand.

i said before topguns did the CORRECT thing. i DIDNT say he should have pulled up to them and shot at them.

guns were brought up earlier in the thread because these guys were rednecks?,,,,i was simply trying to get accros, that if it was only one redneck(?) he could have pulled up next to him since it would have only been 1. but that 1 is more than likely more prone to pulling that gun out than a guy with 2 friends. i wasnt saying topguns should ve pulled up and shot.

mrshl13
07-31-2003, 01:22 PM
Well, guns, in the state of FL where Fett and I both live you would've gone to jail for shooting (or just pulling your gun on) that guy in your yard. Had you tried to go inside your house and he followed you, you would be "weapons-free". You do have the right to use deadly force to protect yourself or another person in the case of a forcible felony but I don't think spraying pepper spray is a forcible felony. If he attacked you with a knife or gun at the same time he would've been fair game...as long as you tried to retreat first. State laws differ but many are similar in that sense and not all even have our wonderful "Castle Clause".

Now unlike Fett I carry mine locked, cocked and ready to rock. I've been trained in the use of all types of force and have seen documented proof of too many situations that went bad fast enough that the victim didn't even have enough time to draw...much less load and chamber.

I do agree with Fett that your first action should be to exit post-haste. There is "...always someone out there who is willing to go further than you are" and I'm sure there's someone who may be carrying at least one more bullet than you are. You never know what they're carrying or willing to do with it. Start driving toward the nearest police station or another safe place (like your home if you're strapped). If they drop off, great. You have a "Road Tale" there's no shame in telling. If they're stubborn, get the hell away (within reason) and defend yourself (within the confines of the law). Remember if you do it wrong you WILL go to jail and you can't bring your piece in there to protect yourself. It will likely be confiscated in the even of shots being fired anyway even if you did it right.

coolcatstrut
07-31-2003, 04:20 PM
Guns, you're the reason some people shouldn't have guns. You can have training 'till the cows come home but that's no substitute for common sense. First off, you were the attacker and not the victim when you got sprayed. From what I understand, you were walking up to the persons car when they pepper sprayed you. So they, not you, were using self defense. Secondly, being pepper sprayed doesn't constitute using deadly force, especially since they drove off after they did it. Had he/they gotten out of their car and tried to attack you after they pepper sprayed you, then you'd have a case. You need to get better acquainted with the law or you're gonna end up behind jail my friend. Just trying to help.

SLiDE
07-31-2003, 05:48 PM
Things like this have happened to me before…

Things usually spur from people being impatient or just plain stupid. I have a tendency to let people know when they almost hit me… or when they’re tailgating me… so annoying. I’ve stopped my car in the middle of the road in my subdivision, to get out, walk up to the other persons window and ask them why they felt it was necessary to drive that close to my rear bumper. Not that it’s a safe thing to do by any means, but I was more willing to take that chance seeing that it was the middle of white collar suburbia.

One guy in a minivan, whipping between lanes, decided to get inches from my rear bumper and ride it to the next light… me not being in a hurry accelerated very slowly to 25 mph… in a 45. He got beside me, flipped me off, got stuck in that lane, got back behind me and rode my rear until the next light… and decided he was going to get out of his van to do what god only knows. My g/f yelled at me to stay in the car… but… well… she’s in the car, and I was going to make sure this guy didn’t get that close. All it took for him to sit back down in his vehicle was to see me get out of mine. I don’t know if it was just me calling his bluff… or the fact that a guy standing 6 foot 4 at 230 pounds just poured out of a lowered Honda Civic. :: shrugs ::

:: sigh ::

I haven’t done things like this for a while… and I have to grit my teeth sometimes to let someone go… pull over to the shoulder if I’m being tailgated, slow down if I’m being taunted, Ignore people not paying attention and ALMOST hitting me….

but it’s safer this way… ESPECIALLY if its 2-3 against 1 guy… I don’t think anyone really want’s to get into that kind of confrontation by themselves… that kind of adrenaline rush is spooky. I have been caught running from this kind of situation… They caught me at a light and blocked my car in… got out and proceeded to take turns swinging at me through my open window… they quit when I started laughing and thought I was a sicko who enjoyed that kind of rush. :: shrugs :: whatever works I guess.

Good job on the run… good thing they didn’t catch up to ya…

screenamesuck
08-01-2003, 03:44 PM
:wave:Just wanted to be apart of the fun

RaBBiT
08-01-2003, 05:18 PM
GHEY :spam:

Jason J
08-02-2003, 08:06 PM
Originally posted by: Fett
Why are people so quick to say "I have a gun."? I can't stand that attitude, "If they mess with me, I will whip out my gun." Someone sprays you with pepper spray, and your first comment is that you didn't have your gun on you. And exactly what would you have done, if you had your gun on you? Pulling it out would have been illegal, pepper spray is far from "deadly force", therefore you had no reason to display deadly force yourself.

Now I DO have a gun, and it IS in my car. It is never loaded, but there is ammo always close by. Would I ever pull it out? Hell no, not unless it was a last resort. If I was in this situation, KNOWING I have a gun, with 30 rounds all within reach. I would have run also, there is no reason in the world to confront anyone in that situation. Because you never know....you never know. And just because you have a gun, does not give you the "upper hand". And thinking that way will only get you killed.

Everyone must remember, there is always someone out there who is willing to go further than you are. I know that in every mans mind, they are the best fighter, and they KNOW how things will go down. But until you are in that situation, you really don't know how you will react.

I don't mean to preach "pussyness", but today you really need to walk or run away from situations like this. When I was younger, and someone started ****, you could throw down and solve it right there. No worrying about someone pulling a gun, or stabbing you. Just your average throw down. Today, there are kids running around with guns and knives, and are willing to kill someone in the middle of the mall. So your pride is not worth your life, even if you have a gun. When you find yourself in a situation like this, remove yourself from it as quickly as you can.

fett that has to be the most sensible thing i have ever seen you post normally you just talk trash at everyone..........you feel ok???
this thread is fun but seriously i have been followed to by an angry driver he was doing 20mph in a 40 zone so i passed him soon as i got near the police station he drove off after following me for bout 4 miles or so scary experience no matter what if you can get out of the situation and you choose to stay in it then imo that makes you a fool

EllenD
08-04-2003, 10:48 AM
TeamXtreme...that was the point I was trying to get across. The entire subject of this thread turned into what makes a redneck, and then some idiotic replies about different types of rednecks. I was just trying to be sarcastic, it didn't come across that way I guess. My point, not stated well, was it doesn't matter who it was or who it could have been, or where he was, he handled it correctly because you never know who you're dealing with and what could happen. I didn't mean anything by it, I wasn't trying to be bias. Sorry for the miscommunication.


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