View Full Version : Smoked a new Tib
Furious1
03-05-2003, 05:30 PM
Was cruisin on the highway at ~75 when a new Tib got on off the onramp. This guy immediately got on it up to 80 and started cruisin but driving kinda hard cutting through traffic. Well I kept up a little back. Then traffic cleared and I pulled myself past him about a car to see if he'd go for it. He did. My fuel pump was making the car buck (new one's going in fri 8am sharp :banana: ) but I said screw it, and put the pedal where it counts. When I stepped on it, he was even with me and already on momentum. Even with the car bucking, I pulled on him about 3-4 cars from ~80-120. Then I just cooled off and he did a ricer flyby. He looked stock.
B3NN3TT
03-05-2003, 05:34 PM
And with that, the age-old question is answered. Even with a crippled fuel pump, the Ford V6 takes the KO-rean top-end.
Nice kill, Furious1.
gyger
03-05-2003, 07:24 PM
Even with a crippled fuel pump, the Ford V6 takes the KO-rean top-end.
dude that was great
NICE KILL dude!!!!
EvilDylan
03-05-2003, 10:25 PM
sounds like you raced a 4 cyl haha
2Cudas
03-05-2003, 10:56 PM
Hmm, unless this was an inline 4, I doubt you would beat a V6, especially with a bad fuel pump.
Originally posted by: 2Cudas
Hmm, unless this was an inline 4, I doubt you would beat a V6, especially with a bad fuel pump.
The V6 Tib has horrible gearing, the same power, and slightly less weight. The Cougar is VERY strong at high speeds, hell I hung with a 00 GT Mustang 70+, and I am completly stock. That same Mustang will kill me of the line, but at high speeds...the Cougar is a very strong car.
GrandMasterKhan
03-06-2003, 12:44 AM
yeah i would agree the cougar has dammn good top end.
AND i heard that from a guy who was driving a Mustang GT trying to keep up with a cougar on the highway...he did gain but he was like DAANNGG
EvilDylan
03-06-2003, 01:01 AM
once again fett where on earth do you get this information that the tiburon has bad gearing? I wouod love to know where you see this HORRIBLE gearing. and hanging with a gt mustang after 70 isnt impressive at all.....mustangs are all dogs after 3rd gear.
but first off id like to address where you have this magic information that says the tib has horrible gearing? I ran 14.4 in the 1/4 does that sound like bad gearing?
Driving one, Acura/Honda techs (those who work on them), and various other people and experiences. The gearing is off, there is no consistancy in the gears, some seem to short, some seem too tall. Overall, it would be a quicker car, off the line, if it had better gearing. Hell a more balanced 5-speed would have been a better choice for that engine. Simply put, it is not matched to the powerband of that engine very well, they could have done a better job.
I heard, so don't hold me to this one, but I heard that the tranny and gearbox was designed for the more powerful Tuscani engine....which was supposed to be in the new American Tib. Supposedly it is much better matched to that engines powerband. Again, that is something that I was told by a tech, so that is purely second hand info.
Other than that I think the Tib is a nice car, especially for what you pay for one. I mean, you get decent power, nice options, and an outstanding warranty (even though there are a ****load of loopholes and rules you must follow). The only downfalls with the Tib would be the interior, which even Tub owners agree has a very cheap feel to it....and the paint-by-numbers design. Unfortunatly that is the case with just about EVERY small sports car out there today, they all look alike in a lot of ways. Cougar, Celica, Eclipse, Tib, Accord, and so on and so on.
But overall, a very nice car....so don't get your coochie all twisted in a knot...I wasn't insulting you or your precious little car. Don't take my opinions, beliefs, and knowledge personally.
I ran 14.4 in the 1/4 does that sound like bad gearing?
Good for you. Are you stock, what conditions, any other variables you care to share? I would love to see the slip from that one....all the stock Tibs I have seen are running high 15s to mid 16s. TO shave a full second off your time you are either the greatest driver on Earth, have mods, or have a freak of a tranny/engine.
