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DROPdatSCORT
12-25-2007, 04:33 PM
well ive been reserching...ALOT
ive been reading............ALOT
and ive got a good idea for people who want to go turbo...just a little cheaper idea

what it would be is

all the hotside to the turbo with modified stock manifolds w/gutted precats and blocked off EGR.

hotside would include custom 1 peice unit to route the piping to the front of the motor up to the turbo inlet flange
the only manifold i would need is the front for the modification, and there will be a 150 $core charge until i recieve back your front one.

the rout im going will be so there are NO pipes under the oil pan other than where the factory Y pipe goes to the front, and the down pipe would still route under the transmission.

Now also there will be a full cold side, including FMIC intercooler and couplers, and all aluminum pipe, and BOV flange of your choice.

that way it keeps costs down.
you get to chose what turbo
a tial 38mm WG flange will be on the hotside unless specified for large tial 44mm v-band(extra like 15 bucks)


for the pipe kit will be about 1400 $ shipped to your door, with about a 2 week turn around for the first few kits.

now this is just a feeler to see the intrest i get on it, i will have to obtain a engine and trans to test fit on, unless someone close to me can have the car laid up for a little while, so i can work my magic.

who ever would let me use their car would also get a dicount on pricing.

let me know what you all think.

i was orginally going to make the turbo manifolds BUT it was going to be WAY TO PRICY

pgtatx
12-25-2007, 09:28 PM
A quick personal recommendation... the Tial 44mm WG with the Vband flange is a much better option. The 2 bolt flange for the 38mm will leak... I can guarantee it. Any flexing on the piping, any engine movement, etc., and it'll get loud and annoying.

The 44mm is a better option... besides that... I didn';t read the rest of your post... sorry... I'm lazy

-CRAZY-
12-26-2007, 03:18 AM
that sounds like a sweet deal to me... =( i am short of 1400$ for now...

DROPdatSCORT
12-26-2007, 04:51 AM
i might be able to even produce a kit now, ive got a pm or two about someone twiddleing the idea in their head hehe.

FastCougar
12-26-2007, 12:48 PM
No offense, but you have a long way to come. You can test fit all day long in the garage on an engine/trans outside the engine bay and it wont' make a bit of difference. Due to the extremely tight confines of our engine bays, this is a system that requires mockup IN the engine bay. Rough routing can be done outside the bay, but you MUST place the turbo and do preliminary down-pipe mockup with the driveline in the car.

Develop the "kit" first, then ask people ... prove the concept on your own car and with your own dime, then come back and ask.

DROPdatSCORT
12-26-2007, 05:09 PM
No offense, but you have a long way to come. You can test fit all day long in the garage on an engine/trans outside the engine bay and it wont' make a bit of difference. Due to the extremely tight confines of our engine bays, this is a system that requires mockup IN the engine bay. Rough routing can be done outside the bay, but you MUST place the turbo and do preliminary down-pipe mockup with the driveline in the car.

Develop the "kit" first, then ask people ... prove the concept on your own car and with your own dime, then come back and ask.


why do you think i posted about turbo size and said flat out that im turboing my csvt,just because i havent been around the community a lot doesnt mean squat, dont take me to be a fool. not to mention some has offered me to use the a car as well for mock up and to build him a kit, after i complete my svt. I know how the engine bays are, im in the middle of doing tranny work to the SVT.only reason for on an engine stand is to perfect what ive done in car already. trust me i know how to fabricate in tight areas.

in a friends zx2 before i started the down pipe, not to mention the radiator, a/c condersor and cooling fans inplace, looks open till you add all the rest, not to mention the very very limited space between the a/c pump and down pipe(not pictured) oh and the welding quality i have as well are pictured here too, im currently looking for the images.

fabrication is is nothing to me, you think the csvt/cougar engine bay is cramped,? ever take a look at a stealth RT/TT/ 3kgt VR4 engine bay. go make some turbo turbo kit to run twin50 trims or a single gt40 or larger turbo and get back to me.


oh and not to mention my kits will be 100% tig welded for best appearances and strength.

JohnS'01
12-26-2007, 05:20 PM
is this for the Zetec motor?

DROPdatSCORT
12-26-2007, 07:51 PM
v-6

i dont have any cars i could use to make an i-4 kit on.

sheldon729
12-26-2007, 08:05 PM
I would lend u my car but i got the motor out and trans out and just finished rebuilind my motor completely and and currently on my trans not to mention i live in CANADA haha...$1400 wow that great would it be any cheaper to make the kit with out an intercooler included cause i got a 31"x12"x3" intercooler already bracketed and fitted to my drift kit:)

Defanitly only go with the tail 44mm v band waiste gate! Nextly are you planning on modifing the front header cause i got msds short headers and i dont want to have to or have them modded at all they were hard to get and pricy:tongue: but if you can get a nice finished product and pictures of it and the welds and fitment and all id take one off ur hands:biggrin:

When you say hotside that includes the downpipe with Waiste fitting obviously but have it go right back to where it can bolt up to the stock exhaust location right?

And as for the turbo im personaly thinging of buying is a
T3/T4 50 trim/ .63 exhaust

DROPdatSCORT
12-26-2007, 08:19 PM
yup it would be a complete piping kit from the exhaust mani's to turbo and from turbo down to the connect to an exhaust.

i doubt that i ill be able to mate it with a trubendz kit or stock exhaust, so a custom peice will be needed to connect the exhaust to the down pipe, although i may be able to figure something out once i get to how i want to do my down pipe

sheldon729
12-26-2007, 08:29 PM
You going to got 2.5" down? also when do you plan on starting this project? i want a turbo im my car come spring wheather its ur kit if its worthy;) or a nautilus kit

What size of cold pipes 2.5 as well? and are you going to include the intake side of the turbo the filter n all? Are you going to fab up brackets to the pipes in certian locations cause there is many places that need it..Cause im seriously interested in this if i can spend the $1400 or less if you will go without the intercooler cause like i said i got one and i would just buy my self a turbo and BOV and 44mm WG...I am good friends with a guy out of edmonton that owns AFIperformance so he would dyno n tune my car :)

DROPdatSCORT
12-26-2007, 08:51 PM
3'' down pipe
2.5 turbo to IC, i think im going to do 3'' IC to TB not sure yet.

well the only problem is i dont know if it will fit with your FMIC... because i dont plan to run much larger than 6-8'' tall

sheldon729
12-26-2007, 09:31 PM
...Is there gonna be enough exhaust pressure for the 3" down? considering this isnt going to be wildly boosted what 8-13psi? 2.5" is more than enough. just putting some past discusted points in

Hight wouldnt matter but what kind of lenght r u looking at? To make things easier i would just buy the kit with the FMIC that you offer and mod it where i have to, to make it work with my FMIC no biggi

And do 3" from filter to turbo inlet :)

JohnS'01
12-26-2007, 09:58 PM
would there be much of a cost diff for the Zetec?

Because I have one and i live in Ohio

BigBalledOX
12-26-2007, 10:03 PM
would there be much of a cost diff for the Zetec?

Because I have one and i live in Ohio

Considering it would be a completely different setup with practically no parts in common, yeah, I'm pretty sure there would be.

FastCougar
12-26-2007, 11:11 PM
why do you think i posted about turbo size and said flat out that im turboing my csvt,just because i havent been around the community a lot doesnt mean squat, dont take me to be a fool. not to mention some has offered me to use the a car as well for mock up and to build him a kit, after i complete my svt. I know how the engine bays are, im in the middle of doing tranny work to the SVT.only reason for on an engine stand is to perfect what ive done in car already. trust me i know how to fabricate in tight areas.

in a friends zx2 before i started the down pipe, not to mention the radiator, a/c condersor and cooling fans inplace, looks open till you add all the rest, not to mention the very very limited space between the a/c pump and down pipe(not pictured) oh and the welding quality i have as well are pictured here too, im currently looking for the images.

fabrication is is nothing to me, you think the csvt/cougar engine bay is cramped,? ever take a look at a stealth RT/TT/ 3kgt VR4 engine bay. go make some turbo turbo kit to run twin50 trims or a single gt40 or larger turbo and get back to me.


oh and not to mention my kits will be 100% tig welded for best appearances and strength.wow ... didn't mean to step on your e-dick ... sorry!

sheldon729
12-26-2007, 11:30 PM
TiAL 44 v-band :) This is the WG you should make the kit fit:biggrin: None of that gasket bolt up **** that will leak
31822

DROPdatSCORT
12-26-2007, 11:36 PM
wow ... didn't mean to step on your e-dick ... sorry!

its fine, just dont come across like i dont know what im doing...;)

what erk'd me was your statement of i have a long way to come, when not knowing much about what ive done ect..

sheldon729
12-27-2007, 01:27 AM
So are you going to do this cause i would buy a hot/cold pipe set-up...Next question is the finishes of the piping would the cold be polished and the hot coater or what?

DROPdatSCORT
12-27-2007, 01:45 AM
it will come bare, all the hot side stuff will be stainless.
the charge pipes(cold pipes) will be semi-polished, but i dont have the equipment to polish them, the will lose their shine when around the weld.

im working on this currently to turbo my contour, so as soon as im done and i like how it fits.

give me a month or so....also time depends on how my buddy wants to do this when he gets money so i can also use his cougar as well.

sheldon729
12-27-2007, 02:00 AM
You couldnt get the pipes powder coated well at least the hot pipes?...because of rust purposes, come spring time there is alot of salt on the road from winter where i live. or i imagine i could get them done here.

DROPdatSCORT
12-27-2007, 02:06 AM
stainless steel (type 304/304l doesnt rust, its food grade stainless)
powerder coat wont last on the hot pipes, it will burn off, and jet hot coatings (ceramic coatings) will cost a good bit $$ to have done

sheldon729
12-27-2007, 09:07 AM
oh ok well we'll just have to see what it looks like when done :p

sheldon729
01-10-2008, 10:11 PM
Havent heard of any updates???

sheldon729
03-17-2008, 10:48 PM
Any updates on this or what...

fordrule
03-18-2008, 12:42 AM
i thought he was building his stealth....not sure

nadthomas
03-18-2008, 01:11 AM
Yeah, he built his stealth and then it blew up. I don't recall the details at this point. I believe when Greg left this off he was out of a job for a little while so money was tight, and then he I think he got a few to many cars. I think he has 4 right now.

DROPdatSCORT
04-04-2008, 03:32 AM
yeah ive been HELLA busy with the new job 145 + hour pay periods (2 weeks)
and working 2nd shift ive had no time to do anything but eat sleep and work, and as Dan mentioned, money has been really really tight for me lately :(

i still plan on doing this do dont get too worried.

as for the zetec, yea i can do it but i would need a zetec coug/contour to work off of since the closest thing ive had to work with was a zx2 when i had mine

Currently im trying to sell my zx2 shell.
as of right now i have
SVT contour
RT/TT stealth
and a gutted zx2 race car l


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