New Stage3Motorworks 3.0 liter

[Adam98SVT]

1998.5 Black CSVT 133k aka The Batmobile
Stage3Motorworks installation
Stock 04 Taurus 3.0 liter 19k miles
Gutted manifolds, stock SVT exhaust
Coil On Plug ignition
Akron Horsepower tune
18" Enkei RS-6s

Here it is start to finish.

Full 3L Swap - FordContour.Org (http://www.fordcontour.org/Full-3L-Swap-t8549.html)
2.5L knock - FordContour.Org (http://www.fordcontour.org/25L-knock-t9266.html)
Pics of the new 3L - FordContour.Org (http://www.fordcontour.org/Pics-3L-t9953.html)
Congrats Adam98SVT! - FordContour.Org (http://www.fordcontour.org/Congrats-Adam98SVT-t10022.html)

Thanks Dominic and Billy.

Adam

[streetracer8605]

wtf is a stage 3 3l?

[Adam98SVT]

wtf is a stage 3 3l?

Stage3Motorworks is the company owned/operated by Dominic Nudo in Ohio who did the build.

FCO Home (http://www.fordcontour.org)

Adam

[J-Man]

Don't mind Jeff, he's drunk. :rofl:

[streetracer8605]

Don't mind Jeff, he's drunk. :rofl:

haha, yes i was.

well congrats on the 3l. have you had it dyno'ed?

[cpapashley]

mmmmmmm....cannot seem to get any pictures............

[Adam98SVT]

haha, yes i was.

well congrats on the 3l. have you had it dyno'ed?

Thanks! Akron Horsepower tuned it. It broke the dyno. Est. 200hp/205tq.

In January I will do a few pulls on the same dyno down here and get the real #s.

Adam

[Adam98SVT]

mmmmmmm....cannot seem to get any pictures............

You mean in my thread on FCO correct? Just register there its instant and you can see everything. Or if you have an account just make sure your logged in.

Adam

[warmonger]

Stage3Motorworks is the company owned/operated by Dominic Nudo in Ohio who did the build.

FCO Home (http://www.fordcontour.org)

Adam

Oh, you mean the Stage3 completely stock Ovalport.
I guess that means an intake will be like stage 6, headers will be stage 9, etc.

[Adam98SVT]

Oh, you mean the Stage3 completely stock Ovalport.
I guess that means an intake will be like stage 6, headers will be stage 9, etc.

You know Tom, when you posted a nice mature "agree to disagree" post on FCO I thought I would reply and just give you kudos for that...yes I flamed you and Joey once but since I PM'ed both of you about it from your responses I thought the beef was dropped.

Check out post 147 on the tq/hp comparison thread. You have proven time and time again that you are about as stable as a drunk 3 legged dog. You flame Dom, attempt to drop the beef, and now just take a stab at me for what? I have type 1 Bipolar disorder. I take 3 psychiatrist prescribed medications that sometimes work. You need help.

Dominic started his own business. The name of the business is Stage3Motorworks. I guess you didnt read my initial post:

1998.5 Black CSVT 133k aka The Batmobile
Stage3Motorworks installation
Stock 04 Taurus 3.0 liter 19k miles
Gutted manifolds, stock SVT exhaust
Coil On Plug ignition
Akron Horsepower tune
18" Enkei RS-6s

Clearly pointing out the installation was by Stage3Motorworks. Also I clearly stated the donor motor was from an 04 Taurus with 19k miles. And I also noted it was "stock" aka full/straight oval. Do you even know how to read?

I'm quite happy about that as everything done to the car was chosen specifically by me with what options Dominic has to offer.

Moderators please lock warmonger out of this thread. Alternatively lock this thread completely if you have to. I can be found on fordcontour.org and fordbastards.org.

This is a positive discussion about a very fun and very desirable modification to any Contour, Mistique, Mondeo, or Cougar enthusiast.

Tom, keep my name out of your mouth and ill do the same. You see me at a meet start walking away...better for both of us.

Adam

[buckeyesvt]

Oh, you mean the Stage3 completely stock Ovalport.
I guess that means an intake will be like stage 6, headers will be stage 9, etc.

And your point about completely stock is? If you're going to knock it, say why. It isn't stock for an SVT is it? :rolleyes:

First you insult me personally, now you're insulting my business name as well? For someone that goes around crying to everyone else that you don't start anything - I'm sure getting a little tired of the "Boy who cried wolf". :blah:

This is Adam's thread. He's extremely happy with his engine build and his overall experience with my shop (Stage3Motorworks). Perhaps this bothers you, maybe you don't like it. Insults and cheap shots are getting to be the norm with you... Sad really. Give the man props for his new engine and move on. Wanna take cheap shots at me anywhere you can? Come back on FCO...

:evil:

-Dom

[spridget]

Oh, you mean the Stage3 completely stock Ovalport.
I guess that means an intake will be like stage 6, headers will be stage 9, etc.


He just can't seem to let go of that **** stirring stick. :rofl:




Adam, check FordBastards for the next track weekend at Texas World Speedway. Should be in February. Most of us are local to Texas, but a couple guys from Chicago usually come down (Kirk's 3.3L V6 SHO is awesome!). These guys are a riot... you don't know what fun is until you watch a bunch of idiots in 15yr old Taurus's running circles around high end, high dollar sports cars.... and laughing the entire time. Hopefully a couple of the SuperSHO's make it out next time. We usually all get rooms at the Motel 8, get wasted at the Fox and Hound pub, and stumble back. Sunday morning can be rough at first, but by mid-morning, adrenaline has taken over and you are as sober as the Virgin Mary.

[Adam98SVT]

He just can't seem to let go of that **** stirring stick. :rofl:




Adam, check FordBastards for the next track weekend at Texas World Speedway. Should be in February. Most of us are local to Texas, but a couple guys from Chicago usually come down (Kirk's 3.3L V6 SHO is awesome!). These guys are a riot... you don't know what fun is until you watch a bunch of idiots in 15yr old Taurus's running circles around high end, high dollar sports cars.... and laughing the entire time. Hopefully a couple of the SuperSHO's make it out next time. We usually all get rooms at the Motel 8, get wasted at the Fox and Hound pub, and stumble back. Sunday morning can be rough at first, but by mid-morning, adrenaline has taken over and you are as sober as the Virgin Mary.

I will! Sounds like my kind of fun!

Adam

[Adam98SVT]

quote

This is Adam's thread. He's extremely happy with his engine build and his overall experience with my shop (Stage3Motorworks). Perhaps this bothers you, maybe you don't like it. Insults and cheap shots are getting to be the norm with you... Sad really. Give the man props for his new engine and move on. Wanna take cheap shots at me anywhere you can? Come back on FCO...

:evil:

-Dom

/quote

I am extremely happy with Stage3Motorworks Dominic and Billy do TOP NOTCH work. Not a single corner was cut. Dom is as stand-up as I would expect from any shop performing that level of modification.

Dom and I are friends and fellow free-thinkers but business is business and If I was unhappy about the way things turned out I would have said so. Anyone in South Florida want to feel the straight/stock/oval/whatever 3L PM me Id love to demonstrate the performance of this setup.

Yeh, and instantly upon delivery, with the new COP ignition solution, I drove it 2000 miles in less than 2 days with exactly 0 problems. I drove it hard and still got 25mpg on the highway, and over 20 in the city. This engine/tune combination is 100% money regardless of who does the install.

And Dominic has already covered the actual DIY cost on other threads. Quite a bargain.

Adam

[BurritaSVT]

Adam

Sorry you ended up in the crosshairs of Tom and Dom I know the personal attacks pretty much ended all chances for either of them to talk for awhile. I am apologizing for him since I know it was not directed towards you.

Sincerely I am glad you are enjoying your new found power and it seems you made a very good choice and received the service you wanted too. Good Job

Joey

[Adam98SVT]

Adam

Sorry you ended up in the crosshairs of Tom and Dom I know the personal attacks pretty much ended all chances for either of them to talk for awhile. I am apologizing for him since I know it was not directed towards you.

Sincerely I am glad you are enjoying your new found power and it seems you made a very good choice and received the service you wanted too. Good Job

Joey

Thanks! Im smokin VTECs like Chong smokes trees. :rofl:

Adam

[warmonger]

You know Tom, when you posted a nice mature "agree to disagree" post on FCO I thought I would reply and just give you kudos for that...yes I flamed you and Joey once but since I PM'ed both of you about it from your responses I thought the beef was dropped.
.......

Tom, keep my name out of your mouth and ill do the same. You see me at a meet start walking away...better for both of us.

Adam

Adam, I was not taking a stab at you. I was just making a crack joke about it being a stage3 motor, wondering what that was and then I realized it was a "brand name" and not a motor type. Just a joke. Geeze though I guess if I'm talking to anyone that spends time on FCO then I'm not allowed to act normal and have a little fun.
If you saw the thread on FCO then you saw how I was treated when I tried to make peace. You didn't see any name calling from me and and you haven't seen anything that is bipolar. Not in this thread nor others. I just wouldn't have assumed that you and Dom were connected at the hip and that I would have to treat you with kid gloves like I do him. If that's not the case then please just relax. If you want to take it personal the I appologize.

However, here's some food for thought. You stand by and watch as someone else proceeds to start ragging on my partner for being ignorant, our company for making junk and me for having my own opinions. You, spridget and God knows who else will keep silent as the man tries to say bad things about us when we never mentioned FCO, then watch without saying a word as he and a few others jump on me when I try to defend myself. Dom would love to make me look like the bad guy.
Ask yourself how long I've been on this forum. Now then search up any post not related to responding to this guy and ask how many bits of Drama I was ever in? I'll tell you, none. That's right nothing personal in any way, nothing other than agree to disagree.
Go to contour.org and run the same thing and the most you'll find is a heated discussion or two. IN EIGHT YEARS.

Now I try to make peace, bite my tongue and you read what he wrote:

guess you think I sit on my ass and make things up? Funny you come on here finally and ask I don't include your name anymore... Why is that? Because you've taken enough beatings on the forums or there is too much trouble caused by all the mis-information you've been feeding people? Your SVT idea is pointless, my first opinion and it still stands. Period. If you want to post that on ANY forum that it's better and your idea is better - Look out. I'll be there to rebuke it. Period!

Your a big enough person now after you personally attacked me on NECO for anything I've ever done. That was a ***** move, I didn't do that to you in any of those posts. I said you may not know how to measure, but I never called any of your "other" ideas stupid. Only your SVT theories and LIM "mod". Do you wish to contest that as well? I wasn't trying to piss you off, I was using facts against your theories. If facts piss you off, then somewhere something's wrong....lol. bleh.gif

Save your breath, there is no saving face here. All you've proven is that you are a "tool" in my book. That's my opinion, if anyone asks - I'll tell them the same thing. I don't do two-faced crap - You know exactly where you stand with me at all times. This "sincere" gesture for the "community" is all just a way to back out of everything. Thanks, but no thanks.

-Dom

Don't you read anything that anyone else posts? Don't any of you realize this?
You want me not to say anything and then let him continue....I'm not Jesus and I don't keep on turning the other cheek.
Why don't you ask yourself what you would do?
Everything was calm until you read this page of this thread and see the responses.
http://www.newcougar.org/forums/3-0l-duratec-performance/116674-direct-tq-hp-comparison-3l-straight-oval-hybrid-15.html

And please don't say the "walk the other way stuff". You absolutely can't be that mad over a joke not pointed at you enough that you'd actually want to fight over it.....You must be seeing something else to get you so irate.
I'm sure we are both reasonable people so it's too bad you'll take affront so easily to something not even pointed at you.
Still, sorry for the difficulties this must have caused you.
Like Joey and I have discussed...there's no peace with that man.

[warmonger]

quote

This is Adam's thread. He's extremely happy with his engine build and his overall experience with my shop (Stage3Motorworks). Perhaps this bothers you, maybe you don't like it. Insults and cheap shots are getting to be the norm with you... Sad really. Give the man props for his new engine and move on. Wanna take cheap shots at me anywhere you can? Come back on FCO...

:evil:

-Dom

/quote

I am extremely happy with Stage3Motorworks Dominic and Billy do TOP NOTCH work. Not a single corner was cut. Dom is as stand-up as I would expect from any shop performing that level of modification.

Dom and I are friends and fellow free-thinkers but business is business and If I was unhappy about the way things turned out I would have said so. Anyone in South Florida want to feel the straight/stock/oval/whatever 3L PM me Id love to demonstrate the performance of this setup.

Yeh, and instantly upon delivery, with the new COP ignition solution, I drove it 2000 miles in less than 2 days with exactly 0 problems. I drove it hard and still got 25mpg on the highway, and over 20 in the city. This engine/tune combination is 100% money regardless of who does the install.

And Dominic has already covered the actual DIY cost on other threads. Quite a bargain.

Adam

Again, I also am happy that your received what you were looking for.
You don't deserve to be in the middle of that and I appologize.

[Adam98SVT]

Again, I also am happy that your received what you were looking for.
You don't deserve to be in the middle of that and I appologize.

I dont defend Dom just like I dont defend you, because I dont know what Im talking about. I will be getting a 05 3l soon just to tear it appart, still new to a lot of this stuff.

Looking at it from my perspective it looked like you picked out the most recent build by your nemesis and took the chance to flame so I responded accordingly as it is my car. Yeh I guess someone could rile me up enough to bang if they dog on my ****. If thats not the case, as now it does not seem so, then nevermind.

I love to talk trash. I am the least sensitive guy youll run into. Just ask Keith or Dom. All in good fun of course. If its a joke between freinds, you can run my name through the mud like theres no tomorrow Ill just laugh and throw it right back at you..again all in good fun.

Your post did not seem so much like that, more like the opposite given the history of yourself and Dominic. But if you say it was intended to be a joke or in a joking manner, Ill accept your apology and it will join the water under the bridge.

Adam

[warmonger]

He just can't seem to let go of that **** stirring stick. :rofl:




Adam, check FordBastards for the next track weekend at Texas World Speedway. Should be in February. Most of us are local to Texas, but a couple guys from Chicago usually come down (Kirk's 3.3L V6 SHO is awesome!). These guys are a riot... you don't know what fun is until you watch a bunch of idiots in 15yr old Taurus's running circles around high end, high dollar sports cars.... and laughing the entire time. Hopefully a couple of the SuperSHO's make it out next time. We usually all get rooms at the Motel 8, get wasted at the Fox and Hound pub, and stumble back. Sunday morning can be rough at first, but by mid-morning, adrenaline has taken over and you are as sober as the Virgin Mary.

Perfect opportunity for me to come down there like you offered and the both of you can speak your minds in person....if you're still game about it.
I don't know what it costs to enter or if they'll even let me but I wouldn't mind trying.
Isn't this the one near College Station?

[warmonger]

Hey Adam, your picture of Muay Thai kickboxing makes me assume you like to train? While you are down here you ought to stop by the club up here in Killeen, it's only 15 min out of your way if you are coming down and they have classes and open mat sessions every day.

[Adam98SVT]

Hey Adam, your picture of Muay Thai kickboxing makes me assume you like to train? While you are down here you ought to stop by the club up here in Killeen, it's only 15 min out of your way if you are coming down and they have classes and open mat sessions every day.

Yes I like mixed martial arts very much, completely obsessed. I just found a dojo with ju-jitsu classes (blue belt instructor) here in Naples (just today off a bumper sticker haha). I have never formally trained, but I have a good friend who was a judo player for Indiana Hoosiers. Brown belt. He won a national title, and tons of honors. He has taught me a lot. I love catch wrestling (submissions). Im 6-4 so triangles are easier to get, after that I just LOVE getting an armbar!

I also have another friend who was a world-class (literally) freestyle wrestler, and had the HW belt in the Indiana cage promotion (defended 2 times) until it got shut down. Both of them went to school with (and were/are good friends with) Jon Fitch who is a rising star at 170 pounds in the UFC after he just whipped Diego Sanchez :bowdown: My friend the wrestler was a better wrestler in high school, and at the open mat time after practice, Jon would ALWAYS call out Ryan, because he was by far the best wrestler in his school (and the state for that matter). They were good friends, but Jon got owned every time. Ryan sent him crying off the mat all the time. What a difference a decade of determination can make.

Jon Fitch MMA Fighter (http://www.fitchfighter.com)

And Ive watched litterally thousands of hours of PRIDE FC, and UFC pay per views. I have them all on DVD. So we have some fun, but those guys always own me :(

Well since I just jacked my own thread if anyone is interested in talking MMA start something up in the OT forums!

Adam

[spridget]

Perfect opportunity for me to come down there like you offered and the both of you can speak your minds in person....if you're still game about it.
I don't know what it costs to enter or if they'll even let me but I wouldn't mind trying.
Isn't this the one near College Station?

This is the one in college station. Spectators are free, cost to run on the track is about $250 for two days. You need a helmet and pass a safety inspection.

Check out FordBastards.org for more.

[warmonger]

Dude I love it too! I've been training at both FullCircle MMA here and at the Grapplers lair just off I-35 in Temple TX. lol Joey keeps wondering when I'm going to get back to the house and start tuning when I get home from work, instead I'm working out.
I started my son it in almost 3 years ago and he is very technical now. He just did a tournament last month and got third place. Yeah I'm kinda tall compared to the average as well but no six four. I'm about 6'2" and it does help with triangles and in general working people. I actually started with Judo but there are no qualified instructors in the area so I went to jiu jitsu just to keep up on it. When I lived in Tucson I did Judo there and I had the privilege of training with Don Fry, the firefighter from Sierra Vista AZ twice a week for about six months. He "used" several of us in a row so that he was challenged for a long time. All of us were over 6' and 200lbs and we'd go for five minutes each with him to build his strength and stamina. The guy was brick house man!
I do enjoy rolling! I have to cancel my membership now that I'm going overseas again but when I get back I'm definitely going to start right back up.

Good luck with it but stay in it as you may find you get out of shape quick if you stop. :cool: Oh yeah, sorry to jack the post though.....dang, I caused all kinds of issues in it. :goofy:

[warmonger]

Okay, well $250 is a lot but maybe they have just a limited amount for half a day or something. I'll check into it.

[cpapashley]

You know Tom, when you posted a nice mature "agree to disagree" post on FCO I thought I would reply and just give you kudos for that...yes I flamed you and Joey once but since I PM'ed both of you about it from your responses I thought the beef was dropped.

Check out post 147 on the tq/hp comparison thread. You have proven time and time again that you are about as stable as a drunk 3 legged dog. You flame Dom, attempt to drop the beef, and now just take a stab at me for what? I have type 1 Bipolar disorder. I take 3 psychiatrist prescribed medications that sometimes work. You need help.

Dominic started his own business. The name of the business is Stage3Motorworks. I guess you didnt read my initial post:

1998.5 Black CSVT 133k aka The Batmobile
Stage3Motorworks installation
Stock 04 Taurus 3.0 liter 19k miles
Gutted manifolds, stock SVT exhaust
Coil On Plug ignition
Akron Horsepower tune
18" Enkei RS-6s

Clearly pointing out the installation was by Stage3Motorworks. Also I clearly stated the donor motor was from an 04 Taurus with 19k miles. And I also noted it was "stock" aka full/straight oval. Do you even know how to read?

I'm quite happy about that as everything done to the car was chosen specifically by me with what options Dominic has to offer.

Moderators please lock warmonger out of this thread. Alternatively lock this thread completely if you have to. I can be found on fordcontour.org and fordbastards.org.

This is a positive discussion about a very fun and very desirable modification to any Contour, Mistique, Mondeo, or Cougar enthusiast.

Tom, keep my name out of your mouth and ill do the same. You see me at a meet start walking away...better for both of us.

Adam

Adam,

I would like to know how those COP's are going. I know you say no problems. I guess I would like to know just from the point of being a prospective buyer. No problems with running/tuning etc.

[Adam98SVT]

COP ignition has worked perfect so far. Silky smooth throttle response. I would say go for it. No coil pack, and the harness could easily be asthetically modified if you dont like the standard black harness loom stuff.

Tomorrow Im going to run around a bit and try find a stock aluminum sheet maybe 1/8" thick. I am going to make a custom shroud to mount over the front valve cover. There will be notches cut to display the individual coils, plenty of slits for ventilation, and Ill have a local cnc shop engrave the new Batman logo on it and some specs. Sort of replicating the plastic SVT shroud on the 2.5.

I will probably polish it aluminum and paint my valve covers black, or polish the valve covers and paint the shroud black to match the UIM.

Adam

[cpapashley]

COP ignition has worked perfect so far. Silky smooth throttle response. I would say go for it. No coil pack, and the harness could easily be asthetically modified if you dont like the standard black harness loom stuff.

Tomorrow Im going to run around a bit and try find a stock aluminum sheet maybe 1/8" thick. I am going to make a custom shroud to mount over the front valve cover. There will be notches cut to display the individual coils, plenty of slits for ventilation, and Ill have a local cnc shop engrave the new Batman logo on it and some specs. Sort of replicating the plastic SVT shroud on the 2.5.

I will probably polish it aluminum and paint my valve covers black, or polish the valve covers and paint the shroud black to match the UIM.

Adam

Sounds like it will look great Adam, post up some pics when you have it all in place...or even a "as you go" would be good.

[Adam98SVT]

Sounds like it will look great Adam, post up some pics when you have it all in place...or even a "as you go" would be good.

I will, although since I have a hard enough time keeping up with 3 websites, I will post it on FCO, and link to it here.

I intended to buy material today, but did not. I am searching the web for possibly a more unique matarial that might pique my interest :wink:.

I am going to make a mock-up with cardboard first, and after the mock-up is finished and I have decided on the material, I will post plenty of pics, CAD drawings for anyone to replicate or have a fabricator replicate, and also the same drawings in raster format (png) for people who do not have AutoCAD.

Again it will be posted on FCO Home (http://www.fordcontour.org), but I intend to link back with a NECO post.

Adam