Again, don't get all pissy......the last thing I want to do is upset you, I wouldn't want you breaking your keyboard or anything over a simple discussion.
EvilDylan
03-06-2003, 01:40 AM
Originally posted by: Fett
Driving one, Acura/Honda techs (those who work on them), and various other people and experiences. The gearing is off, there is no consistancy in the gears, some seem to short, some seem too tall. Overall, it would be a quicker car, off the line, if it had better gearing. Hell a more balanced 5-speed would have been a better choice for that engine. Simply put, it is not matched to the powerband of that engine very well, they could have done a better job.
I heard, so don't hold me to this one, but I heard that the tranny and gearbox was designed for the more powerful Tuscani engine....which was supposed to be in the new American Tib. Supposedly it is much better matched to that engines powerband. Again, that is something that I was told by a tech, so that is purely second hand info.
Other than that I think the Tib is a nice car, especially for what you pay for one. I mean, you get decent power, nice options, and an outstanding warranty (even though there are a ****load of loopholes and rules you must follow). The only downfalls with the Tib would be the interior, which even Tub owners agree has a very cheap feel to it....and the paint-by-numbers design. Unfortunatly that is the case with just about EVERY small sports car out there today, they all look alike in a lot of ways. Cougar, Celica, Eclipse, Tib, Accord, and so on and so on.
But overall, a very nice car....so don't get your coochie all twisted in a knot...I wasn't insulting you or your precious little car. Don't take my opinions, beliefs, and knowledge personally.
im not taken it personally, first off. honda/acura techs?
its a hyundai
The tuscani and tiburon are the exact same car, the only difference is the tuscani has options like heated seats, a phone jack for your car, silver dash, multi guage etc.... the motor is the exact same, the transmission is the exact same. all tiburons come with 170 hp. Its also available in a 5 speed for the v6 as well.
im not pissed at all, im jsut wondering where you got this information. but by the sounds of you talking ot an acura tech about a hyundai automobile makes me wonder. theonly problem i have with the gearing is 5-6 its a very short transition and i find myself skipping 5th gear in city traffic. but 1-4 is perfect and very consistent almost a 1500 drop every gear which lands perfectly in the powerband.
i mean if the initial gearing was off then why are most tib owners pulling 2.2 60' times which is a decent time for a FWD car.
as for my car , my mods are an intake lightweight rims and exhaust and gutted cats with some weight removal (jack, spare, backseat)
heres my slip. my tib is silver.
http://bellsouthpwp.net/d/i/dilland/timeslips.jpg
Oh I forgot, the Tib also has great TQ....180 or something like that. But has anybody actually dynoed a stock one? I remember they first announced it as a 180 hp car...only to admit it had 170...I wonder anout the tq. Just curious.
EvilDylan
03-06-2003, 01:48 AM
dyno on a stock tib is about 148 whp and 162 wtq
with an intake and exhaust it goes to about 170 whp and 185 wtq
Yea, around here there are no Hyundai service depts, they all use Acura service. It seems that there is an Acura dealer either across the street, or within two blocks. The dealerships are just that, and one of them has a lube deck...but no real service dept. So all the owners are instructed to take it to the Acura dealership. I talk to a lot of other parts depts and service depts, so I get most of my info there.
When I was looking into buying a tib, I spent a lot of time researching one, and spent a few hours in one (two actually....besides the point). To me the gears were inconsistent, and that feeling was backed up by the techs I talked to. From what I understand, the tuscani has more power than the American version. Almost like comparing the SVT Contour to the normal V6 Contour....same engine, same tranny...but a few changes create the extra 30hp.
As I said, I like the car..hell I spent a lot of time arguing in favor of the tib here on these boards. I just think that it could use a better tranny. I also feel the same about the Celica gts, but the gts is a quicker car overall..and you can tell just by driving it. The Cougar on the other hand drives heavy, and is slow off the line....but it has the goods at high speeds. I don't think that a Cougar beating a tib at high speeds is unbelievable feat, that is exactly what I would think would happen.
Originally posted by: EvilDylan
dyno on a stock tib is about 148 whp and 162 wtq
with an intake and exhaust it goes to about 170 whp and 185 wtq
tq jumps that much with an intake and exhaust? Damn, I would have thought it would have gone up but not at such a percentage...compared to the hp increase.
EvilDylan
03-06-2003, 01:58 AM
i never said that it losing at high speeds is unbelievable either but i dont know where you get this HORRIBLE gearing. to be honest to run a 14.4 with the hp and torque that im putting down you have to have damn good gearing to pull that off.
and i hate to tell you this but there absolutely no difference in the power of the tuscani and tiburon. no way no how.
ive had this car ofr over a year, and i thinkt he gearing is pretty nice.
ND4SPD
03-06-2003, 09:59 AM
just to chime in here for a second...
I LOVE the fact that you actually POSTED your time slips... i think you are the first (non-cougar) person EVER to post 1/4 times when someone asks to see them... :bowdown:
gyger
03-06-2003, 10:53 AM
Hmm well I'd like to see the Tib run a 14 because the fastest I've seen was a 15.8 or 15.9
Ohio must just have horrible drivers cause I always hear about how fast EVERYONE elses
WRX, Tib, and Cougars are but at the track I HAVEN'T seen a Tib run 14's a stock WRX
run 14's and I haven't seen a Cougar run 14's. It must be our state because the elevation
for Norwalk Race Way is perfect soo these cars should run excellent times. I was just wondering
(not accusing) why are the other cars on the slips labeled (camaro and fbird) and yours is just
called silver?
Either way Furious Nice race the guy tried and you shot him down.
EvilDylan
03-06-2003, 02:30 PM
i guess cause the tib isnt a well known car, if youd like videos i have those too.
SpruceCougar
03-06-2003, 02:30 PM
Sorry, but I have to chime in here since I have a Mustang GT
I dont know how you guys can remotely think of even hanging with a 99+ GT...at any speed! When I had my cougar...I was able to hang with a 98 GT with an automatic...but I was still struggling. There's no comparison whatsoever.
i hate to tell you this but there absolutely no difference in the power of the tuscani and tiburon. no way no how.
sorry, but it has some difference in the power.. I am Korean, and I can read Korean Hyundai tuscani website. they saying tuscani has 175HP, even American tiburon has 170HP.
and here is link, if u can read Korean I hope
175 (http://tuscani.hyundai-motor.com/tuscani/)
click exterior and then click engine. u can see 175/6,000
EvilDylan
03-06-2003, 03:58 PM
5 hp lost through the catalytic convertor due to stricter emissions in the states.
im talking about the tuscani is not tuned any stronger than the tiburon. its not like the difference between an ITR and a GSR. the motor has the exact same internals and when you take a motor from the states and put it on a dyno and take a motor from korea they will dyno exactly the same. granted you have the same exhaust and intake systems.
TeamCSP
03-06-2003, 06:11 PM
I dont see where you get off calling that a kill. Its not like you challanged hi mto a race or that it was a true test of speed. All your doing is seeing which car has a better torque which is pretty futile. If you'd ask a tiburon owner who's had other cars before they'll tell you the gear ratio's are fine, not horrible, and you can't call it a ricer flyby if you pulled an "I passed him on the highway so I can outrace him." If you challenge a stock tiburon to a 1/4 mile or a track race you'll notice it'll be right behind you if not ahead of you concidering the fuel problems your having. Also the 5 more horsepower the tuscani has would make up for the extra weight.
B3NN3TT
03-06-2003, 06:35 PM
Jeez, Furious, you've hit a hornet's nest, man!
Don't pick on the Tiburon drivers!
Although I DID see a pretty nappy 2nd gen today at the gas station- aluminum park-bench wing, black with nasty red vinyl graphics, painted gutter grilles, blue turn signals... :puke: People can sure bastardize a car with enough cash and a proximity to Pep Boys.
Originally posted by: TeamCSP
I dont see where you get off calling that a kill. Its not like you challanged hi mto a race or that it was a true test of speed.
Did he still beat the guy, yes. Not all 'races' have to occur from a dead stop and go 1/4 mile in a straight line. Therefore, it was a kill.
Have a nice day :wave:
FrostyCoug
03-06-2003, 06:58 PM
Anyone, whether it be ATX or MTX can smoke a tiburon, Their engines were overrated V6 w/ 150hp and V4 w/ 120hp. Oh well good race anyways.
Blackcoog
03-06-2003, 07:23 PM
I pulled up next to one but he was to scared to race. Good thing ;)
EvilDylan
03-06-2003, 07:24 PM
Originally posted by: FrostyCoug
Anyone, whether it be ATX or MTX can smoke a tiburon, Their engines were overrated V6 w/ 150hp and V4 w/ 120hp. Oh well good race anyways.
um you are WAY off.
the rating originally was 181 hp its actually 170, as for the 4 cyl (V4 WTF??!?) it was reated at 142 hp and actually had 138.
Faboo
03-07-2003, 02:13 AM
Originally posted by: EvilDylan
i guess cause the tib isnt a well known car, if youd like videos i have those too.VIDS...go for it......email me if u want...
Oh my Christ....what the hell happened here? Oh I know, a bunch of people got all pissy because they feel that their car was made fun of. I am talking about ALL owners here, Mustang, Tib, Cougar.
Let's get something straight.
If someone calls your make and model car into question, THEY ARE NOT PICKING A FIGHT WITH YOU PERSONALLY!!! For Christs sake, I grow tired of reading the same ****, from the same merry band of morons.
"My _________ is no joke...you can't beat me...my car is better than yours is!"
Get a grip people, if you are that insecure that comparing your car in a "my calk is bigger than yours is" argument...then by all means, kill yourself. You are doing no good on this planet, and you will end up sucking dick for coke by the age of 35.
Now...that said......
Can a Cougar hang with a Mustang at high speeds? Yes it can...get over it. The Mustang is a pretty fast car, but overrated overall. Quick 1/4 mile....but after that it pretty much dies. They are quarter horses, simply put.
Are Tibs faster than Cougars, or vice versa? Yes, on both accounts. They are very close in stock form, it really is a drivers race. In my experience, it takes a lot of practice and knowing the Tib to make it quick, the Cougar is a much easier car to race, by comparison.
Now on to more important issues.....
Originally posted by: FrostyCoug
Anyone, whether it be ATX or MTX can smoke a tiburon, Their engines were overrated V6 w/ 150hp and V4 w/ 120hp. Oh well good race anyways.
WHAT THE PHUCK IS FROSTYCOUGAR DOING POSTING HERE??!?! Did you forget...you already ripped off members here, maybe you forgot.
Same name, same icon, same moronic posts......if it looks like a duck, sounds like a duck, and walks like a duck....
my opinion is
I like both of them. Tib engine has 2.7 and Cougar has 2.5, but same HP.
That's why I choose Cougar.
even Tib has more TQ It doesn't make big diff
for exam, rsx-s has 135TQ I am not sure but almost
whatever rsx-s can beat both of Tib and Cougar easily, I mean stock vs stock
EvilDylan
03-07-2003, 03:37 AM
dear jesus fett chill out,
i have never gotten pissed. the entire point in me replying at all was because of you claiming they had HORRIBLE gearing. and i jsut wanted to knwo where you got the info. Chill im not mad at all, the tib and coug are pretty equally matched so i dont believe that the race can go either way. read my first post again and see what it says. i only wondered about the horrible gearing thing you came up with.
faboo heres your vids.
14.50 (http://www.gt03.com/movies/14.50.avi)
14.6 (http://www.gt03.com/movies/14.6.avi)
TennisMenace
03-07-2003, 03:45 AM
Ok everyone take a deep breath...
Thats better...
