How heavy is the 30

[bpimm]

Does anyone have the weight of a complete Duratec 30?

I'm thinking of using it for a project.

[FastCougar]

same weight (give or take 5lbs) as a fully dressed 2.5L.

[Blackcoog]

Using google I get a fully dressed weight of 365lbs. I had a shipping company weigh a 3L engine before I shipped it and they came up with 330lbs on a pallet.

[bpimm]

Using google I get a fully dressed weight of 365lbs. I had a shipping company weigh a 3L engine before I shipped it and they came up with 330lbs on a pallet.

That's pretty light, it might just work. What is the going price for a decent stock engine?

[Comando489]

may I ask what your project will be?

[FastCougar]

365 lbs is about right if you figure in fluids ;)

[bpimm]

may I ask what your project will be?

1962 Ford Anglia 308E.

http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m57/bdpimm/Panel/IMG_3282.jpg

http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m57/bdpimm/Panel/IMG_3281.jpg

[bpimm]

Using google I get a fully dressed weight of 365lbs. I had a shipping company weigh a 3L engine before I shipped it and they came up with 330lbs on a pallet.

Just out of curiosity what search string did you use on google, all I found was curb weight of the cars it came in.

[spridget]

1962 Ford Anglia 308E.

http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m57/bdpimm/Panel/IMG_3282.jpg

http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m57/bdpimm/Panel/IMG_3281.jpg


Nice find! I've been thinking about a 3L Duratec for my '67 Morris Minor pickup. I'm building a '62 Morris Panel Truck with a LS-1.

[Blackcoog]

I searched for 3L Duratec on google. A few forums have info on it:

Taurus Car Club of America > Duratec Cam Info, Svt Cams, 3l, Taurus (http://www.taurusclub.com/forum/lofiversion/index.php/t37838.html)

Oddly enough Spridget is the one that posted the info. lol

[bpimm]

Nice find! I've been thinking about a 3L Duratec for my '67 Morris Minor pickup. I'm building a '62 Morris Panel Truck with a LS-1.


That should move....

I'm actually going to use the Anglia for a tow rig for my autocross car.

got any pics of the morris panel? or is that on a different forum, neither of these little guys are Cougars...... and my Cougar is to old for this forum.. ;)

[bpimm]

I searched for 3L Duratec on google. A few forums have info on it:

Taurus Car Club of America > Duratec Cam Info, Svt Cams, 3l, Taurus (http://www.taurusclub.com/forum/lofiversion/index.php/t37838.html)

Oddly enough Spridget is the one that posted the info. lol

That's some good info, Thanks.

Does the duratec 3L have the same bell housing bolt pattern as the Cologne 4L
or am I limited to the Lincoln 5-spd Transmission?

[Comando489]

hehe the front kind of looks like a larger mini cooper. good luck with your project :thumbsup:

[spridget]

That's some good info, Thanks.

Does the duratec 3L have the same bell housing bolt pattern as the Cologne 4L
or am I limited to the Lincoln 5-spd Transmission?

I'm not familiar with the Cologne 4L. The Lincoln Getrag 5spd is pretty rare. Only 1800 Lincoln LS V6 MTX's were built. I've tried to snag a couple, but they pop up at the most inopportune moment when I can't afford them. You might look at the Aerostar bell housing. I know they were used to fit RWD to V6 SHO engines. You might also do a search for a guy that installed a 3L Duratec into a Merkur XR4Ti to see what he used.

Before:

http://mysite.verizon.net/res726b0/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/beginning.jpg


Currently:

Morris Minor Panel Truck Hot Rod (http://mysite.verizon.net/res726b0/spridget/id3.html)

[FastCougar]

I'm not familiar with the Cologne 4L. The Lincoln Getrag 5spd is pretty rare. Only 1800 Lincoln LS V6 MTX's were built. I've tried to snag a couple, but they pop up at the most inopportune moment when I can't afford them. You might look at the Aerostar bell housing. I know they were used to fit RWD to V6 SHO engines. You might also do a search for a guy that installed a 3L Duratec into a Merkur XR4Ti to see what he used.

Before:

http://mysite.verizon.net/res726b0/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/beginning.jpg


Currently:

Morris Minor Panel Truck Hot Rod (http://mysite.verizon.net/res726b0/spridget/id3.html)he used an adapter plate that was custom machined. Perhaps you can sweet talk the CAD files from him :shrug:

[Blackcoog]

The Jaguar S-type was a RWD 3L so there is another transmission that would work. I'm not sure if they ever came with 5-speeds though. The 3L/2.5L X-types did but that is transverse mounted in that car.

[FastCougar]

The Jaguar S-type was a RWD 3L so there is another transmission that would work. I'm not sure if they ever came with 5-speeds though. The 3L/2.5L X-types did but that is transverse mounted in that car.No S-Type manuals to my knowledge.

[bpimm]

I'm not familiar with the Cologne 4L. The Lincoln Getrag 5spd is pretty rare. Only 1800 Lincoln LS V6 MTX's were built. I've tried to snag a couple, but they pop up at the most inopportune moment when I can't afford them. You might look at the Aerostar bell housing. I know they were used to fit RWD to V6 SHO engines. You might also do a search for a guy that installed a 3L Duratec into a Merkur XR4Ti to see what he used.


The Cologne 4L is the ranger, areostar, explorer 4.0 v6. started smaller in the late 60's. came into this country as 2.6, 2.8, 2.9, and 4.0. I think that was all.

I searched for 2001 lincoln 5-spd on an auto salvage finder and they popped up all across the country, I wonder if they are used in something else and are just listed for Lincoln applications? Years ago a friend had a auto salvage yard and had a book on interchanges that listed all the parts that crossed over the model lines, I wonder if they still have that available. be nice to find it online.

Not sure if the Aerostar ever came with a manual but the Ranger did, if they use the same bell housing bolt pattern that would help. or if they shared it with the modular then the mustang tranny's would work. that would be to simple...


spridget: That panel is sweet.

[FastCougar]

IIRC, the Murker XR4ti used a Tremec T5 with an adapter plate ... this would be your best bet due to their high availabilty and multiple gearing options as well.

[FastCougar]

Here is a link to the XR4ti project in question:

Owner = David Godfrey

David Godfrey's Merkur XR4Ti Projects (http://www.key-ideas.com/DavidGodfreyPage.htm)

[SpookSVT]

Talk to Mr. Godfrey about it. There is more than just a simple adapter plate to be made.

[FastCougar]

Talk to Mr. Godfrey about it. There is more than just a simple adapter plate to be made.Actually, there isn't much more than that:

Merkur Page (http://www.key-ideas.com/DG_KurTwo2_090802Update.html)

Duratec 3.0 Engine Swap - T5 Transmission Adapter (http://www.key-ideas.com/DGKurTwo2112402Update.html)

[SpookSVT]

It isn't quite that easy!

[SpookSVT]

On the Lincoln Getrag 5sp, I'd recommend not using one if serious power is in order. They didn't use the 5sp on the V8's for a reason!

[bpimm]

One of the reasons I'm looking at this engine is it will have plenty of power for the application in stock form, no modifications needed. the whole car should weigh in around 1500 lbs. when finished which is a power to weight ratio of around 7.2 Lbs/HP . which should give me plenty of power to play with even when towing the race car.

The problem I see with adapting the t-5 is the custom flywheel. if there were a flywheel that could be used in stock or modified form that would cut the cost quite a bit. maybe he did that because he wanted to and there is a flywheel solution, I haven't looked yet.

Thanks for all the great information

[SpookSVT]

It would seem the Getrag might be fine for your application then. This would get around the flywheel/clutch and starter alignment issues for the most part. Not sure, but the LS bolt pattern may be different than the standard V6's so it may not be a straight swap unless an LS engine is used. Something else you might want to look into...

You might be best off just getting an entire LS powertrain if this is the case. It will be tough to find one though. I have a hard enough time finding LS engines. Yet to find one with a 5sp!