Just So You Know About Turbos For Your Car!!!

[Thunder Katz]

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[CincyZetec]

well they are different... so u're wrong. zetec is the name given to the ford 2.0L 4 cylinder engine. just like the v-6 engines are duratecs. all duratecs and zetecs have some differences from car to car, and engine to engine so just cuz 2 cars have a zetec doesnt make them identical. the focus zetec doesn't have the vct that the cougar, zx2 and contour engines have. also i think there are some minute differences in bolt patterns, geometry of some parts, and other small things like that. so really a lot of the parts for a focus don't work on a cougar without modifications. if u want to do the least amount of modifications look at zx2 parts from zxtuner.com and as for the turbo "kit" there is no off the shelf turbo kit for a cougar. there are many for a focus, but u'll end up spending more money on all new piping since the focus piping won't bolt right up to a cougar. really do some research on these things before jumping on somone and thelling them so "F**** off" as u said. and yeah the stock zetec block and bottom end is rated to 300hp (i believe) but it's not recommend. if u're going to be running more than like 6-8psi (i believe) on a stock block u definately want to upgrade the internals. it's a hell of a lot cheaper to buy the parts and replace them, then hope and pray that the engine will withstand high boost and having it blow up on you. do some research here before jumping on people. theres many people here who have turboed a zetec and know what the car needs and how much it will cost. $2k is really pretty cheap considering that 90% of the parts will have to be custom made and fabbed up.

[Turbo Zetec 'tour]

i call BS on the 20lbs of boost for 100,000 miles. did you actually look at the odometer and to see what it was at? like cougarpimp said there are differences between the 98+ contour/cougar and the focus zetec. the most obvious ones are the oil pan and lack of VCT. the pass through for the exhaust on our cars is on the passenger side of the pan. the focus' pass through is down the middle (right next to the trans). IIRC they dont have a front roll resistor either so it wont get in the way of the intake going to the turbo (mine just barely clears). there is no point in spending the money on a focus turbo kit for the contour/cougar cause the intercooler, plumbing, and downpipe WILL NOT fit.

Next time do some research on here and on contour.org before you go running your mouth.

ps. i doubt he was running 20lbs of boost as well.

[bdiddy]

:rofl: at 20lbs of boost on a completely stock engine.


also :rofl: at being sponsored by steeda

[Hardrive]

Wow 20lbs of boost! B uahahahahahahah!:rofl: That's nothing. My:cool: coug runs 1.21 jigawatts and where it goes we don't need roads.

[cbman]

Your posts precede you!!!

http://www.newcougar.org/forums/tuning-calibration/118414-i-purchaced-mod-chip-need-help.html
http://www.newcougar.org/forums/2-0l-zetec-performance/118467-true.html
http://www.newcougar.org/forums/2-0l-zetec-performance/118551-desperatly-need-help.html

Maybe you shouldn't tell people to "F*** off" when they are trying to help you. BTW, You are going to be spending at least $2200 more to get your car turbo'ed and running.

[B3NN3TT]

... before last night i thought i was going to be spending over $2000.00 doing conversions to my engine and to everyone that told me that :evil: F*** Off:gtfo:!

Yeah... you're going to make lots and lots of friends here, and I'm sure they will be ever so happy to help you when your poor car NEVER RUNS RIGHT because you have no idea what you're doing... :rolleyes:

Get on with your bad self, Mister Goodwrench.

[cbman]

Eventhough it seems like your a dick, I will do a breakdown for you.

$1000 - Turbo piping fabrication (very conservative estimate)
$200 - Wastegate
$150 - B.O.V.
$250 - Turbo Exhaust manifold
$400 - Chip/Flasher
$200 - Tune for your chip or flasher (very conservative estimate)
There are a lot of other misc. parts too like spark plugs, flanges, gaskets, coupling hoses.

[bdiddy]

:rofl: this kid cracks me up

[AndrewM6097]

his friend is a performance auto tuner... he'll be all set. :rofl:

[2002XR]

Yeah and don't forget things like a bigger exhaust, prob a new clutch to handle the added power....think you need to re-vise your list.

[bdiddy]

and a turbonator. they are called that bc you have to have one when you get a turbo

[2002XR]

and a turbonator. they are called that bc you have to have one when you get a turbo

Damn.....he's right, I forgot about that

[kpeeks]

What the hell......:disgust:
I don't know if the knowledge(lack there of) & attitude are a requirement for Team Adrenaline. I have a group of guys in my town by that name & they're rude & don't know jack. No offense ment but its just strange.....

Don't believe what everyone tells you about their car, unless they can back it up. Also don't throw this attitude around on these forums, all these people here have helped me out since I've joined.

[bdiddy]

oh... and I love how he has a turbo listed as his mod, but it's not even installed. :rofl:

[bubby]

Great info! Someone should sticky this!

[hotguyincougar]

Maybe somebody should tell him how to spell Eclips(e). And find out where he actually pulled the turbo from. An Evo III or an Eclipse. Also the 1st and 2nd Gen Eclipse turbo are different. But what do I know about Mitsu turbos since I own an Evo??

[bdiddy]

nah man, he's got that hybrid Evo, Eclipse, 3000GT, STi turbo :rofl:

[bubby]

[quote=Thunder Katz;1382128]he told me he had run 20 lbs of boost on the same 2.0L i4 stock zetec for 100,000 miles all he need to do where some small very cheap mods with the MAF and the ECU and timing &&& he is sponcored by Steeda i for one trust this guy because i saw it with my own eyes ... [quote]

So he TOLD you something and that makes you trust him just because you saw a turbo in his car? :rofl:

I SEEN IT!

[hotguyincougar]

Well I'm runnin 35psi on my STOCK turbo and pushin like 600hp to the wheels. It's mad yo!!! Oh, and I have like 500,000 miles on it too!! With no issues at all and never changed the oil. I love that synthetic stuff. Oh, and "thunder katz", it's 16g dumb****!!

[bdiddy]

my stock tiburon has like, 250hp, I swear :rofl:

[kpeeks]

my stock tiburon has like, 250hp, I swear :rofl:

Well technically speaking I think the euro Tibbys comes with the Neon SRT4 motor. I remember reading an article about dodge continuing the srt motor into the 08 tibby. SOOO, it is a possible factual statement.:rofl:

[99mcougar]

Well I'm runnin 35psi on my STOCK turbo and pushin like 600hp to the wheels. It's mad yo!!! Oh, and I have like 500,000 miles on it too!! With no issues at all and never changed the oil. I love that synthetic stuff. Oh, and "thunder katz", it's 16g dumb****!!

Really!?!?!? :eek::eek::eek:





















:cover:

[bdiddy]

Well technically speaking I think the euro Tibbys comes with the Neon SRT4 motor. I remember reading an article about dodge continuing the srt motor into the 08 tibby. SOOO, it is a possible factual statement.:rofl:

umm..... hyundai's don't have dodge motors. lol. and the 09 hyundai that they are comin out with has a turbo 4cyl, but it wont be the dodge engine.

[BigBalledOX]

umm..... hyundai's don't have dodge motors. lol. and the 09 hyundai that they are comin out with has a turbo 4cyl, but it wont be the dodge engine.

Right over your head there eh Tim?

[MagicHallucinations]

Right over your head there eh Tim?



He's so f**kin fired:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[bdiddy]

i hate you guys. lol

[crazyoldcougar]

this seems like he is a troll...

post some crazy crap just to get people fired up and then never responds back to his post..LOL

20 PSI on stock engine made me giggle though..

i have "seen" dryer vent intake extensions setup as ram air pushing some 10 lbs though so you never know..:rofl:

[Turbo Zetec 'tour]

i have "seen" dryer vent intake extensions setup as ram air pushing some 10 lbs though so you never know..:rofl:

i call :bs: on that too. Ram air doesnt take effect until about 300-400MPH.:crazy:

[XplosivePlushToy]

Thats good news then. That means my ram-air set-up on my old Cougar worked. I usually cruised at about 320-350mph, depending on traffic.

[crazyoldcougar]

ahhh i was being sarcastic....i hope you were too...LOL

[Honzo]

hey thunder, stickers add much more horsepower than that turbo for cheaper. btw, little hint, the greddy ones add about 10 hp each. I'm pushing near 600,000 hp at 10rpm so it's alright i guess. I beat a spaceship in a streetrace last weekend.

[CheeseEater88]

This thread made my day...
to bad I'll never know what was posted "..."

but rumor has it if you get a hold of V-Tech stickers they'll give you about 50 HP and about 35tq... down side is you can only have three, the just don't seem to work in a series... I had five on my one door but it was just the same as having one :(

but I moved one to my trunk and it works great!

I might even change the air in my tires...


I am saving up for some Hemi and 4X4 badges... who knows what I could do with 1348+ whp...


nah but on a serious note... what kind of engine internals should I rebuild with..... I am looking for 215-300hp turbo-ed
I do plan on doing it up right the first time around.... any recomendations?
I want something that will go the distance...
start with general description of part materials... then drop some names

I have no idea what I should shoot in composition of new internal materials.
just what has the best tolerences and who makes the best stuff..
this is a daily driver so it will be run hard :) (grr rush hour)

my mechanic talked me out of a swap :(
but I'll save big! I never new how much we could get out of a 2.0L...
but if I can get the 3.5L in the cougar... who knows
I just need some reliable parts that could last me for the life of my car (30,000 mi a year for many years to come)

pm me if you don't like posting answers... I get a non-solution every time I ask a question.

[cbman]

Aw man, that ruins the whole thread since he removed his post.

Anyway, hopefully you've read the Zetec Turbo FAQ. 215-300 HP is a wide range and are you referring to wheel or flywheel HP. If you are happy with 215-230 WHP then you could stick with stock internals as long as you have a good tune(your going to have to get it tuned), and that would actually be a really fun daily driver. As long as you size the turbo right, you could have awesome torque and fast spool-up.

If you do want 300 WHP, then you should get stronger internals. I have Eagle H-Beam rods and Wiseco Pistons (from raceeng.com), but you can get parts from places that sell parts for the Focus. Check out the sponsors on focaljet.com.

As far as the best tolerances, that will depend on the place you are having you block machined. Most aftermarket pistons are 0.007" over stock bore. So, you machinist will have to bore the cylinders to give you the proper clearances. There are some places that sell pistons for stock bore. If your cylinders are in good shape you could just hone them and go with the stock size.

One thing to consider: If you can find SVT Focus rods and pistons for cheap, that would be a good cost effective option. They can handle over 300 WHP. It is possible to find them used since there are SVT Focus people out there building up their engines and getting rid of the stock parts. Of course you'll want to get new rings.

One thing that I have sort of learned, if you go for big horsepower you probably won't have that fun of a daily driver. Your spool-up will take longer and you won't have as much low-end torque. If you shoot for 200-250 WHP and size the turbo just right, you could have a really fun daily driver.