Lets play nice kids. My car's faster then both of yours. :cool:
Nemesis
03-07-2003, 02:04 PM
Originally posted by: FrostyCoug
V6 w/ 150hp and V4 w/ 120hp. Oh well good race anyways.
hehehe he said V4 :rofl:
SpruceCougar
03-07-2003, 02:25 PM
Fett, I'm in no way taking this personally at all. I dont need to stand behind my car to feel more powerful if that's what you're getting at. I'm just talking from pure experience (since owning both cars). If you ask me I think your pipe dream of a Cougar (or Tib) hanging with a late model mustang GT is just that--a dream. My car certainly pulls harder on the upper end of the powerband as well. Can you do 100 in 3rd gear? Hmm...I'd like to see your expression when youre "hanging" and I'm doing 70 and I drop it to 3rd? My modded Cougar was running a best of 15.6 at like 89 mph, and I had to shift to 4th to do that. Not only that my Mustang tops out at 155, as opposed to 143 in the Cougar. If you look at 0-100 times of the Cougar vs. Mustang GT (I believe there was one posted here with the RSX too) you'll notice a large difference in times. And if you can explain that the huge difference in time is only from 0-70 then I'd like to hear it.
Frank
03-07-2003, 02:37 PM
Originally posted by: SpruceCougar
Sorry, but I have to chime in here since I have a Mustang GT I dont know how you guys can remotely think of even hanging with a 99+ GT...at any speed! When I had my cougar...I was able to hang with a 98 GT with an automatic...but I was still struggling. There's no comparison whatsoever.
Oh yeah... when I rode in it, the party was just getting started in 3rd!
Frank
03-07-2003, 03:30 PM
Originally posted by: EvilDylan
dear jesus fett chill out, i have never gotten pissed. the entire point in me replying at all was because of you claiming they had HORRIBLE gearing. and i jsut wanted to knwo where you got the info. Chill im not mad at all, the tib and coug are pretty equally matched so i dont believe that the race can go either way. read my first post again and see what it says. i only wondered about the horrible gearing thing you came up with. faboo heres your vids. 14.50 (http://www.gt03.com/movies/14.50.avi) 14.6 (http://www.gt03.com/movies/14.6.avi)
Damn, those are some good times... especially considering how sloppy your shifting was! ;)
RiceEater
03-07-2003, 04:32 PM
i was playin with a tibron last week as well newer one "gt". he had a lil work done im still stock. i was keepin up with him no more then a half car behide him. i think both cars stock cougar has the tibron. my buddy has and 97 and a few things done to him im goin to the track soon to see what he has keep in mind i still stock guys sorry...
new stangs i dont race other domestic unless they are lil puck azz kids or ricers want a bes...
good kill guys
2Cudas
03-07-2003, 05:46 PM
" Ok everyone take a deep breath...
Thats better...
Lets play nice kids. My car's faster then both of yours. "
But not faster then me......;)
EvilDylan
03-07-2003, 11:46 PM
Originally posted by: Frank
Originally posted by: EvilDylan
dear jesus fett chill out, i have never gotten pissed. the entire point in me replying at all was because of you claiming they had HORRIBLE gearing. and i jsut wanted to knwo where you got the info. Chill im not mad at all, the tib and coug are pretty equally matched so i dont believe that the race can go either way. read my first post again and see what it says. i only wondered about the horrible gearing thing you came up with. faboo heres your vids. 14.50 (http://www.gt03.com/movies/14.50.avi) 14.6 (http://www.gt03.com/movies/14.6.avi)
Damn, those are some good times... especially considering how sloppy your shifting was! ;)
you bastard! LOL well on the 14.6 run i missed 3rd AS USUAL i miss 3rd too much. and i think my shifting was pretty decent in the 14.5 run.
sounds can be deceiving.
KoochieCivic
03-08-2003, 12:24 AM
heh look who's already having a wack off fest http://www.newtiburon.com/yabbse/index.php?board=3;action=display;threadid=14214. "waaah he beat a tib no way waaah" My god people care about this stupid kind of s**t too much. ITS A DAMN STREET RACE GET OVER IT. Oh and BTW the new tibs are cool. :)
EvilDylan
03-08-2003, 02:04 AM
the weird thing is that guy who started that thread doesnt even own a tib??? strange if you ask me...but im glad he pointed out this forum, my goal is to have a name on ever forum that exists! haha
Se7enCentz
03-08-2003, 09:55 AM
WHAT THE PHUCK IS FROSTYCOUGAR DOING POSTING HERE??!?! Did you forget...you already ripped off members here, maybe you forgot
Dude, what the phuck are you talking about, thats my girl and she didnt rip anyone off, but anyways Dylan your a flat out queer. Join the vortex forums and you'll get flamed. Stay here and whine and you'll get flamed.
EvilDylan
03-08-2003, 01:25 PM
i dont join vw forums cause i dont give a **** about them. and vortex is fukin gay.
Se7enCentz
03-08-2003, 07:03 PM
you dont give a **** about vw b/c you know whether there stock or modded there gonna beat your korean junk, and you dont wanna head over there b/c like i said you'll get flamed. who cares whats gay, whos gay. for all we know you can be gay:disgust:
EvilDylan
03-08-2003, 08:41 PM
lol NO ONE likes vortex cause its a bunch of homos over there. WHY would i go over there to get flamed? Do you have all your braincells? obviously not. OH and last time that i was at the track all the GTi's that i ran against had slower times than i did.
Se7enCentz
03-08-2003, 09:04 PM
Hmm if were gonna hijack this thread and act like babies lets do it in PM's which Im not intrested in doing anyways.
POWERAGE
03-08-2003, 09:23 PM
How come all those guys on that tib board have a relative that owns a cougar or they have owned a cougar or there friend owns a cougar or there g/f owns a cougar. Just something i noticed. Seems if they don't own one they have drivin one. Seems like they are just trying to make up a story to say how the cougars are s**t. Well IMO the cougar is not a bat outta hell but it does have awesome top end. Slow outta the hole i agree but i still think that a coug will smoke a new tib top end. I've beaten alot of cars on the top end but got a haircut off the line by the same car. I think the tib guys on these boards should just go home and talk about how they owned a cougar or they have a relative who owns one or whoever.
scottina99
03-09-2003, 01:18 AM
Thats B.S. dude ...be realistic. I do like the restyle though...those were gay until new style came out
Se7enCentz
03-09-2003, 10:20 AM
frostycougar is not frostycoug, who you all are thinking. frostycougar is female, has a silver cougar w/ 18'' oz superleggras and GC coilovers, she is my girlfriend. so of you that think its frostycoug ask a moderator, check the ips. What a bunch of F U C K I N G retards.
Furious1
03-09-2003, 05:41 PM
Wow. What the hell's going on? Didn't realize Tib owners were that touchy. Oh well. I just wanted to add a few things:
1) I'm not stock.
2) Even though the fuel pump was bad, it still works half the time and when it does buck, it's a quick buck, the car still pulls-I just dont like to do it when bucking.
3) I'll actually give you guys the benefit of a doubt since I never saw the "GT" badging-and note I never said it was a GT to begin with. So it could have been a I4. It did have the stock dual exhaust. Whether or not the I4 come with dual exhaust I have no idea.
4) Trust me when I say this guys DID step on it and raced me with all he had. In fact, after I stopped racing and started slowing down, he kept going and flew by me doing at least 120mph.
EDIT: Oh yeah, upon putting in a new fuel pump this weekend it turns out it was a two fold problem. The fuel pump dying at 1st-2nd gear (other gears pump held up better and rarely died) causing the car to go into a nosedive when at WOT like someone hit the brakes problem was the pump and it is now fixed. The bucking problem seems to be more of a a/f ratio and it is still present. So my fuel pump had no effect on the race.
Yeah, lay off on the FrostyCoug thing, especially scottina, do you even have a clue as to what happened with the original?? Remember it was FrostyCougar from Hawaii that screwed people over, and he has been banned for over a year. Some newbie just happened to pick a bad stigma name.
TennisMenace
03-09-2003, 09:41 PM
EvilDylan and Se7enCentz, lets keep this on topic and keep the flaming to PMs. Thanks.
CougarBoi
03-10-2003, 12:30 AM
Originally posted by: Furious1
Wow. What the hell's going on? Didn't realize Tib owners were that touchy. Oh well. I just wanted to add a few things:
1) I'm not stock.
