Acura Integras - not a problem

[ND4SPD]

comming home from college today... i was behind a 2dr integra, commando wing, eichibahn (sp?) steering wheel, cd hanging from the rearview mirror etc...

anyway, there were 3 lanes... a soccer mom in lane 1, the integra guy in lane 2, and me in lane 3 (lane 3 was ending up ahead, so i HAD to either pass him, or go behind)... and me, not being one to pass up what could be a good quick race (since we both had manual trans. :) ...i stayed in lane 3.

light goes green and no joke... at the exact same time we both went for it, it was perfect, ... but i think i got more traction cause at the top of 1st gear, he was at my rear wheel, and once i got into 2nd, it was all over... for him :) i didnt even get a ricer flyby either! i was impressed.

i'll say this though... i dont like 1st gear in the cougar, its feels too "weak" but once you get into 2nd then things really start to get going :biggrin:


so yeah... if you have an mtx cougar, see a acura interga, and wonder if you could beat it... go for it, you'll win :)

[Sas]

Good kill

[phant0mzero]

was it a gsr?

[paradigm]

good kill! :biggrin:

all depends on the model of integra though. gsr...type r...then you are not guaranteed a win.

sounds like this guy was all show and no go. no ricer flyby is a bonus, however. :)


quick stats (for 2000 model year):

Integra GS: 140hp ~7.9s
Integra GS-R: 170 hp ~7.1s
Integra TypeR: 195hp ~6.7s

all 3 weighing in at ~2600lbs.


IMHO: GS-R should be a driver's race...the TypeR should be a loss stock-for-stock (unless one driver sucks, etc).

[CULASLUCAS]

A while ago I raced a GSR...seemed to be modded...exhaust, intake prob...that seemed like it coudln't really tell...we were neck and neck until 3rd where I had to double shift because of my syncro problem...I guess he's a crappy driver because there were 3 people and my 175 lb sub setup in the trunk...he just had his skinny asian self.

[paradigm]

I guess he's a crappy driver because there were 3 people and my 175 lb sub setup in the trunk...he just had his skinny asian self.

that's a good assumption if you do the math. GS-R + "skinny asian self" = ~2750lbs. cougar + 3 people + 175lbs sub = ~3600+....that's 850lbs against the cougar...give or take...with cars that are within a few .1 sec 1/4 mile times of each other when stock. :confused:

[Manx]

LOL I love Integras.. last one I got to race was even with me til 2nd and then I pulled away smoothly.. (only running an intake at the time) No ricer flyby.. instead he rolled up at the next light and said good race and asked what I had in my car LOL.. First time someone hasnt given me the one finger salute or some other lame crybaby gesture for losing..

[ND4SPD]

yeah, looked like just the generic (regular) 2door integra, i think him being so light actually screwed him up - the tiny engine didn't weigh enough to give the front wheels traction :tongue:

i like racing those things though...cause its usually close - deffinatly a drivers race anyway - cause i was 100% stock :)

those and if i ever got around to racing one of those little mazda mx-3's - the tiny ones - i dunno if thats the name of them... i hate cars that just have numbers / initals as badging :mad:

edit: t'was a mx3 which i meant...

[Fastam]

you mean the MX-3 right? the MX-6/Probe are the predicesor (sp) to your car. same engines. both based off the contour.

the MX-3 came with a 110HP 1.5L 4cyl, or a 1.8L V6(the worlds smallest V6)with 140HP...whats scary is that in Japan you could get that tiny MX-3 with the Duratec SVT engine...thats right 200HP and 2400lbs. fast little car. a few people have done the swap in North America.

[phant0mzero]

Originally posted by: Fastam
you mean the MX-3 right? the MX-6/Probe are the predicesor (sp) to your car. same engines. both based off the contour.

the MX-3 came with a 110HP 1.5L 4cyl, or a 1.8L V6(the worlds smallest V6)with 140HP...whats scary is that in Japan you could get that tiny MX-3 with the Duratec SVT engine...thats right 200HP and 2400lbs. fast little car. a few people have done the swap in North America.

sorry, but mx-6's don't have a duratec, although they do have a 2.5, it is a mazda engine, kl-03 I believe is the engine code

[ND4SPD]

ya, i mean a 1995ish mazda MX3 ... here posted picture...

i 'think' its comparable to the integra... but lighter - might be fun to race .......and its soooooo cute :biggrin: :rofl:

[GrandMasterKhan]

last i check the mx3 only had 120hp v6

[Kodiak]

the mx3 v6 also came in ATX only as far as i know. as for the cougar and mx6/probe having the same motor, no they dont. phantom is correct on the stock engine code for the mx6/probe is KL-03, it makes 164hp with about 155lb/ft of torque. though they are both 2.5l motors, the cougar out powers the 03 by about 15hp and a little torque, but th mx6 weighs a bit less than the cougar.

