Took on a Celica GT-S 2001 model :)

[Raben]

Well was pretty cool, better challenge I think than the volks bug I took on a while back ;)


But was at a traffic light, had just turned red and this guy pulls up in his Celica. . .I didn't know which model it was at the time until after we did our thing as we both stopped to eat at Sonic, but will get to that at the moment. Dude had his windows down as so did I and he revs it once to get my attention. He asks if I was interested in a little race, didn't think he could take me but wanted a shot anyway, said he never tried a Mustang GT before. So was like ok what the hell, I'd race him to the 2nd light and not over 80mph since it's kinda in town.

He says good luck and rolls the windows up, so did I and roll mine as well. Light finally turns green and I was gone :) He never pulled on me from 0 to 80 which was sweet. Soon as I hit 80 I tap the brakes twice then slow on back down to 45 which is the speed limit :) and pull into Sonic a little ways up the street. He pulls in behind me and we both talk alittle about the cars and mods we both are looking into and ate while there. Was pretty cool, and at Sonic was when I saw it was a GT-S plus him going on and on about his first new car, yada yada :) hehe.


Nice friendly race for once, and we both left happy which was cool.

[Capital]

Gee....... fair race V8 against 4cyl. But I guess with an auto GT you have to mess with 4cyl's! To bad you didn't mess with a mod'd 2000 GTS you might have been surprised. My 1/4 mile time was 14.5, a little better then your time. By the way if your racing a new Celica GTS, the 2000 is fastest stock so far. the rev-limiter is set to 8200rpm and the 2002 and I think the 2001 is set to 7800rpm.
Did you race an auto or 6spd GTS? Any mods on the GTS?

[NorCalCoug]

Capital- Who cares if it's a 'fair race' or not, the Celica revved on HIM. Mr. Celica driver should've known better; his stupid fault for losing. When I rev on a Z06 or a Ferrari (for example) I -KNOW- I'm going to lose. Me, I only rev on cars that I know will beat me or will be close.. I let the slower cars rev on me first. If they want a challenge, that's fine, I will respond but I will not instigate.

[Zman]

Gee....... fair race V8 against 4cyl. But I guess with an auto GT you have to mess with 4cyl's!

You know, he comes on here with a nice story about how racing should be. So the kid with the Celica wanted to find out what his car had and so on. There was no slandering or anything on either side. Seems to me like they were very friendly with each other and were just out having fun, so what's the point of making a comment like that, GROW UP!

To bad you didn't mess with a mod'd 2000 GTS you might have been surprised

And step down off of your "Celica's are holier than though" pedestal.

[Blackcoog]

How is your 1/4 of 14.5 better then his 1/4 of 14.5???? The celica is still a turd no matter how you polish it :)

[Capital]

If a Celica is a terd then a Cougar is a huge slow terd with horrible 1/4 mile times, at least what I have seen here!


ZMAN, you're a tool.......Cougar ATX I sure feel sorry for you
Can you beat a stock Civic DX?

When you guys can post a timeslip that is better then mine then we will talk!

[Blackcoog]

LOL....don't you have anything better to do then search boards and start up ****? Anyway you still didn't answer my question as to why 14.5 beats 14.5? Sorry about the turd crack I just had to see your reaction :)

Most people here that have major engine make-overs (like me) are still in the process of getting everything up and running. Paxtoncougar won't be up and running with his new engine until after summer, Streetconcepts turbo setup will be done fairly soon, Kinger is working on a 3.0L setup, JJennings is by far the closest with his monster of a 3.0L putting out much over 260hp by now, and my SVT swap (the motor stock puts out 200hp) should be finished this weekend (emphasis on should) as long as I don't find any more problems hooking up the remaining stuff. Wait a month or two and slips will come.

[Capital]

I thought it said 14.8 but still 14.5 will beat any Cougar on this board, except the one or two that have stuck a whole new engine in ( Can you still call it a Cougar when you stick a whole new engine in????)

[Blackcoog]

stock yes! heavily modded no! Most listed above should beat that.

[Capital]

Its funny I haven't seen any scanned time slips yet! All I have read was a bunch of talk, should've would've could've!!!!!!!! I posted mine, hmmmmmmm

[OrangeCat]

Capital, what is your infatuation with proving that you are faster than most Cougars?

If you can run 14.5, congratuations, that is pretty damn quick for a 4-banger, actually, that is pretty respectable for most cars on the road today.

You know, as well as I, that you will beat 99.5% of all Cougars on the road with that time slip. So why do you keep coming back to tell us. Just remeber, no matter how fast you are, there is always someone faster.

Also, why does the number of cylinders matter, if a V8 beats a 4 banger, then it's unfair, but if a 4 banger beats a V8, we won't hear the end of it. A race is a race, it doesn't matter # of cylinders, what wheels drive the car, if it's NA or Forced Induction or if they are spraying. You either win or lose and that is all that matters. This was just a nice tale of two easy going guys and their race.

[Casey388]

Good call Orange cat. Also how much cheaper is a cougar to buy then a Celica GT-S? Celicas look ok, but they still only have a 4 banger in there. Why go for a little 4 banger when for the same price you could get a heavy modded V-6 or even a V-8. At times i wish i would of got a 88 Stang GT and with all the money i spent on this car, i could have a high 12 second beast.

[Capital]

Your not going to get in the high 12's with an 88 stang, unless you dump alot of $$$ in it.

[NorCalCoug]

You'd be surprised how cheap it is to get a car with a V8 into low numbers, as long as you do the labor yourself.

[KenGSX]

Your not going to get in the high 12's with an 88 stang, unless you dump alot of $$$ in it.

You're full of crap. Mustangs are dragstrip *****s, they are built for that. Gears, H-pipe (no cats), and short shifter is all it takes. For $$$ they can go 11's. For $$$$ they can go 10's or 9's.

Stop trying to justify your car.

[Raben]

Capital

First off I was going to ask where did you come up with your 14.5 was better than my 14.5 hehe, but NorCalCoug handled that question for me, thanks buddy :)

But frist off, he reved at me, he started the conversation about asking for a race, not I. I don't care what kind of car the guy is in, if he revs and asks for a race I'll take it, even if I know I'm going to get beat, it's all good fun and sport.

The GT-S he had was a 2001 model 6 speed stick with just over 2300 miles on it. I looked over it as I do like the cars, I just couldn't drive the thing daily, too tall for this thing :) hehe.

And no he had no mods what so ever, completely stock.



Now the other point you mentioned, your GT-S is 'modded' to reach 14.5 My stang is 'stock' to hit 14.5 and from the research I've done so far, it won't cost me hardly anything to reach the 13s easily. The Mustang was designed for the drag strips, that's her arena :)


And secondly you shouldn't be talking so much trash about the cougars, just making yourself look like a fool. We all know what the Celica can do and we all know what the cougars can do, the mods that are out there and so on.

But there will always be a car faster than yours. Doesn't matter what mods I do to mine, even if I did enough to get into the 9s for the 1/4 someone else would be hitting 8s not that I am going that far anyway. I want to get her in the low 13s to high 12s and keep it there since it's a daily driver.


And as for your car being 14.5 being better than any cougar on this board that is still using the stock 2.5L engine. That may be true but who knows what lies ahead. I've read here that someone has hit 14.5 in his cougar, stock 2.5L V6 with NOS though. But still he did it. To make the car do 1/4 that quick without NOS, yes would be a costly challenge but I'm not going to say it can't be done.


But that's my 2 cents. Good luck with your mods and have fun with the Celica. . . that's the whole point to these things anyway is to have fun no matter what others think.


And now, back to work :)

[OrangeCat]

OK Capital, and how many Celicas in full street trim are we going to see the the 12's???? That's what I thought.

You can cheaply get a V8 in the 12's or 11's, my buddy with a 2001 WS6 with full exhaust, torque converter and cam kit is running high 11's already!!!! I want to see a little Celica do that.

You know, I tried to play nice, this orignal post was an example of great sportsmanship. Neither guy cared how many cylinders the other person had, it was FUN. You on the other hand want us to get on our hands and knees and pray to you and your GTS because you can run 14.5 with a 4-banger! Well guess what, I can get my f---ing MARK VIII running faster than a 14.5 for much less than you paid for a damn GTS, and that is with a 4000 pound car!

You are one of the few people that has to make an excuse for any other car that is faster than yours, it has more cylinders, he put more money into it, etc. If someone in a Cougar runs faster than you, I am sure you will have an excuse for that too. Hey, my Z28 would kick your cars ass, but I am not going to rub it in your face because I am MODEST about it. I know for every car that I can beat, there is someone else who can beat me.

You remind me of the cocky guy on the corvette forums who talked the talk about how the supercharged Civic had no chance against him, then when they ran he got his ass kicked. If the guy was modest and just walked the walk, no one would be making fun of him.

I congratulated you on your 14.5, that is impressive for your car, but you have to bash someone else when they say a Mustang can run in the 12's pretty easily. You know for all the aftermarket support for the "sport compacts" there is twice as much just for 5.0 Mustangs and it is also twice as cheap.

[KenGSX]

You know for all the aftermarket support for the "sport compacts" there is twice as much just for 5.0 Mustangs and it is also twice as cheap.

Awww, you just took his next excuse...

[Instigator]

ill just get supra w/ a T-88 conversion and hand all of you your asses;)

peace

[ND4SPD]

well, ill just strap the afterburners that the NASA space shuttle has on to either side of my car, and i'll make all of your cars look like go-karts :biggrin:

.......until i either travel through time cause im going so fast, or i die in a spectacular fireball :tongue:

[Ghostrider]

Hummm....

Now I'm just a simple farm boy, and do not own a Cougar, but I do have some questions. (I got this thread from a friend of mine who asked for my opinion. Ok, Stick, here it comes.)

1. I don't see how 14.5 is better than 14.5. Please educate me.
2. Two guys having a fun race and not letting their gonads and pride get in their way is commendable. We've got plenty of a-holes out there now that think their vehicle is tied to their gonads, leading them to take foolish risks and endanger others. We don't need any more.
3. Fair has nothing to do with real life, it's run what you brung and quit whining.
4. You might stop by nashpatch one day and show us your vehicle. Heck, I could probably fix you up a run with a GT or 6 and see how they stack up, got a few snakes that are just about always interested in a little "one-on-one", too. Come to think of it, I know a guy with a little old 4 banger Mopar that might be interested. We could even line up three across with you, a GT and my old farm truck. Now my old truck IS a V8, but it does weigh darn near 5000 pounds (I'm guessing near twice what your GTS does.-- 'course I could be wrong on weight).

Several here have said it. I know it's true, and so do most that are into this kind of thing, and that is simply "NO matter how quick you are, no matter how fast you are, no matter how bad you are, there is ALWAYS someone just around the corner quicker, faster, and badder." So either you get your panties in a wad and take everything personally and spend a LOT of time being angry and upset, OR, you learn to relax and enjoy the racing win or lose. Racing adds a special spice to my life, and I don't always have to win to enjoy it.

Of course, maybe I'm just an old fart that can't take the excitement of import racing, or perhaps I am just a mature person who believes in and prefers American iron over anything else in the world.

[STREETEFFECTZ6]

first capital i have a Atx cougar now running 14.5 at 95 mph and i have slip to prove it will post the slip this weekend for ya and a pic of the car doing it

[ZnCoug]

Ok.. Capitals has been removed again.

Grow up.. thread is locked.. any others that start related to this will be deleted. PM if you want to discuss.