2) Even though the fuel pump was bad, it still works half the time and when it does buck, it's a quick buck, the car still pulls-I just dont like to do it when bucking.
3) I'll actually give you guys the benefit of a doubt since I never saw the "GT" badging-and note I never said it was a GT to begin with. So it could have been a I4. It did have the stock dual exhaust. Whether or not the I4 come with dual exhaust I have no idea.
4) Trust me when I say this guys DID step on it and raced me with all he had. In fact, after I stopped racing and started slowing down, he kept going and flew by me doing at least 120mph.
EDIT: Oh yeah, upon putting in a new fuel pump this weekend it turns out it was a two fold problem. The fuel pump dying at 1st-2nd gear (other gears pump held up better and rarely died) causing the car to go into a nosedive when at WOT like someone hit the brakes problem was the pump and it is now fixed. The bucking problem seems to be more of a a/f ratio and it is still present. So my fuel pump had no effect on the race.
Good Kill Ivo, his car pulls trust me..........he should be around high 14's maybe a bit faster like 14.75.
Wow, I am amazed how many people do not "get" my posts.....and how ironic it is that people think I am angry. Oh well.....
As for FrostyCoug....or whatever. If I knew that someone using the alias SillyCougar, used the silver Cougar icon, and ripped off members for quite a lot of money.... I wouldn't use the alias SillyCoug, and have the same icon. Food for thought.
EvilDylan
03-10-2003, 01:39 AM
14.7?
sweet ill race him....hehe
Furious1
03-10-2003, 11:38 AM
Originally posted by: CougarBoiGood Kill Ivo, his car pulls trust me..........he should be around high 14's maybe a bit faster like 14.75.
Just wait till we're done your car...I want a 5 min head start :biggrin:
cougarXR7
03-10-2003, 12:46 PM
The cougar can be, and should be faster than a new tib.
CougarBoi
03-10-2003, 01:51 PM
Originally posted by: Furious1
Originally posted by: CougarBoiGood Kill Ivo, his car pulls trust me..........he should be around high 14's maybe a bit faster like 14.75.
Just wait till we're done your car...I want a 5 min head start :biggrin:
About 5sec should sound just right
RiceRacer
03-10-2003, 11:00 PM
Wake up and smell the nitrous people. EvilDylan is spraying or has some other form of fi. 96.8 mph with gutted cats and an exhaust when the car traps 88 ish stock? Yeah ok.
SlvrbULLetizmybaby
03-10-2003, 11:14 PM
my mods are an intake lightweight rims and exhaust and gutted cats with some weight removal (jack, spare, backseat)
ahahahahahahaha, you are claiming 14.4 with only those 3 mods?:bs:
Yea, I remember when i pulled the backseat out of my cougar, I was running 13.8's all day. Too bad I have friends.
No2, that is possible. I obviously can not vouch for his mods....if he is not counting them all or not. However, he posted time slips and videos. No one else has, and I for one respect that. Is the 100% truth coming out? I don't know....but either way, he DID accomplish what he said he did...and proved it.
RiceRacer
03-11-2003, 01:58 AM
This thread was more about stock v stock comparison than anything else. Then this guy jumps in claiming a 14.4 at almost 97 mph with some weight reduction not cat and exhaust to show everyone the superiority of his car. BULLSH!T. He said himself that the tib should dyno around 170 whp with intake exhaust. He claims that he doesnt even have an intake. So lets say 165 whp and thats being generous. The car weighs 3000 lbs stock minus 50 lb weight reduction. Someone explain to me how a 2950 lb car with only 165 whp can hit those times, especially that trap speed. Its not possible. He has slips and videos, so what. I would respect someone who runs mid 15s and is honest about what they have a lot more than I respect this guy. Who cares what he runs with a 50 or 75 shot. Put that much juice on an mtx V6 cougar and it would run similar times.
The mtx V6 tib is an even match for the mtx V6 cougar just like the atx V6s are a good match stock v stock and bolton v bolton. Dont let anyone tell you otherwise.
My 2c.
NorCalCoug
03-11-2003, 02:32 AM
Since the drama here seems to come and go in waves...
Remember folks; keep this civil, or it's locksville. :)
Can we just ban all newbies....and people who take offense at the idea of their car losing to another car.....oh, and people from Wisconsin, we have no need for those people either.
2Cudas
03-11-2003, 09:39 PM
Originally posted by: RiceRacer
This thread was more about stock v stock comparison than anything else. Then this guy jumps in claiming a 14.4 at almost 97 mph with some weight reduction not cat and exhaust to show everyone the superiority of his car. BULLSH!T. He said himself that the tib should dyno around 170 whp with intake exhaust. He claims that he doesnt even have an intake. So lets say 165 whp and thats being generous. The car weighs 3000 lbs stock minus 50 lb weight reduction. Someone explain to me how a 2950 lb car with only 165 whp can hit those times, especially that trap speed. Its not possible. He has slips and videos, so what. I would respect someone who runs mid 15s and is honest about what they have a lot more than I respect this guy. Who cares what he runs with a 50 or 75 shot. Put that much juice on an mtx V6 cougar and it would run similar times.
The mtx V6 tib is an even match for the mtx V6 cougar just like the atx V6s are a good match stock v stock and bolton v bolton. Dont let anyone tell you otherwise.
My 2c.
Ok, I post on newtib.com often, here is my take:
1. It is a known fact, that with basic mods, a great driver, and some weight reduction, tibby's will be running 14's. He has a CAI I think, and exhaust/gutted cats I believe, and lost weight. Your criticizing him, yet you shouldnt, since you know crap about his car, and since every once in a while, some cars just make alot more power then others.
2. My Car traps @ 110-111 with just a cat-back, airlid, and filter, do you wanna try and call B.S. on me, I'll race you, and when you see the high 12 second times you will think twice. (P.S. I dont drive a tibby)
Most of you guys here are cool, but the ones who keep bashing the tib owner, even though he proved how fast his car is, is ridiculous.
EvilDylan
03-12-2003, 12:27 AM
jesus christ people......will you read this ENTIRE THREAD and point out wher ei said my car cant lose?
one more time for those of you that havent learned how to read yet (maybe you will get it this time) my sole purpose in posting in this thread was because of the claim that the gearing int he tiburon was "HORRIBLE", I just wanted to know where he got that claim. I never once said that whoever posted this race was lying i never said it couldnt happen in fact i admitted that it was very possible..especially with all the mods he has.
you people need to grow the hell up, i presented a simple question i wanted to know the origin of the horrible gearing. get over yourselves.
paradigm
03-12-2003, 12:44 AM
evildylan-
99.9999% of all NECO threads become hijacked and warped beyond all comprehension....just like THIS (http://www.fastcougar.com/forums/messageview.cfm?catid=7&threadid=67569) thread. it went from someone posting about racing a cavalier and mutated into a p!ssing contest about MTX vs. ATX.:confused:
it's something in the water at NECO...
EvilDylan
03-12-2003, 12:56 AM
i understand, but theres talk about banning newbies etc...for a reason that is unfounded. I am being accused of saying my car cant be beat when thats the farthest thing from the truth. I asked one question about something that was said....that is all.
this thread has turned to :bs:
I wonder if people "get it" or not sometimes.
As he said, Dylan first posted because he wanted to dispute my claim that the Tib has horrible gearing...which I still stand by. WE discussed it, and we agree to disagree, end of story. He never came on here trying to bash the Cougar, nor really defend the speed possibilities of the Tib....he only wanted to dispute me and my claim about horrible gearing.
99% of the rest of the comments here were posted in a joking manner....if people can't get that then that is their problem.
It's no wonder why I stay out of this forum, it is nothing more than a dick measuring contest.
NorCalCoug
03-12-2003, 02:19 AM
No, it hasn't turned to BS, it's turned into locking material. Two threads in one day. :) Let's try and keep it clean and somewhat civil within the confines of reason, people.