C0ugarFest 2009 - Canada!!!

[MaverickFlyer]

So I'd like get an idea if holding CougarFest in Canada is in the realm of possibility. I don't want to do all the leg work if nobody would even consider going. The Canadians have been crossing the boarder for years with out any problems so i don't see any problems going the other way.

There are a lot of good reasons why to have it up here but here are just a few.

1. Drinking age is 19 (Notice I put that as the number 1 reason ;) )
2. I know of at least 3 drag strips and 4 road tracks with in a couple hours of each other in Southern Ontario.
3. Lots of Small towns with cheap hotels that will be close to Tracks but not to far from major cities.
4. Lots to see and do with in driving distances
5. Duty Free
6. Close to U.S. borders
7. Major Airports are close by
8. The Beer Tastes way better up here
9. Something different to see
10. Canadians are just so nice

But will you Americans come???

To Cross the boarder in 2009 you will only need a driver license and birth certificate if you drive. If you fly you need a passport.

If you are under 18, you just need a letter with your parents consent to cross the border.

Here are a couple sites with info on crossing the border.

Canada (http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/cis/cis_1082.html)

Information for crossing the border (http://www.campsronoda.com/Information%20about%20crossing%20the%20border.htm)

So Vote if you would come or not based on it being in Canada and post your reason. Basically if it was the very best proposal and no other options were available would you or would you not go based solely on the fact it's in Canada?

[Lunar Limelight]

I don't know Mav. I'm going to try to go for hamilfest. But probably not for cougarfest. The gas is way more expensive there. Brett is apparently a terrorist and gets both of us searched. I can't say I've liked any food there except what was cooked by Ron, Jenny and Dan. :( But I <3 Canadians! Oh and my dollar isn't worth anything anymore :cry:

[deliveryguy]

I think this would be EPIC. Good idea.

[thousandlegs]

coming from florida to ohio it would only be a few more hours to get to canada. i'm f'd either way so why not.

[CodersCougar]

For once it wont cost me 2 tanks of gas to get there :D

AND IM LEGAL... (well as of AUG 1st it doesnt matter any more :( )

OH OH OH... All you americans can come see out igloo's :cover:












Let's Go to Canada to See the Beaver!!! :hitit:

[Cougargrrl99]

I would consider it.....depends on how many long trips I have planned for next year and what my new job will allow. If I went at all, it would be on a plane, not driving.

There is certainly a big Cougar crowd in Canadia.

[Lunar Limelight]

I would consider it.....depends on how many long trips I have planned for next year and what my new job will allow. If I went at all, it would be on a plane, not driving.

There is certainly a big Cougar crowd in Canadia.

MC and Ohio draw the biggest turn out for fest.

[MaverickFlyer]

There is certainly a big Cougar crowd in Canadia.

Yes there is, and even more that don't make the trip down to Cougarfest each year.

I think it would be something New, Something different, something exciting. I'm sure all my fellow Canadians would be more than happy to make sure it was a memorable event for everyone. ;)

MC and Ohio draw the biggest turn out for fest.

Both within close proximity to Southern Ontario!

[CodersCougar]

MC and Ohio draw the biggest turn out for fest.


And they are sooo close to canada :biggrin::biggrin::biggrin:

[Lunar Limelight]

I'de only go if it was in Windsor. I hate dealing with the border. We would all be loosing money. Who knows what our dollar would be worth by next summer.

[madcustomz]

i would go for sure its not to far for me probally closer than indy.

[MaverickFlyer]

I'de only go if it was in Windsor. I hate dealing with the border. We would all be loosing money. Who knows what our dollar would be worth by next summer.

It's at Par right now and i don't think it's going to drop any more. Once you guys get a new President it will probablly spike back up. ;)

Windsor is actually further than most places in Ontario from Ohio. You can cross at Niagara Falls/ Buffalo. Once you're across the boarder you can go anywhere.

[B3NN3TT]

There is certainly a big Cougar crowd in Canadia.

How many cars this year... 10? We drove that many in from Ohio.

[Nemesis]

Wow.... no thanks. The Southeast crew has been driving 12+ hours every year for Fest and never once complained. Its time Fest makes its way further South and give us a break. Pigeon Forge was one year before me, and honestly it would be nice to have it in Tenneesee or North Carolina.

[Lunar Limelight]

Ohioians VS Canadians. Rawr.

[Nemesis]

I havent flown out of the country in forever and getting a passport isnt something I want to do, and driving from Atlanta to Canada is about as ridiculous as asking me to swim across the pacific.

[Cougargrrl99]

How many cars this year... 10? We drove that many in from Ohio.

I don't know how many, I'm just saying that I realized there were alot of Canadians there. I know there were big crowds from OH and MI too.

[MaverickFlyer]

Wow.... no thanks. The Southeast crew has been driving 12+ hours every year for Fest and never once complained. Its time Fest makes its way further South and give us a break.

I've never complained about the driving time. That's not my motivation for having it up here. Just want to change things up a bit and make it more interesting. ;)

I believe it was in Virginia Beach in 03 and Pigeon Forge on 02, those were all pretty far south. :tongue:

[BigBalledOX]

I havent flown out of the country in forever and getting a passport isnt something I want to do, and driving from Atlanta to Canada is about as ridiculous as asking me to swim across the pacific.

Easy dude, its just an interest check, lets not fly off the handle.

[Nemesis]

Easy dude, its just an interest check, lets not fly off the handle.

Na, im not mad or anything. Just when I saw Canada, I about fell out of my chair. I mean next thing...we'll have it at the North Pole because hot weather isnt an option! :rofl:

[Nemesis]

I've never complained about the driving time. That's not my motivation for having it up here. Just want to change things up a bit and make it more interesting. ;)

I believe it was in Virginia Beach in 03 and Pigeon Forge on 02, those were all pretty far south. :tongue:

Virginia Beach took us approx 13-15 hours from Atlanta....thats not really far south :(

Pigeon Forge was one year before my time, and that was 2002. Id say its our turn to be fair. :)

[MaverickFlyer]

Na, im not mad or anything. Just when I saw Canada, I about fell out of my chair. I mean next thing...we'll have it at the North Pole because hot weather isnt an option! :rofl:

Trust me, we are in the middle of a heat wave up here it's plenty hot right now. :flushed:

Virginia Beach took us approx 13-15 hours from Atlanta....thats not really far south :(

Pigeon Forge was one year before my time, and that was 2002. Id say its our turn to be fair. :)

Fair would be having it right in the middle of the majority of people, that's no where near Atlanta.

[CodersCougar]

CougarFest has been up to Ohio all the way down to Pigeon Forge.... Out of 10 years it hasn't corssed the boarder to canada. Us canadians just want to make our mark :D

[Excelcier]

I think one of 2 ideas would be great since it's getting to be a smaller and smaller crew each year of core Cougar folks.

1) Hamillfest is growing exponentially and it's about 2 hours into Canada and we're getting almost more Americans each year than CAnadians! It's quite popular, so perhaps a CF / Hamillfest merger in like August would rock.

2) CF coming back to the home of the Cougar in Michigan would be fun too.. I figure within a couple more years, it'll just end up in Brad's back yard anyways.

I do like Mark's idea... it's been mentioned a few times and seems welcomed by more people than I expected in verbal chats.

[ND4SPD]

George - as I was saying at Fest... going to the south in the middle of July is basically suicide :tongue:
Just thinking back - even with ALL the problems in V.Beach 2003, the thing I remember most is the unbearable heat. Even this past Saturday in Indy with the group photo.. it was nasty!

Now, have a Cougarbash in say, the middle of March, and I'm all for flying down early!




As for Canada - Jenny was saying Windsor would be excellent... and I would happen to agree. The nicest thing is that its RIGHT across the boarder from Detroit, so no one would have to really drive 'into' Canada. It would be fun, but i'm also anxious to hear what Lisa and friends come up with for Ohio...

[MaverickFlyer]

I don't care were in Ontario it is but I really think we need to get the track events back. Make it a real car event again. Sure it's fun to hang out and drink with your friends but that's not going to attract any new people.


Wow, that was my 20, 000th post!!! :banana::banana::banana:

[Nemesis]

Fair would be having it right in the middle of the majority of people, that's no where near Atlanta.

I never said have it in Atlanta. And like you said, fair is in the middle, but Canada isnt in the middle.... maybe the middle for you guys though....**shrug**

[LostRacer]

I'd attempt the suicide run..:flushed:

[wadespencer99]

The location of fest has never (and should never) be about giving a certain group of people a "break" from the driving...it should be about a car friendly city and hotel with a lot of attractions for everyone. Having it in located in the geographic middle of the majority of the members that come to fest just makes sense, but it shouldn't be written in stone.

Back on topic, I'd consider Canada...I thought we had to have a passport though to drive across the border :confused: If not...awesome. 100 bucks less I'd have to spend on it.

Keep in mind though, some people may not make it across the border. I have a couple friends that have tried only to find out that because of a DUI conviction less than 7 years ago, they weren't allowed to cross. Not sure if that is an actual law, or they just caught customs on a bad day. Not trying to scare anyone away, but just something to think about.

[MaverickFlyer]

The location of fest has never (and should never) be about giving a certain group of people a "break" from the driving...it should be about a car friendly city and hotel with a lot of attractions for everyone.

Back on topic, I'd consider Canada...I thought we had to have a passport though to drive across the border :confused: If not...awesome. 100 bucks less I'd have to spend on it.

Keep in mind though, some people may not make it across the border. I have a couple friends that have tried only to find out that because of a DUI conviction less than 7 years ago, they weren't allowed to cross. Not sure if that is an actual law, or they just caught customs on a bad day. Not trying to scare anyone away, but just something to think about.

I totally agree, it's not about making it a shorter or longer drive for anyone. I know Southern Ontario has a huge Car enthusiasts following, lots of race tracks, lots of hotels close to everything. Plus it's something completely different than the last ten years. Just think of the T-Shirt possibilities! :biggrin:

[LostRacer]

Keep in mind though, some people may not make it across the border. I have a couple friends that have tried only to find out that because of a DUI conviction less than 7 years ago, they weren't allowed to cross. Not sure if that is an actual law, or they just caught customs on a bad day. Not trying to scare anyone away, but just something to think about.

And that can be an issue as well :(

[Nemesis]

The location of fest has never (and should never) be about giving a certain group of people a "break" from the driving...it should be about a car friendly city and hotel with a lot of attractions for everyone. Having it in located in the geographic middle of the majority of the members that come to fest just makes sense, but it shouldn't be written in stone.

Indi had a decent hotel two years ago, but judging this year its gotten worse. And honestly half the people that go to Fest never compete in ANY form of motorsports.

Fest 05 had the Track because of the raffles that were pushed, however this year none of them were pushed and nobody was wanting to go on a cruise either when the time came.

[wadespencer99]

We probably shouldn't try to smuggle in the bansticks, eh?

:rofl:

[boarder4life]

i think its a great idea, we can even see about arranging some autocrossing if we can find a good lot to do it at.

[ND4SPD]

Fest 05 had the Track because of the raffles that were pushed, however this year none of them were pushed and nobody was wanting to go on a cruise either when the time came.
yeah, no matter where it is, raffles should be pushed hard this year................ starting NOW! :)

[wadespencer99]

Indi had a decent hotel two years ago, but judging this year its gotten worse. And honestly half the people that go to Fest never compete in ANY form of motorsports.

Fest 05 had the Track because of the raffles that were pushed, however this year none of them were pushed and nobody was wanting to go on a cruise either when the time came.


The hotel did seem a bit worse, but they put up with us a lot better than Boardman did in 07...I should have said car and car-owner friendly.

I'd love to see people be interested in the motorsport aspect of it, but keep in mind a lot of us are driving a long distance in a 9 year old car. I would hate to be 600 miles away from home and break something.

[LostRacer]

We probably shouldn't try to smuggle in the bansticks, eh?

:rofl:

YOU'D probably be ok...:rolleyes:

:rofl:

[CougarBum]

I think it would be nice to have it in Canada. After 10 years, we haven't held a single cougarfest and it's supposed to be a north american gathering. I'd take the whole week of for that. And depending on the location, I'd volunteer to organize local tours of attractions, whether its the track or seeing the beautiful canada.

+1 vote for canada.

[boarder4life]

the good thing is we do have alot to offer in the niagara region for auto and just tourists, water/amusement parks, duty free (on ur way in), race tracks, cruise down niagara, ALOT of hotels.....

[CougarBum]

Back on topic, I'd consider Canada...I thought we had to have a passport though to drive across the border :confused: If not...awesome. 100 bucks less I'd have to spend on it.

Keep in mind though, some people may not make it across the border. I have a couple friends that have tried only to find out that because of a DUI conviction less than 7 years ago, they weren't allowed to cross. Not sure if that is an actual law, or they just caught customs on a bad day. Not trying to scare anyone away, but just something to think about.

I believe by next year you may be required to have a passport to cross. However, a passport lasts for 5 years? So most likely, those who enjoy to travel will already have one, or at least will need one in the next 5 years.

As far as not being able to cross, I don't think it's an issue. I found the canadian border pretty easy. Coming into the states is more of a hassle than coming into canada. If you are worried, driving in a caravan of cougars is a good ticket in, if they let 5 cougars in for the same event, why not 6?

[wadespencer99]

My concern was that some friends were held back on separate occasions for offenses on their criminal records.

I don't have any, but I'm sure some of our members do :)

[MaverickFlyer]

I think it would be nice to have it in Canada. After 10 years, we haven't held a single cougarfest and it's supposed to be a north american gathering. I'd take the whole week of for that. And depending on the location, I'd volunteer to organize local tours of attractions, whether its the track or seeing the beautiful canada.

+1 vote for canada.

Same here, I know we could put on a really good event.

and Don't worry Wade if you break your car I'll fix it for you. ;)

[boarder4life]

the issue when crossing is when you have drug or abuse charges on your record. DUI's are under the same idea, so if you have possession, DUI, trafficking or a malicious charge on your record there are typically forms you can have filled out that will allow you to cross the boarder.

for us to cross it is on our record for life until we have it challenged and taken care of.

[wadespencer99]

Haha...engine swap at Cougarfest would make a great how-to!

[MaverickFlyer]

Haha...engine swap at Cougarfest would make a great how-to!

Hey, there are enough people around Southern Ontario and Motor cites that have done it that it wouldn't be hard to do. Heck I would even make that an event if people wanted it. We could put two teams together and see who does it the fastest. ;)

[boarder4life]

Haha...engine swap at Cougarfest would make a great how-to!

enough of them have been done, should only be a 2-3 hour job ;)

[wadespencer99]

Hey, there are enough people around Southern Ontario and Motor cites that have done it that it wouldn't be hard to do. Heck I would even make that an event if people wanted it. We could put two teams together and see who does it the fastest. ;)


I'm in! The last one I did I had the engine and trans on the garage floor in 2:29 working solo. Let's go!

Seriously though...I'd love to see more maintenance how-tos and things. We'd almost have to have a garage handy for that though.

[wadespencer99]

Ok...back on topic, from all of us.

This thread is for you to vote and discuss the interest of having fest in Canada. Place your vote, give your reason, and let it go.

Comments like "Let's have Cougarfest in Alaska" aren't necessary...just like "Let's have Cougarfest in Mexico" wouldn't be necessary if someone started a thread about having it in Atlanta :)

[Nemesis]

Mexico would be nice, I havent seen my family in a while.

[wadespencer99]

Why did I put Mexico :facepalm: :rofl:

[Nemesis]

lol

[MaverickFlyer]

I believe by next year you may be required to have a passport to cross. However, a passport lasts for 5 years? So most likely, those who enjoy to travel will already have one, or at least will need one in the next 5 years.

As far as not being able to cross, I don't think it's an issue. I found the canadian border pretty easy. Coming into the states is more of a hassle than coming into canada. If you are worried, driving in a caravan of cougars is a good ticket in, if they let 5 cougars in for the same event, why not 6?

You won't need a passport to drive into Canada next year. Just a Drivers license and proof of citizenship ie: birth certificate. All the more reason to do it here sooner than later.

I took this right from the web page I posted in my first post.

ENTRY/EXIT REQUIREMENTS: All Americans traveling by air outside the United States are required to present a passport or other valid travel document to enter or re-enter the United States . This requirement will be extended to sea travel (except closed loop cruises), including ferry service, by the summer of 2009. Until then, U.S. citizens traveling by sea must have government-issued photo identification and a document showing their U.S. citizenship (for example, a birth certificate or certificate of nationalization), or other WHTI compliant document such as a passport card for entry or re-entry to the U.S. Sea travelers should also check with their cruise line and countries of destination for any foreign entry requirements.

Applications for the new U.S. Passport Card are now being accepted. Based on current projections, we expect the passport card to be in full production beginning in July 2008. The card may not be used to travel by air and is available only to U.S. citizens. Further information on the U.S. Passport Card is available at U.S. Passport Card (http://travel.state.gov/passport/ppt_card/ppt_card_3926.html) and upcoming changes to U.S. passport policy can be found on the Bureau of Consular Affairs web site at Western Hemisphere Travel Initiative (http://travel.state.gov/travel/cbpmc/cbpmc_2223.html). We strongly encourage all American citizen travelers to apply for a U.S. passport well in advance of anticipated travel. American citizens can visit travel.state.gov or call 1-877-4USA-PPT (1-877-487-2778) for information on how to apply for their passports.


Both the U.S. and Canadian governments urge frequent travelers to join the NEXUS trusted traveler program. NEXUS members receive a special travel card that allows expedited border crossings for both private and commercial travelers through both U.S. and Canadian border controls very quickly. For information about the NEXUS program see Cross often? Make it simple, use NEXUS (http://cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/prog/nexus/menu-eng.html).

Entry into Canada is solely determined by Canadian Border Services Agency (CBSA) officials in accordance with Canadian law, see Welcome to the Canada Border Services Agency | Bienvenue à l'Agence des services frontaliers du Canada (http://www.cbsa.gc.ca) for details. Canadian law requires that all persons entering Canada must carry both proof of citizenship and identity. A valid U.S. passport or NEXUS card satisfies these requirements for U.S. citizens. If U.S. citizen travelers to Canada do not have a passport or approved alternate document such as a NEXUS card, they must show a government-issued photo ID (e.g. Driver’s License) and proof of U.S. citizenship such as a U.S. birth certificate, naturalization certificate, or expired U.S. passport. Children under sixteen need only present proof of U.S. citizenship.

U.S. citizens entering Canada from a third country must have a valid U.S. passport. A visa is not required for U.S. citizens to visit Canada for up to 180 days. Anyone seeking to enter Canada for any purpose besides a visit (e.g. to work, study or immigrate) must qualify for the appropriate entry status, and should contact the Canadian Embassy or nearest consulate and see the Canadian immigration web site at Welcome to Citizenship and Immigration Canada (http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/index.asp). Anyone with a criminal record (including even misdemeanors or Driving While Impaired (DWI)) charges may be barred from entering Canada and must qualify for a special waiver well in advance of any planned travel for further processing, which may take some time.

For further information on entry requirements, travelers may contact the Canadian Embassy at 501 Pennsylvania Avenue NW, Washington DC 20001, tel. (202) 682-1740, or the Canadian consulates in Atlanta, Boston, Buffalo, Chicago, Dallas, Detroit, Los Angeles, Miami, Minneapolis, New York, San Juan or Seattle. The Canadian Embassy’s web site is Embassy Washington / Ambassade du Canada à Washington (http://www.canadianembassy.org/).

Information about dual nationality or the prevention of international child abduction can be found on our web site. For further information about customs regulations, please read our Customs Information sheet.

[cougirllp]

Just wanted to make sure I read it correctly...

AIR TRAVEL



ALL PERSONS traveling by air outside of the United States are required to present a passport or other valid travel document to enter or re-enter the United States.
LAND AND SEA TRAVEL
The following summarizes information available on the Department of Homeland Security’s website.

CURRENTLY:
U.S. citizens need to present either (a) a passport, passport card (scheduled to be in full production beginning in July 2008), or WHTI-compliant document; or (b) a government-issued photo ID, such as a driver’s license, along with proof of citizenship, such as a birth certificate.
LATER:
On June 1, 2009, the U.S. government will implement the full requirements of the land and sea phase of WHTI. The proposed rules require most U.S. citizens entering the United States at sea or land ports of entry to have a passport, passport card, or WHTI-compliant document.
Note: The passport requirement does NOT apply to U.S. citizens traveling to or returning directly from a U.S. territory.

U.S. PASSPORT AND WHTI COMPLIANT DOCUMENTS:

U.S. Passport: U.S. citizens may present a valid U.S. passport when traveling via air, land or sea between the U.S. and the aforementioned Western Hemisphere countries.
The Passport Card: Passport card applications are currently being accepted in anticipation of land border travel document requirements. Based on current projections, we expect the passport card to be in full production beginning in July 2008. We will provide additional updates as available. Once in production, the passport card it will only be valid for land and sea travel between the U.S. and Canada, Mexico, the Caribbean region, and Bermuda.
WHTI-Compliant Travel Documents for U.S. citizen travel via land or sea, as of January 31, 2008:

Trusted Traveler Cards (NEXUS, SENTRI, or FAST)
State Issued Enhanced Driver’s License (when available)
Enhanced Tribal Cards (when available)
U.S. Military Identification with Military Travel Orders
U.S. Merchant Mariner Document when traveling in conjunction with official maritime business
Native American Tribal Photo Identification Card
Form I-872 American Indian Card


To me, it looks like you will need a passport for land travel effective June 2009. If that's the case, I would be a bit more hesitant for fest being in Canada. That's $100 just to cross the border. Per that same website, US passports last 10 years.

Passport website for US (http://travel.state.gov/passport/passport_1738.html)

[frenchblueC2]

I think it's a cool idea, but I can definitely see the border crossing thing being an issue for some people.
:(

[ND4SPD]

To me, it looks like you will need a passport for land travel effective June 2009. If that's the case, I would be a bit more hesitant for fest being in Canada. That's $100 just to cross the border. Per that same website, US passports last 10 years.


I'll send you money for it then! :tongue: Then you would have to come visit more often to get your (or my) moneys worth! :cool:

either way - $100 for 10 years is a pretty good deal! That would take you right up to Hamillfest 2018! :eek: :rofl:

[cougirllp]

:rofl: And what if I don't like Canada? Then I paid $100 for one time! :poke:

[ND4SPD]

omg... lies!! :poke: :poke:

if anything, you won't want to leave! :biggrin:

[sonza68]

:rofl: And what if I don't like Canada? Then I paid $100 for one time! :poke:

There are other countries besides Canada.

[cougirllp]

There are other countries besides Canada.

Number 1..I don't really want to visit other countries.

Number 2, if I can barely afford $100 for a passport, what makes you think I can afford a trip to another country?! :poke:

[LostRacer]

There are other countries besides Canada.

Liar! :disgust:

[sonza68]

It's true, I've seen some of them. The people even talk funny, like in Canada, but different.

[XplosivePlushToy]

Passport requirements or not, there's no way in hell I'd go to a CF that far north. The drive to Indy alone almost put me out of commission, and having experienced a straight shot to Canada before, it is not an experience I'd like to repeat.

CF was a bit of a let-down to me this year and I'm already hesistant about going to another. Location will be the primary factor next time.

[wadespencer99]

Ya know....ya don't have to do the drive in one shot :)

[LostRacer]

The Hell He Doesn't!

[Topik]

If its in montreal im a given YES.

[jaged]

this needs to stay on topic or its going to get locked.

it wouldnt bother me going up there, but i all ready have my passport and ive been up there a lot for car meets anyway

[Phantom]

Hell Yeah I'd go to Canada! But then again, I'd go to Fest no matter where in North America it was held.

[COOGAH]

for me, i'll go anywhere. i can fly there and then rent a car. i already have my passport so thats not an issue. but, for selfish reasons, i'd like to not ahve to deal with the border if i am gonna be towing a cougar. and i'd like it to be as close as possible to me.
Indy is already too far for me, but thats just me.

but i'd like people to ask themselves what an event such as cougarfest means to them and what it should have. because for a 3 day event, its hard to please everyone. like if you want how-to's and whatnot, you have to remember that the people putting it on are volunteering time out of their "vacation" to do it. if you want an auto-involved event such as drag, etc, a lot more money is going to be needed. so you need to support any and all raffles, because i am sure no one wants to spend something like $250 on registration.

but to get back on topic, yes i'd consider canadia, home of the maple, hockey, mckenzie brothers, and home motherland of teh sonza

[JayZee]

i'm down for sweet sweet canada! :biggrin::beer:

[HugNSmile1]

Where CougarFest goes.. I go! :)

[azbobbybooshay10]

Why not? At least this time, when I cancel, I can always...
http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h86/Blazer1988/BlameCanada.jpg

[wadespencer99]

At least you are facing reality...:rofl:

[XplosivePlushToy]

Hey now...bobby made it this year...

EDIT: And yes, I do have to make it in one straight shot. I dont believe in stopping for anything but smokes or truck stop hookers. :ty:

Err...I mean Arby's.

[marinofan]

Isn't the legal age of consent in canda like 14? Why isn't George all for Canada, theres also legal prostitution. Who needs autocross when you can get bambi and sierra for the night? LOL


I don't care where its at.. I'm not drinking next year, I will be there though.

[Lunar Limelight]

I don't care where its at.. I'm not drinking next year, I will be there though.

Thats what they all say.

Poor George. I know you don't like 14yr olds. Kitty didn't look 14.

[COOGAH]

wait, theres legal prostitution?!?!?!?!?

when is cougarfest?!?!?!?

[XplosivePlushToy]

Paying for sex is so much easier than working for it.

Hookers = Love

[xcortneyx]

lol true that hehe

[Nemesis]

Poor George. I know you don't like 14yr olds. Kitty didn't look 14.

I thought it all would have been over after Fest!!!! :(

[bdiddy]

hell to the no. not making that drive

[Topik]

Hey now...bobby made it this year...

.


Cougarfest Archive (http://www.cougarfest.com/photos/albums/105/10490.aspx)

yes he did.

[Mels-cat]

YAY!!!! CANADA!!!! It's nice to have a change!!!

[Frosty]

I haven't been to Canada in awhile. Can you still get milk in a bag?

[ND4SPD]

:rofl: yes... yes you can.

[bdiddy]

milk in a bag?

[Topik]

milk in a bag? Thats poppycock

[Frosty]

milk in a bag?

Yes...milk...IN A BAG! :drool:

[bubby]

Fun bags or???

[CougarBum]

Milk in a bag

http://cache.virtualtourist.com/879736-Milk_in_bags_instead_of_bottles-Province_of_Ontario.jpg

[ND4SPD]

:rofl:

I guess there will have to be a tour of a Canadian grocery store if CF is up here.

[sonza68]

Why would you want milk in a bag? A jug/carton/bottle seems much more appropriate.

[Pyro81]

Is that, like, the Canadian version of a breast implant?

[boarder4life]

Why would you want milk in a bag? A jug/carton/bottle seems much more appropriate.

its concept that we have yet to grasp, i think the only benefit is the lower production, less material and easier to develop

[ND4SPD]

Why would you want milk in a bag? A jug/carton/bottle seems much more appropriate.
we have all of those too. :) bags require less effort to produce I guess.

[Lunar Limelight]

http://imagechan.com/images/2754e399b9e5134a77f8d0a031e30243.jpg

[Aries]

... how do you drink out of it?

Edit:oohh.. I see now..

[jaged]

one thing that will be a rough on some people is the hours of the LCBO or the Beer Stores, eventhough i for one would like to see a lot less drinking at fest

[Mike]

one thing that will be a rough on some people is the hours of the LCBO or the Beer Stores, eventhough i for one would like to see a lot less drinking at fest

Most LCBOs are open until 11pm. I know it's not exactly late, but it would be late enough. You just need to be prepared. ;)

[ND4SPD]

and none of the LCBO's are ghetto or let you walk in with your pants around your kness... unlike what Mike and I observed when he went to pick up beer on the way home from dinner. :cover:

[CougarBum]

LCBO = Liquor Control Board of Ontario... in case some of you were wondering. It;s a liquor store.