V8 Cougar anybody?!!!!!!! [Archive]

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nadthomas

02-27-2003, 05:21 AM

A supercharged 4.6L mustang V8 in our Cougars!!!!! I don't know anything more about this what the thread (https://www.teamneco.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1680) over at teamneco said, but I think it is a great idea. If you like it email tlively@mindspring.com so he can get an idea of interest of this product. If it were me (which I hope it will be one day) I would much rather have a setup like this. The more options we have, the better right. So lets get this ball rolling'.

But once again I would like to state I don't know anymore about this kit, I just wanted to share it with you.

edit: to fix link

Pinebox

02-27-2003, 11:32 AM

only got one word for that: WOW custom_images/emoticons/shocked.gif

OSUStallion

02-27-2003, 01:18 PM

Yeah its cool .... but honestly I think its a waste of time and money

here is a quote from Crispy. The guy said it would be 5 grand for install. But when looking at the focus page this was at the bottom for a supercharged v-8 (cobra engine) install on a focus.

"you say 5Grand and I see this..

Pricing
As shown $69,500 + doner Focus
Approximate 70 day turn around "

Yeah its prolly a 5 grand install... if you have the V-8, the new subframes, the rear axel... blah blah blah

So baiscally us cougar guys are paying 70k( for v8 package) and 20k for new cougar = 90 thousand dollars. For that I could buy 2 SVT super chraged Cobras and modify them till I die.

nadthomas

02-27-2003, 02:28 PM

Just emailed the people at ATI for clarification of price variations. I well let you know what they tell me.

nadthomas

02-27-2003, 03:28 PM

got a reply back from the people at ATI here's what he said:

"The prices on the website are for turn key cars. The kit for the 5.0 and solid axle in the Focus costs $5,600 approx., depends on some options. The Cougar kit should be similar in cost. Of course, if you want to install an 03 Cobra driveline with Mustang based racing suspension all around, and have all the work done for you, then you get up to the 69k range. I hope you will help to explain that. We are just trying to see how much interest there is in that product."

So it looks like this kit could be done for about 6K plus labor. Just emailed them again to find out what the 5.0 kit includes and labor cost for install of kit. I hope this helps clear somethings up.

edit:check out the time between post exactly 1 hour. That's a pretty quick reply.

nadthomas

02-27-2003, 04:11 PM

or maybe not. It looks like the kit is basically just the mounting brackets and such. Heres another email I just got back a reply on.

"That includes brackets to install a 5.0, manual or auto trans, and solid axle. There are some modified parts for front suspension and steering, along with racing style fuel cell. Our labor charge for that install can vary from $3,200 to $4,000. You would still need the engine, trans +clutch if manual, and axle assembly with brakes. Since you can use salvage parts or new crate components, the kit and labor are listed separately."

Still a very interesting option.

Could someone with a little more mechnical background break this down for me and everyone else who might not quite understand what all is included and what is still need.

Thanks,
Dan

overfiend

02-27-2003, 04:15 PM

now that isnt 6k with engine, driveline, and rear end is it? the 8.8 rear end is pretty cheap and available in used form. the engines are not as available, but anywhere from 2,500 used-5k new i think. now that's gonna be about 10k before labor. that's not much more than a hella built 3.0 and turbo'd...now the latter has more power but u can squeeze more out of the 4.6...and then u have to deciede if you like driving a rwd or fwd car. personally i wouldn't build a v8 cougar until i move to a place that never snows lol

PizzaSlut

03-03-2003, 01:52 PM

One thing that I saw over there was the addition of wider rims/tires. I had 255 width tires on my wheels through store mistake for a day and it was hell. Every bump I hit the back wheels rubbed up against the wheel well. And then everytime I made a turn the opposite side tire hit the wheel well. We'd pretty much be forced to use 235 width tires to try to get that power to the ground. I guess they could modify the body of the car or something though.

Hat1324

03-03-2003, 05:10 PM

Wow pretty cool idea, i've actually seen a few switched. but the price is kinda high.. The kit they showed was for the all around cobra setup
if you look on the siteText (http://www.atimotorsports.com/DesktopDefault.aspx?tabid=77) there is one for the 5.0 v8 also its adding exhaust parts, cheap but does add, especially labor....
for all of you to lazy..

Engine
5.0 small block Ford engine
Carbureted or Fuel Injection
Power steering with Fox rack
A/C available
Room for supercharger

Transmission
C4 Automatic
T5 Manual w/cable operated clutch
Custom aluminum driveshaft

Rear axle
8.8" Mustang w/drum or disc brakes
Cobra IRS option

Exhaust
Manifold or tube header
Single or dual exhaust
Decoy 5" 'Melon Shooter' exhaust tip optional

Pricing
With good salvage components, this project can be done for less than $15,000 total.

IamSPDRCR

03-05-2003, 11:07 PM

That would be AWESOME! I RWD Coug would be sweet. To bad I have no monies....

PuckPuck

03-06-2003, 05:06 PM

put 400hp to the rear wheels in a UNIBODY car.....

let me know after you launch that vehicle for the first time... cause after that, your doors will never shut properly

IamSPDRCR

03-07-2003, 04:34 AM

Oh come on who cares about something so minor as that!...lol

Faboo

03-07-2003, 09:07 PM

Originally posted by: IamSPDRCR
Oh come on who cares about something so minor as that!...lol

w3rd:bowdown:

nadthomas

03-08-2003, 01:14 AM

GnuLoCo

03-09-2003, 02:52 AM

For 15k I would mate the X-type AWD system to the car and boost the piss out of it.. Why the hell would I want RWD, when I can get AWD turbo for the same amount?

[GnuLoCo]

NorCalCoug

03-09-2003, 05:34 AM

Originally posted by: PuckPuck
put 400hp to the rear wheels in a UNIBODY car.....

let me know after you launch that vehicle for the first time... cause after that, your doors will never shut properly

IIRC, the Mustang has been constructed with unit-body (unibody) design since 1979... In fact, there are subframe connector kits that are available to strengthen the unibody available for 79-98 Mustangs since they basically use the same unibody. :)

DEVIOUSDEV

03-09-2003, 05:41 AM

OSUStallion

03-09-2003, 05:19 PM

for 4 gand for install... then there is another boat load of money for all the parts that you need. Plus you need to hunt down EVERY part you need... that sounds like an insane hassel and extremely long and drawn out project. You might as well just drop a turbo 3L in your car and be done with it.

sonza68

03-09-2003, 08:11 PM

Originally posted by: NorCalCoug

Originally posted by: PuckPuck
put 400hp to the rear wheels in a UNIBODY car.....

let me know after you launch that vehicle for the first time... cause after that, your doors will never shut properly

IIRC, the Mustang has been constructed with unit-body (unibody) design since 1979... In fact, there are subframe connector kits that are available to strengthen the unibody available for 79-98 Mustangs since they basically use the same unibody. :)

I actually remember the Mustang being unibody since 1964. I don't think there was ever a body on frame Mustang.

The problem wouldn't be that the Cougar is unibody, the problems would stem from installing a high power RWD drivetrain in a FWD chassis. For the money and effort, I'd sacrifice the rear seat and trunk to add a second motor in the rear.

PuckPuck

03-10-2003, 01:27 PM

The problem wouldn't be that the Cougar is unibody, the problems would stem from installing a high power RWD drivetrain in a FWD chassis. For the money and effort, I'd sacrifice the rear seat and trunk to add a second motor in the rear.

that should of been my statement....

has anyone actually seen the rear subframe on our cars.... it's a whopping one cross member and that's it.... 4 bolts tie it into the unibody.... that kit would need to supply a full rear subframe as well as a way to tie it in "safely" into the car's unibody...

SuiGenris

03-10-2003, 11:27 PM

Ok so with first glance, this just flat out raises the eyebrows :hitit:

Im a newbie, just kicking back wanting to slide a few things into my car to get her scootin at a nice pace. Takin notes on which route to head to first. Turbo? eeh Supercharger? 2.5 SvT convs? 3.0L swap? And now the most outragous but somewhat highest return V-8 drop in. And I'm still wondering which of these for the price is worth the return. Sure you'll be hitting 500hp but I don't have 15k to throw around I would have gotten a bike and a turbo and been sitting pretty:shrug:. So affordabilty is my chief concern on that note.

If there was a way to drop the $$ to under 8k hell under 10k I might pay attention but til then wow... be sure and let me know the turn out, seriously after the lottery we'll talk...

Originally posted by: GnuLoCo
For 15k I would mate the X-type AWD system to the car and boost the piss out of it.. Why the hell would I want RWD, when I can get AWD turbo for the same amount?

[GnuLoCo]

all wheel drive turbo? custom_images/emoticons/shocked.gif

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