[Dekz]

Kodiak: I have a friend with a MTX V6 mx-3
ND4SPD: The mx-3 is called a Precidia (granted it doesn't have that in the badging, but it does say so on the back)

[gyger]

Nice kill mang!!!
I've always wanted to race a stock or modded Integra
any model. My Cougar is pretty modded but I'm sure modded
Type-R would beat me as long as the driver knew his car like
I know mine.

[B3NN3TT]

I pulled a full carlength (enough to merge) on a late-model, pre-RSX integra in the a**hole lane. DRIVING MY SATURN. And yes, he was DEFINITELY going for it.

I think my last Saturn was a Wednesday car. It was a 1.9L MTX, and pretty much all stock. They're just SO LIGHT! And torquey, too. That's why I could always a**hole people in it; the 60-foot times for that thing were off the scale...

[ND4SPD]

Dekz - YA! that was it... the precidia, couldn't remember the name, thanks! :)

Gyger - go find yourself one! its an actually decent car to race against... cause if you mess up, he wins... and if you dont, then you win :)

Bennett - yeah, my father had one of the 'upper class' saturns... still the 4cyl, 4door, mtx etc... but it was nuts, when he'd floor it, i actually FELT it... heh, scariest saturn i'd ever seen :tongue:


Speaking of cars - that new Tiberon, any good to race against?

[paradigm]

the 03 tib v6 has a slight advantage with its gearing, but it would be a driver's race. they are mid-15 sec cars. i think they respond better to mods. their stock tires are much better than a cougar's.

equal weight to a cougar, equal HP, 181 torque, 6spd.

[Fastam]

Originally posted by: phant0mzero

Originally posted by: Fastam
you mean the MX-3 right? the MX-6/Probe are the predicesor (sp) to your car. same engines. both based off the contour.

the MX-3 came with a 110HP 1.5L 4cyl, or a 1.8L V6(the worlds smallest V6)with 140HP...whats scary is that in Japan you could get that tiny MX-3 with the Duratec SVT engine...thats right 200HP and 2400lbs. fast little car. a few people have done the swap in North America.

sorry, but mx-6's don't have a duratec, although they do have a 2.5, it is a mazda engine, kl-03 I believe is the engine code

im gonna have to look into that now. since they are the same car MX6/Probe and they both use a 2.5L V6 i assumed it would be the duratec. hmmmmm makes me look dumb...ah well ,thanx for bringing that to my attention.

[CougarGT]

Originally posted by: Fastam

Originally posted by: phant0mzero

Originally posted by: Fastam
you mean the MX-3 right? the MX-6/Probe are the predicesor (sp) to your car. same engines. both based off the contour.

the MX-3 came with a 110HP 1.5L 4cyl, or a 1.8L V6(the worlds smallest V6)with 140HP...whats scary is that in Japan you could get that tiny MX-3 with the Duratec SVT engine...thats right 200HP and 2400lbs. fast little car. a few people have done the swap in North America.

sorry, but mx-6's don't have a duratec, although they do have a 2.5, it is a mazda engine, kl-03 I believe is the engine code

im gonna have to look into that now. since they are the same car MX6/Probe and they both use a 2.5L V6 i assumed it would be the duratec. hmmmmm makes me look dumb...ah well ,thanx for bringing that to my attention.

They are easily swapped out to a KL-ZE (200 hp) or a KL-03 (165 HP).

[AssassyN]

Nice kill man...and I couldn't agree more with you. Second gear in the Cougar = absolutly amazing.

First gear really doesn't get my blood going, but if I'm rolling 10-15 mph and then slam it into 2nd and go WOT, omg it's like hang on. 2nd gear ownz :biggrin: