Turbo Install in Progress

[S3c70r]

So finally I got my turbo kit. Its currently being installed by a professional

Here's some pics first and then a little description of everything.

Cell phone pics .. I should have rotate some but .. was too lazy .. sorry.

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Description

Master Power Turbo .63AR
Turbo Blanket
Bigger Intercooler
Turbo XS RFL BOV
38mm WasteGate with 8PSI spring
Lightning 90mm MAF
42lb injectors
SVT Fuel Pump
Quaife Differential
All Hot and Cold pipes are being ceramic coated
Boost Gauge of course ..
AEM Air/Fuel Windeband Gauge..
Battery relocation kit


Car already have...

3.0L Full Oval Port
SVT Cams
Weapon-R headers
DMD
Clevite Rod/Main Bearings
Lightned Pulleys
SPEC Flywheel
SPEC Stage 3 Clutch

And of course .. XCal tuning.


Ill try to get some install pics and some videos when done.

Hopefully that can break 300whp with 8PSI... :bowdown:

[erfnick1]

how much are they charging you to install the turbo kit??:confused:

[Frosty]

Sounds like a good setup, but your pic links are down :banghead:

[fordrule]

pics no worky

[S3c70r]

how much are they charging you to install the turbo kit??:confused:

Not that much. You wouldnt beleive it :)



Sorry for the pics .. should be fine now.

[Blackcoog]

What size is that intercooler? 26" x 3.5"? Is that going to flow enough for a 3L turboed car?

[S3c70r]

What size is that intercooler? 26" x 3.5"? Is that going to flow enough for a 3L turboed car?

27x6x3.5 Good up to 350whp as per Joey.

[fordrule]

is that the NPG stage 2 kit?

[S3c70r]

is that the NPG stage 2 kit?

Yes, well the one that comes with some upgraded pieces such as I/C etc...

I guess Stage 1 would be the kit w/o intercooler - 210/240whp

Stage 2 would be the Standard Kit w/intercooler - 275/300/whp

And Stage 3 would be the one with upgraded pieces - 300/350whp

In my case its the third one.

[brapple]

And Stage 3 would be the one with upgraded pieces - 300/350whp

In my case its the third one.

thats is what I have, your going to like it alot :rofl: :biggrin:

although I upgraded the turbo also

[S3c70r]

thats is what I have, your going to like it alot :rofl: :biggrin:

although I upgraded the turbo also

hehe thats nice .. any numbers ? any races ? just to have an estimate of power..

[fordrule]

it looks bad ass wish i could afford one...

[baggedCSVT]

it looks bad ass wish i could afford one...



is badass, turbo makes these cars seriously fun. to the point that once you go turbo you never want to go back:cool:

[brapple]

hehe thats nice .. any numbers ? any races ? just to have an estimate of power..


not yet, still working some detail and the tune out ...

[BurritaSVT]

What size is that intercooler? 26" x 3.5"? Is that going to flow enough for a 3L turboed car?

The intercooler flows 13 psi which is about 350whp+ flowing over 50lbs/min into the motor measured at the UIM so the intercooler will support over 350whp the intercooler can flow over 15 psi ask my last motor that snapped the rod. Now if you went with a built motor and plan on making more than 13 psi then I would say you will need my top to bottom feed intercooler. Big intercooler that are to big for the applications are just waste of money and add more lag time an spool time. And ask Brapple his IAT sensor were under 100 degrees at 7psi plus I never saw over 105 degrees over 10 psi yet on the stock 3 liter turbo cars. BADsvt put down 310whp with 7.25 psi and running 10.5 A/F when he was untuned so 10 psi will be 350whp with hardly ay effort on the stock 3 liters. Joey

[gamiller]

The intercooler flows 13 psi which is about 350whp+ flowing over 50lbs/min into the motor measured at the UIM so the intercooler will support over 350whp the intercooler can flow over 15 psi ask my last motor that snapped the rod. Now if you went with a built motor and plan on making more than 13 psi then I would say you will need my top to bottom feed intercooler.

Hmmmmmm. I need to measure my intercooler then to see if it can handle things once I upgrade to the Walbro fuel pump. Shame to let my built motor get bored with 8 psi.

Joey, I overhauled my cooling system today. Once I overhaul the suspension this weekend, it's tuning time again. Getting things done on the daily driver goes much faster when one is unemployed. :goofy:

[brapple]

And ask Brapple his IAT sensor were under 100 degrees at 7psi

I didn't look that closely at the IAT numbers but from what I recall they where pretty good. using an infered thermometer I haven't seen the intercooler get much over 90 degrees after running the car. Only time I saw 120 degrees was after driving and parking the car for 15 minutes or so then taking off again.

[S3c70r]

Do you guys have any boost controller ?

Was looking at them and those electronic boost controllers are so pricey..just too much for what I will have. I dont need that many features..

Any in-car/switch manual boost controller available somewhere ?

[erfnick1]

where have you looked for boost controller?? Cause I just picked up on from ebay for 300:biggrin:. Its a apexi avc-r never hooked one up though:facepalm:

[brapple]

Do you guys have any boost controller ?

Was looking at them and those electronic boost controllers are so pricey..just too much for what I will have. I dont need that many features..

Any in-car/switch manual boost controller available somewhere ?


yeah I have a hallman evolution rx mbc with the in car control. still need to set that up. otherwise you can find instructions on how to make your own mbc and then you can buy a 2 stage boost controller that is set with a switch inside the car.

[bdiddy]

hell yeah man, can't wait to see this thing finished

[gamiller]

Do you guys have any boost controller ?

Was looking at them and those electronic boost controllers are so pricey..just too much for what I will have. I dont need that many features..

Any in-car/switch manual boost controller available somewhere ?

Manual boost controllers (http://www.boostcontroller.com/index.php?category=35)

[canadiancougar]

Are you going to keep the stock exhaust with the turbo installed?

[Topik]

MBC is a bad idea. Do it once do it right, even if its a little bit of a burn on the pocket :)

[S3c70r]

Are you going to keep the stock exhaust with the turbo installed?

Shopping one since a couple of weeks. Cant decide which one I take.

But once the car will be running then a 3" will be installed for sure.


Topik : Which one do you have ? any you recommand ?

[S3c70r]

Im about to buy the Greddy Profec B spec II EBC.

My question is.. No danger to raise boost on a stock 3.0L engine ?

Read that 10psi should be safe but I dont want something bad to happen..

What do you think ?

[MaverickFlyer]

I hope to do this next year.

[Topik]

Im about to buy the Greddy Profec B spec II EBC.

My question is.. No danger to raise boost on a stock 3.0L engine ?

Read that 10psi should be safe but I dont want something bad to happen..

What do you think ?

That EBC is ****ing MONEY! You will not be disappointed. I dont see any major issues with solid 10psi HOWEVER make sure its tuned or you will be looking at some major issues.

[gamiller]

Read that 10psi should be safe but I dont want something bad to happen..

What do you think ?

Test in discrete increments. Start with something you know is safe and log it. If the log looks good (i.e. A/F not too lean, MAF not pegged, injectors not maxed) then bump it up a couple psi and log your run. If at any time you hear pinging/knocking, take your foot off the gas and then trim back the boost. Otherwise, repeat the procedure until the log indicates you are close to maxing out injectors, MAF, etc.

[S3c70r]

That EBC is ****ing MONEY! You will not be disappointed. I dont see any major issues with solid 10psi HOWEVER make sure its tuned or you will be looking at some major issues.

its not that bad .. its 300$. I think its the best value/quality.

Test in discrete increments. Start with something you know is safe and log it. If the log looks good (i.e. A/F not too lean, MAF not pegged, injectors not maxed) then bump it up a couple psi and log your run. If at any time you hear pinging/knocking, take your foot off the gas and then trim back the boost. Otherwise, repeat the procedure until the log indicates you are close to maxing out injectors, MAF, etc.

Thanks Gary, your advices are always welcome!

[FastCougar]

Or just run the piss out of it until something blows ;)

[gamiller]

Or just run the piss out of it until something blows ;)

I'm glad that didn't happen when you "accidentally" bumped boost to 23 psi! :crazy:

BTW, we need to go head to head before the new owner takes possession of the Mavro Gato.

[Topik]

its not that bad .. its 300$. I think its the best value/quality.



Thanks Gary, your advices are always welcome!

I meant ****ing money as in its amazingly badass :)

[Topik]

I'm glad that didn't happen when you "accidentally" bumped boost to 23 psi! :crazy:

BTW, we need to go head to head before the new owner takes possession of the Mavro Gato.

Gary no offense but you will lose.

[gamiller]

Gary no offense but you will lose.

obviously my current 8 psi setup is no match against his 14 psi setup. but when we *do* go head-to-head, i hope to have a more competitive setup. ;)

[AndyMan]

go ahead and throw me in the hat too.... :thumsbup:

[FastCougar]

Gary no offense but you will lose.The majority of the what you experienced was on 5 cylinders :eek:

Remember my comment "wierd, it's not breaking traction like it normally does"? ;)

obviously my current 8 psi setup is no match against his 14 psi setup. but when we *do* go head-to-head, i hope to have a more competitive setup. ;)Car is currently set up for 16 psi ... to run "conservative" boost, I must turn off my controller and I still muster 12 psi ;)

[gamiller]

Car is currently set up for 16 psi ... to run "conservative" boost, I must turn off my controller and I still muster 12 psi ;)

So what is your wastegate spring rated to be? Dan and I were talking about doing a four-way shootout with our four cars representing the ADC Kit, BlackCoog Kit, FastCougar "Kit" and Nautilus Kit. But for that to work, we should all run about the same boost. But then again, Kevin's car is already under the knife, so it might be too late for that.

[FastCougar]

Since when is it too late to "turn up the boost"? Like you pointed out, it's a point of your base spring in the wastegate as that will determine your PSI range. I have the 12 psi spring, so the least amount of boost my car will ever see around 11 - 11.5 psi due to cracking point of the spring being about .5 psi lower than the spring rating.

[S3c70r]

Would a 3 inch exhaust be useless if downpipe/cat are 2.5 ?

[gamiller]

Would a 3 inch exhaust be useless if downpipe/cat are 2.5 ?

:shrug: You might consider posting that outside of your build thread.

[BurritaSVT]

The car we dynoed this week had a 3" exhaust made great power also I made over 400whp with the same setup. I will tell you this I am starting to lean a little towards the fact the catback is making some big difference because Badsvt only made 309whp at 8.5 psi but he was running rich but I am not sure it makes that it makes 50whp difference in the A/F but surely a big 3" catback can surely make some difference though. I would do nothing less then 3" catback on a turbo car for big power.

[gamiller]

The car we dynoed this week had a 3" exhaust made great power also I made over 400whp with the same setup... I would do nothing less then 3" catback on a turbo car for big power.

Any "restrictive" exhaust, could be detached for the dyno. Would you recommend that somebody with a 2.5" exhaust remove it for dyno tuning?

[jaged]

i would think that that would mess up the tune for driveability. you dont drive with it off so it would be off a bit. pull it off for power only pulls sure, but not for a tune.


this is just my thoughts, i have no actual information to prove this

[KUGAKRAZY]

Every time this thread pops up, I discharge more probable babies from my body....

::skeet::

I want mo power.

[S3c70r]

Got some picture of the progress. Car should be running very soon by now. I should have more pictures soon.

Hot and Cold pipes have been Jet-Hot Coated. Very nice isnt it ?

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[gamiller]

hotness! :cool:

[BurritaSVT]

OMG that is beyond beautiful out of curiousity I was thinking of doing the same thing how much did that cost? I may not have time to jet coat all the pipes polished due to the size of the y-pipe because the place I am going to can't tumble the y-pipe to large. Very very impressed am I so jealous. Joey

[brapple]

I wonder how the jet hot will hold up. after a few month it doesn't look so great on my headers.

[Topik]

As hot as those are I will take my thermal tech coated pipes over those anyday.

[wanderingmind]

OMG I want a turbo soooooooo bad!!!

Your pipes are soooo hawt!!! :drool:

[fordrule]

hawtness :drool: