Any Schedule of Events? [Archive]

carchck7

05-23-2003, 09:11 PM

Yea show up, because right now all ya'll got is 1 thing because people haven't been paying the $30 fee to attend, so right now there's not even food, because with our wedding coming up, Steve and I aren't fronting the money.

You want **** to do then pay the fee, because unlike past years when it was hit or miss if the organizer's are going to make anything or even break even for this event, its not going to happen this year. Even if you plan on paying at the door, you're still not going to be fed because vendor's require a deposit...and guess what? We're not going to front the money for that either. We have enough deposits just for September, we're not adding NECO's deposits to them.

Nemesis

05-24-2003, 03:18 AM

Christ people are getting edgy. I can understand where you guys/girls are coming from , but there was never a set requirement to pay before we attended. Some if not all of us arent aware of these things. I try to stay up 2 date on Cougarfest since I plan on driving up from Georgia, but there needs to be better communication between the event staff and attendees. You could have just simply said you have to pre-register for this show. Most larger shows require preregistering for things ahead of time. Shoulda, Coulda, Woulda, ill be sending my registration fee in sometime soon to help out. Hopefully, this show will turn out to be good.

Im not trying to start anything , but Rikenbomb didnt deserve those comments, he asked a simple set of questions Heather.

Lets all try to keep the peace :)

carchck7

05-24-2003, 10:57 AM

ok first off there have been a few (meaning 3 or 4) posts about paying this fee, so yes people do know about it. 2nd, there isn't a schedule of events because there's no money, because people haven't been paying. 3rd, 86 people (got the numbers from the original poll) said they'd pay $30 or more to attend CF, and 35 people have paid. Those 35 people have paid for the t-shirts for the event.

Is that more PC for you?

BTW, i asked steve before I posted the above posts, and he was fine with it, since this is his forum, so I'm not just going off on crap.

Nemesis

05-24-2003, 12:07 PM

Yes, youve made it very clear that there is not enough money for "**** to do" at this event because no one has payed. However, Im constantly on the boards and this is the first I have heard of this "shortage", and we have a little over a month before the event. In my opinion (not trying to start crap), whining and saying things like "You want **** to do then pay the fee", is no way to get people to send you money. Ive heard numerous times through people saying that paying at the gate was fine.

Now that ive said that we should concentrate on actually letting people know that they need to send the fee. Maybe sticky a thread saying URGENT: Send In Fees For Cougarfest, or a sticky thread with Cougarfest on it. Because no one has been posting outside of this Cougarfest forum. HCKC was all over the boards and I actually knew more about that Cougar show than I currently know about Fest; all of this because they posted all over the boards about this. If I was able to, I would post and make sticky threads in various forums to try to get you all money. I also will send in more money than the registration fee if I can.

HugNSmile1

05-24-2003, 01:09 PM

Some helpful hints....

Highlight the registration fee on the www.cougarfest.com (http://www.cougarfest.com) webpage. I seriously have skipped over the regisration fee more than once because it just blends in w/the rest of the stuff. Maybe have it on the first page people would see it and then go "OH.. i have to pay!" (I still love the webpage brad!)

Also, isn't there a way to just link to the penpal account? People, in general (and including myself at the moment)are lazy, and the idea of writing down the email address, the topic, price, etc. is time consuming. For the Mod Fest just last weekend... all I did was click and BAM! I paid.

I plan on attending Cougar fest...booked my hotel... and haven't paid. My goal is to do it this weekend. Things have begun to slow down for me, so I can catch up on all the stuff I have to ...including bills. :)

I am sorry people haven't paid, but people do plan on attending. I am not sure if this is a trend among cougar buds. You should ask Morph or Crispy since they also have "cougar" events and had registration fees and see if people did pay in advance or not.

I will also mention.. that having a bad attitude towards cougar buds isn't going to help people pay the registration fee.

MercMobile

05-24-2003, 01:25 PM

Just for reference.. the Stickied thread IN the Cougarfest Forum has been there since December 4th. STICKIED THE WHOLE TIME.

Also.. a post was made IN GENERAL INFO and was also stickied for a month or two..

Since people don't want to take the time to fill out a line.. I will make a page they can click on and just select and pay..

However, to say "I didn't know it was so important" should not even be an argument.. It's less than 2 months away.. how could ANY funding at this point not be important..

Loyalty

05-25-2003, 11:46 AM

"You want **** to do then pay the fee", is no way to get people to send you money

Amen brotha!!!!

I also haven't yet paid....I still do plan on going, and yes I think most people understand that with no funding to pay for the things that have to be paid for, that makes things hard for the coordinators.......Just a suggestion to the coordinators, I know this may be a little work....but why not just either send an email or a pm to those that haven't paid :shrug: Again, it may take a few minutes to do this, but just type up a generic email and send it out.....just an idea.

Rikenbomb

05-25-2003, 01:15 PM

As you can see on the Cougarfest web site I have paid for my regristration.

I understand prepaying is important. That is why I prepaid as soon as I could, a few months in advance. ;)

DNNYBOY33

05-25-2003, 01:38 PM

I think COUGARFEST NEEDS ADVERTISING ON THE NECO FORUM! A banner on the top of the forums will draw peoples attention to the fact that it is coming up and people would start making plans for it. There isn't much out there to get people psyched for this event. Also, the REGION MODERATORS SHOULD INFORM THIER CHAPTERS OF COUGARFEST AND THE BENEFITS OF PREPAYING. *hint - hint*

Right now I am shelling out $500.00 to pay for a dyno for Cougarfest. Call me insane for doing so, but this has the potential to be an awesome event. All the vendors and events are poised to go, we just need individuals to fork out $30! Once the coordinators get the money, we will have a Cougarfest filled with car shows, demos, how-to's, dynos and tuning events, barbeques, raffles and vendors. People will have tons to do and I think will be real busy with all the goings on...

Steve is working his butt off to get this all to everyone. With some advertising and recognition of Cougarfest and some support from the chapters, we can get the ball rolling! With 178 registered atendees, that is 178 cars! That should be $5,340.00 in registration fees to make this the hugest Cougarfest ever. Pay your $30 today! :biggrin:

Seth

05-25-2003, 02:22 PM

i dont understand why people get so upset about not having funding. jump on me for this or not.. the point is the same. if you charge people the same amount for pre-paying or paying at the door.. with either way payment amount being the same.. and with either way the most important thing to each person is a place to stay then there is no incentive to pay early. as organizers you should have made the prices different or at least given some incentive for prepaying. This concept that its the attendees that are at fault is rediculious. organizers are there for a reason. so enough of this nasty attitude. :thumbsdn:

MercMobile

05-25-2003, 02:33 PM

As organizers we were trying to be kind hearted since this is the FIRST time we've had to ask for a registration fee.. we said from day 1: Pay at the door, I can't guarantee food, raffles or shirts for those of you who do.

That being said. It looks like about 38 people are each going to have about 9 shirts a piece.

DNNYBOY33

05-25-2003, 02:52 PM

sweet! Shirtfest 2003! I'll tune my shirt on the dyno!

01blkcat

05-25-2003, 07:40 PM

Sweet! I get 9 shirts :biggrin:

yssupkat

05-25-2003, 10:30 PM

Originally posted by: Rikenbomb
Just wanted to know if there is going to be one.

Cruises? I know a nice spot to cruise but it's a lil ways off (in York area)
Places to hang out for the weekend?
Show times?
:shrug:

who would've thought this simple list of questions would cause so much attitude? :shrug:

i understand being upset about people not paying. heck.. i already registered, paid, and unregistered saying "keep my money towards the cause."

what i don't understand is why henry's head had to be bitten off to convey the point. a simple answer to his questions and then saying "but none of this happens without money" would have been just fine.

hate to see people at each others throats over this. those attending CF this year need to pull together to make it happen. seems like a lot of people are backing out or losing interest. :(

AtomicInternet

05-26-2003, 12:24 AM

Holy crap I didn't know we were in this bad of shape. I've plastered paypal instant-register buttons all over the website, so hopefully that will fix any lazy issues. (Just click the button).

Loyalty

05-26-2003, 11:53 AM

Originally posted by: Loyalty

"You want **** to do then pay the fee", is no way to get people to send you money

Amen brotha!!!!

I also haven't yet paid....I still do plan on going, and yes I think most people understand that with no funding to pay for the things that have to be paid for, that makes things hard for the coordinators.......Just a suggestion to the coordinators, I know this may be a little work....but why not just either send an email or a pm to those that haven't paid :shrug: Again, it may take a few minutes to do this, but just type up a generic email and send it out.....just an idea.

WOW...I just got am email bout pre-paying....looks like I had a good idea :biggrin:

Exorcist5

05-26-2003, 02:13 PM

Yoou should have told everybody that you needed people to pay BEFORE the event and not given them the choice to pay at the door that way most people would have to pay at the time, and then you could have later said that you could pay at the day of the event a week before at $35 instead of the $30

:grouphug:

DNNYBOY33

05-26-2003, 03:10 PM

Another sure fire way to get people to pre pay is to have a raffle. Set June 18th as the cutoff date and choose a name from a hat of all the people who prepayed. Make it a cool prize and eveeryone will want to be in on the raffle!

mcon99

05-26-2003, 03:34 PM

You should have told everybody that you needed people to pay BEFORE the event and not given them the choice to pay at the door that way most people would have to pay at the time, and then you could have later said that you could pay at the day of the event a week before at $35 instead of the $30

Another sure fire way to get people to pre pay is to have a raffle. Set June 18th as the cutoff date and choose a name from a hat of all the people who prepayed. Make it a cool prize and eveeryone will want to be in on the raffle!

you know there is absolutely no reason that both of these ideas can't be implemented NOW.

I say that if you don't preregister that the price is DOUBLED

and set a raffle date for say two fridays from now (June 6th) which you are only entered in if preregistered by that date.

Nemesis

05-26-2003, 05:36 PM

Originally posted by: mcon99

I say that if you don't preregister that the price is DOUBLED .

http://www.mdneco.com/smile/greddy.gif

Its time you take your own medicine and go search about how to actually get people at a large car show.

You may want to try the following search engines
Google (http://www.google.com) or HotBot (http://www.hotbot.com) or IHaveDumbIdeas.com (http://www.ihavedumbidea.com)

please before making a post like that, please use search features :)

Scaring people into prepaying is no way to convince someone. I really think if a person doesnt preregister there should maybe be an additional 15 dollars to pay at the gate but no more. As soon as I get my paycheck im sending in the money. Also, some people have their reasons for not prepaying, legitimate or not, they shouldnt have to pay double.

mcon99

05-26-2003, 06:45 PM

Scaring people into prepaying is no way to convince someone. I really think if a person doesnt preregister there should maybe be an additional 15 dollars to pay at the gate but no more. As soon as I get my paycheck im sending in the money. Also, some people have their reasons for not prepaying, legitimate or not, they shouldnt have to pay double.

I completely understand how other car shows work....

However, what Cougarfest doesn't have that other shows do is CAPTIAL.

Without captial, nothing can happen.

Ergo, unlike any other car show, people need to register now, not later, to make the event what it should be.

And yes, double is extreme in this case, but I was trying to only make a point, ie. it is http://www.mdneco.com/smile/greddy.gif not to register for Cougarfest right now... www.cougarfest.com (http://www.cougarfest.com)

Ness1216

05-26-2003, 06:51 PM

Umm you guys have gotten way off topic to the original post. Whats the planned events going to be? If you list these it might convince other people into signing up.

Seth

05-26-2003, 08:23 PM

what part didn't you get? there are no events since the attendees decided to not pay up front.

EricF

05-26-2003, 08:44 PM

I've thought about posting-posted-and deleted my posts.. I'm amazed at the response this poor guy got..
at this point he's probably thrown up..I know I feel like it everytime I read it.

Last time I checked, forgive me for not knowing since there is no budgeting report for cougarfest
made available to the public.

Cost thats I can think of:
Shirts
Food
Venue(if it costs)
Permits(if needed)
GrabBags Goodie bags(although sponsors of the event are called sponsors for a reason)
Raffle items/Give aways(again sponsors?)

So now to answer the guys question:
"Cruises? I know a nice spot to cruise but it's a lil ways off (in York area)
Places to hang out for the weekend? Show times?"

None of the things he mentioned cost a dime!

1. Cruises, These happen sometimes on a whim, in the past there have been cruises
usually organized during the day by word of mouth. If you know a good cruise, then cool

2. Places to hang out. Most will hang by the Hotel, surely there are attractions in the area
last year many people went to the Nascar Go Cart place.. that was fun and only required
money if you wanted to.

3. Show times... last year it was pretty much all show all the time.. from arrival to
departure. But we had a Saturday "show, with peer judging and sponsor judging"

Now if the guy asked:

"hey so how many free burgers can I eat, and how many body kits are given away"

Then maybe, just maybe the thrashing he received would have been warranted...

You want **** to do then pay the fee, because unlike past years when it was hit or miss if the organizer's are going to make anything or even break even for this event, its not going to happen this year.
Now this statement gets me a little peeved, whats this mean? I didn't realize the
Organizers were in a business deal to make money, now don't get me wrong but
its a weak argument and completely misplaced in this thread.
I understand it takes time and effort and even money to organize
an event that has the potential to be large. But again this isn't the venue to discuss this..
its a venue to answer the guys post, and up to this point I think I'm the only one to do so.

carchck7

05-27-2003, 01:08 AM

a schedule of events like last year's does cost money. The organized bumper cars trip, the food, the tent to rent, the hotel parking lot. There is no schedule of events pertaining to that day other than shirts, a free give away that was donated (I don't know steve's plan for it yet), and the contest you're organizing. No one has offered anything, save Henry with the cruise idea, that doesn't cost money.

hamill

05-27-2003, 01:22 PM

I know you have 1 raffle prize coming from me :)

I just haven't seen Pierre yet to pay him cash as I do not have paypal, nor a US account to send a cheque.

carchck7

05-27-2003, 01:27 PM

hamill:

pierre is not organzing this year's CF, its Brad, riverrojo, and steve. Can you possibly send a money order?

PuckPuck

05-27-2003, 01:29 PM

Just to let everyone know... i shelled out nearly 3000$$$ custom_images/emoticons/shocked.gif custom_images/emoticons/shocked.gif last year out of my own pocket.

Yes that money was repaid however it was my money out of my bank account for 2 months before i got it back.

Theses shows are not cheap.

DNNYBOY33

05-27-2003, 01:34 PM

Don't I know it Puck Puck! I have a $500 deposit for the dyno! There are some things planned allready that people can plan on though. On Saturday the 19th there will be an all day dyno, a strut bag installation demo and 2 detailing demos by the detailing dude. (I haven't heard from him in a while but I'm sure he's still down.) Saturday will be an eventful day I'm sure.

MercMobile

05-27-2003, 05:05 PM

Originally posted by: PuckPuck
Just to let everyone know... i shelled out nearly 3000$$$ custom_images/emoticons/shocked.gif custom_images/emoticons/shocked.gif last year out of my own pocket.

Yes that money was repaid however it was my money out of my bank account for 2 months before i got it back.

Theses shows are not cheap.Absolutely.. and I can vouch for that if anyone doubts him... Ford kept saying they would give us some money.. unfortunately pierre didn't get that check until the week AFTER Cougarfest..

I would have no issues doing the same.. unfortunately I have no money to front..

Mike

05-28-2003, 10:04 PM

So whats the tally now? Has the e-mail helped? :shrug:

Excelcier

05-29-2003, 02:05 PM

Boy I'm glad I pre-paid 2 months ago! I look at it this way, if people can't afford to commit on a lousy $30, then you shouldn't even be in the NECO group. Most people will blow more than that on cleaning products on their car, not to mention the hundreds and thousands of dollars most people put into modding your car.

mcon99

05-29-2003, 03:46 PM

Originally posted by: Excelcier
Boy I'm glad I pre-paid 2 months ago! I look at it this way, if people can't afford to commit on a lousy $30, then you shouldn't even be in the NECO group. Most people will blow more than that on cleaning products on their car, not to mention the hundreds and thousands of dollars most people put into modding your car.

AMEN my brother!

:bowdown:

Sunni

05-29-2003, 04:05 PM

I look at it this way, if people can't afford to commit on a lousy $30, then you shouldn't even be in the NECO group

Yeah, God forbid someone fall on hard times, or have more pressing commitments.....much less BILLS TO PAY.......... I think I will go ahead and take this opportunity to apologize for all of NECO who doesn't have the extra money right now.

Will someone call my landlord, the company that financed my car, my credit card companies, the electric company, the phone company, the water company and tell them I have more important things to do with my thirty dollars than pay them.

Oh wait, maybe if I don't eat, don't buy gas, soap, coffee, groceries, toilet paper and all of the other things I need to use every day........THEN I will have MOOOOOOORE than enough to get my priorities straight.

I had no idea being in a car club was only for those with extra cash.

Out of all of the $hit comments that have been posted in the CougarFest forum, I think this one takes the cake. :slap:

Do everybody a favor, don't criticize people that live day to day...paycheck to paycheck....some people may not have the money right now....maybe baby food & diapers are more important to them.....

maybe some of us don't know if we can attend yet, and thats why we haven't paid...........but I will NEVER assume, as I hope most, that if I don't have a "measly" thirty bucks, then I am not worthy to participate in NECO.

And for the record...this isnt a "lousy" thirty bucks....this is $30 for the registration, time and money taking time off work, gas money for the drive, money to eat, hotel, etc...........so this all adds up for the attendees as well....maybe some people don't know if they can afford this meet just yet.

Seth

05-29-2003, 04:10 PM

Pinhy

05-29-2003, 09:00 PM

Originally posted by: Sunni

I look at it this way, if people can't afford to commit on a lousy $30, then you shouldn't even be in the NECO group

Yeah, God forbid someone fall on hard times, or have more pressing commitments.....much less BILLS TO PAY.......... I think I will go ahead and take this opportunity to apologize for all of NECO who doesn't have the extra money right now.

Will someone call my landlord, the company that financed my car, my credit card companies, the electric company, the phone company, the water company and tell them I have more important things to do with my thirty dollars than pay them.

Oh wait, maybe if I don't eat, don't buy gas, soap, coffee, groceries, toilet paper and all of the other things I need to use every day........THEN I will have MOOOOOOORE than enough to get my priorities straight.

I had no idea being in a car club was only for those with extra cash.

Out of all of the $hit comments that have been posted in the CougarFest forum, I think this one takes the cake. :slap:

Do everybody a favor, don't criticize people that live day to day...paycheck to paycheck....some people may not have the money right now....maybe baby food & diapers are more important to them.....

maybe some of us don't know if we can attend yet, and thats why we haven't paid...........but I will NEVER assume, as I hope most, that if I don't have a "measly" thirty bucks, then I am not worthy to participate in NECO.

And for the record...this isnt a "lousy" thirty bucks....this is $30 for the registration, time and money taking time off work, gas money for the drive, money to eat, hotel, etc...........so this all adds up for the attendees as well....maybe some people don't know if they can afford this meet just yet.

ditto here too...if we arent sure we will be able to go...whether that be for financial reasons or work reasons or other commitment reasons....are we still supposed to pay the "lousy $30" ?

no offense, but since you Windsor, Ontario guys (mconn & excelcier) are so rich, how about paying my "lousy $30" since i have been unemployed for 2 months? i would greatly appreciate it and will pay you back when i get there...but if for some reason i dont, then i am sure that "lousy $30" shouldnt be too much burden for you right?

Rikenbomb

05-29-2003, 10:04 PM

MercMobile

06-01-2003, 01:54 AM

Originally posted by: Rikenbomb

Don't I know it Puck Puck! I have a $500 deposit for the dyno! There are some things planned allready that people can plan on though. On Saturday the 19th there will be an all day dyno, a strut bag installation demo and 2 detailing demos by the detailing dude. (I haven't heard from him in a while but I'm sure he's still down.) Saturday will be an eventful day I'm sure.

These look like some events, Perhaps we put it on a schedule and there you have it folks a schedule of events!!You don't need a schedule of events for the dyno.. as dnnyboy said.. it's an All day dyno.. there is still way to much in the air to try and set up a schedule of events.. as the date get's closer there will be one.

8BaLL

06-02-2003, 05:51 AM

Originally posted by: EricF

"hey so how many free burgers can I eat"

Well, not to be a smart a$$ here, but if i pay my money , really how much can i eat ? :rofl:

jojolmnop

06-02-2003, 01:29 PM

we can always run to sams club to grab a load of food with whatever money we have.

Crispy

06-12-2003, 04:25 PM

As stressed as I was about organizing HCKC it came off completely hitch free... we had zero problems with registration prior and paying at the door for the event...

unfortunately I think there was only 1 person that didn't get the grab bag with raffle ticket cuz we ran out.. a few of us didn't eat the 16.00 buffet that was catered but that was our choice... I ended up spending about 1500.00 outta my own pocket but I got it all back now..

I was close to tears at the event cuz of all the responsibility and the fact that I didn't get to enjoy the event as a participant but I learned alot.. I wish there was some way that I could offer some help in your organizing but I sincerely am unsure if I can attend yet.. Your event is larger, yes.. but there are more organizers than we had and I did not anticipate the turn out we had. About 60% of our people paid at the door and we charged a larger fee for that option as well.. I think it was pretty decent for our first event and myself never organizing anything before.

Good Luck on this and if I can help at all please let me know..

Nemesis

06-12-2003, 05:01 PM

Originally posted by: mcon99

Originally posted by: Excelcier
Boy I'm glad I pre-paid 2 months ago! I look at it this way, if people can't afford to commit on a lousy $30, then you shouldn't even be in the NECO group. Most people will blow more than that on cleaning products on their car, not to mention the hundreds and thousands of dollars most people put into modding your car.

AMEN my brother!

:bowdown:

god i hope this isnt the attitude when i come up there to meet everyone. Im probably not the only one that feels this way , but Ill go ahead and say it. I sincerely hope that non of the bull crap that goes on around in this forum leaks out when we all meet. Cause some of the people ( Im not mentioning any names) have really pissy attitudes that really is not necessary. Cougarbash kicked ass and everyone was extremely nice and were a pleasure to meet. I hope that Cougarfest can provide at least half that, or itll probably turn out to be a huge dissapointment for most.

Being a college student, its hard for me to save up money for these things. Hotel rooms, food costs, and gas prices being as high as they are does not help me get there any quicker, but Im sure if people are able to they will send in the money. There is no reason at all to talk down to them or say that if they cant afford 30 buks that they dont belong on NECO. That is one of the most ignorant and idiotic comments I have heard. Im not trying to be an ass about this, but when you come out and say something that powerful it cant be taken lightly.

Some people may think 30 buks is lousy but I dont.

mcon99

06-12-2003, 07:03 PM

you know what, I agree, some harsh statements have been made.

I think this is what Merc and everyone is trying to get across:

Question: Are you going to Cougarfest?

1. No, definitly not. No reason to pay.

2. Maybe, unsure due to one or many factors. No reason to pay up front.

3. Yes, I am, already have timed booked off work and hotel booked. Then PLEASE get your $30 in RIGHT NOW because you have no excuse!!!

As long as everyone who would pick answer #3 paid up, then hopefully that would be enough seed money to get everything moving nicely. Why would you be planning on going and not pay up front? That makes no sense.

And yes, I think everyone realizes that everyone is in a different situation - in my case I had most of my vacation booked the second week of January this year, including a week for Cougarfest, and I had all the hotels for the places I'm stopping on the way there (New York and Washington) booked by February 14th!! Early bird catches the worm (and good travel deals). Is this advance planning? Yes. Can everybody do that kind of advance planning? Probably not. Although I feel sorry for you if you can't...

I'm going to shut up now because although I could say some more logical things people seem to sometimes take them the wrong way :confused: