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shadowfox28
09-17-2006, 07:25 PM
I just got a new job for mortgage company in glencove, and im making an hourly wage along with commision. money is a lot easier to come by now soo i decided to put my exhaust on before the end of the month.
I am doing true dual but i cant decide how the piping should setup. The msds headers should get to me this week and i am having American Muffler install the custom piping. (they do amazing work) It will cost the same no matter what i do with the piping side pipes, center exit, or a gapped rear exit. I am really liking the center exhaust idea.. but i just cant decide.

PonyGirl
09-17-2006, 09:30 PM
I love the look of the gapped rear. The chick I work with has a dual on hers. I'll try and take a pic for ya if you want?

The center is cool, but might look like a Mini-Cooper in the end.

MercCoug99
09-17-2006, 10:00 PM
you need a bumper that looks good with the center exit. IMO stock just doesnt work

1COUGAR99
09-17-2006, 10:06 PM
Are you going with Mild-Steel or SS? What size piping?

Merc is right, center would look a tad odd with the stock bumper. If you had the Cougar S kit then it would work:banana:.

Our cars it seems were meant to have a dual exhaust....until the bean counters stepped in. I personally love the look of a dual exhaust on the cougar....but I might be biased since that is what I have.

shadowfox28
09-18-2006, 11:13 AM
the tips are going to be three inch rolled GLoss Black.....The only reason i was even considering center exhaust was because of this guys car.. http://www.newcougar.org/forums/showthread.php?t=100463
I love it!!!

1COUGAR99
09-18-2006, 05:00 PM
That guy has the bumper for it though.

3" tips will look good. What size piping is the exhaust going to be? I ask because if your going with 3" piping from the cat back you are going to loose low end tq. It really comes down to your plans. If you want F/I then 3" would be the way to go. If your going to stay N/A then 2.25" maybe 2.5" would be the way to go.

What type of pipe? SS?

shadowfox28
09-18-2006, 06:55 PM
That guy has the bumper for it though.

3" tips will look good. What size piping is the exhaust going to be? I ask because if your going with 3" piping from the cat back you are going to loose low end tq. It really comes down to your plans. If you want F/I then 3" would be the way to go. If your going to stay N/A then 2.25" maybe 2.5" would be the way to go.

What type of pipe? SS?
Ok this will be my setup 1)msds headers
2)Straight 2" piping all the way back
3)two dynomax mufflers
4)two Quad exit center exhaust Gloss black tips
... The guy at the shop does not want to run the pipes underneath the fuel tank.. he says it is not legal and very dangerous.... im making him do it anyway but the guy was freakin me out.
.... he told me that a friend of his did the same thing that I am doing and he bottomed out going like 40mph and the gas tank ruptured foll0wed by a large explosion and wrecked car. I seriosly doubt this will happen to me though becuase i am using aluminum and im pretty shore the gas tank can take a bigger beating then the thin aluminum piping.

1COUGAR99
09-18-2006, 08:01 PM
Your doing a true dual setup?

Under the gas tank is not a problem. Many have done it. If you wanted to you could wrap the pipes and put a reflector on the tank.

Wait a second....Aluminum piping :ugh:

shadowfox28
09-18-2006, 08:35 PM
Your doing a true dual setup?

Under the gas tank is not a problem. Many have done it. If you wanted to you could wrap the pipes and put a reflector on the tank.

Wait a second....Aluminum piping :ugh:
YEa True duals that run all the way back and an h pipe near the front of the car.Yea wats wrong with aluminum??? ss is too freakin heavy. the gas tank is protected by a plastic shield but i guess i'll throw some of that refective heat padding up there too be safe.

Bigoudi
09-18-2006, 09:43 PM
Correction: SS is too expensive... :)

Greg

shadowfox28
09-18-2006, 09:48 PM
Correction: SS is too expensive... :)

Greg
You say POTATOE i say PATATO

1COUGAR99
09-18-2006, 11:41 PM
Should be a nice setup.

I said that about Aluminum because if you are not careful it will develop cracks over time. Do you know what alloy and wall thickness will be used?

If your worried about cost, aluminized steel would work. Weight is really not much of an issue. I mean you'll maybe save 5 lbs.

jrak123
09-19-2006, 12:02 AM
Correction: SS is too expensive... :)

Greg
and brittle after heat cycling. Mild steel is your best bet, just keep it free of salt, or have it aluminized

yakko69
09-19-2006, 12:31 AM
What mortgage company are you working for? Also, where in Garden city is the company based out of? What are you doing at the mortgage company?

shadowfox28
09-19-2006, 02:53 PM
What mortgage company are you working for? Also, where in Garden city is the company based out of? What are you doing at the mortgage company?
whoops my fault.. its sterling national out of glen cove. I am basically getting leads for the loan officers, calling up past clients, and taking applications from all the loan site like lendingtree.com and nextag.com..... Me, my cousin, and two of our friends our head of the new and proud "Sterling telemarketing"branch. Its pretty legit. We have our own office and everything. Dont you and Pat work for a mortgage company aswell?

shadowfox28
09-19-2006, 02:55 PM
and brittle after heat cycling. Mild steel is your best bet, just keep it free of salt, or have it aluminized
Is there any coating i can use for the aluminum piping? THey are giving me a 3 years guarantee. Any cracking, splitting, leaks, rust.. etc.. they will repair it for free. Not badd in my book

1COUGAR99
09-19-2006, 05:41 PM
jrak was talking about Stainless. It really comes down to the alloy of metal used. A 304 Stainless would not crack.

I would hope Aluminum pipe will not rust ;). It's not a bad deal. Your sure it's aluminum pipe though and not aluminized steel they are using? Salt also eats Aluminum so you might want to clean it every now and then.

shadowfox28
09-19-2006, 06:16 PM
yea im almost 100% positive its aluminum but all the flanges are metal so thats where the rust factor comes into play.

1COUGAR99
09-19-2006, 11:23 PM
Gotchya.

Two things though...when you talk to the guy again ask him:

1. What alloy the pipe is.
2. What the wall thickness is.

I'm curious.

shadowfox28
09-20-2006, 11:07 AM
Thats a roger...ill also post pics of the before and after...

Dat1BlueCat
09-20-2006, 11:44 AM
How come i dont see a TRANSMITION SWAP in your set up? just wondering.

shadowfox28
09-20-2006, 02:33 PM
How come i dont see a TRANSMITION SWAP in your set up? just wondering.
Because i dont plan on swapping my trannsmission. I have the shift kit already installed

TheGreatOne
09-23-2006, 11:48 AM
the tips are going to be three inch rolled GLoss Black.....The only reason i was even considering center exhaust was because of this guys car.. http://www.newcougar.org/forums/showthread.php?t=100463
I love it!!!

if you wanna look at it from a performance standpoint, more bends = bad. that guys tailpipe(s) are bent all the way around the gas tank - as opposed to almost straight back if he had used the standard exits.

shadowfox28
09-23-2006, 05:07 PM
if you wanna look at it from a performance standpoint, more bends = bad. that guys tailpipe(s) are bent all the way around the gas tank - as opposed to almost straight back if he had used the standard exits.
O i was just showing that pick for the look of the center exit exhaust. Mine will run straight underneath. headers all the way back STRAIGHT.

TheGreatOne
09-24-2006, 03:21 PM
yeah, um if you find a mechanic willing to route your exhaust pipes directly under your gas tank - run, don't walk, in the opposite direction.

shadowfox28
09-24-2006, 03:59 PM
yeah, um if you find a mechanic willing to route your exhaust pipes directly under your gas tank - run, don't walk, in the opposite direction.
May i ask why you say this? I have heat shielding there and my car is not dropped...and it has been done before with no problems yet... Demon svt has a setup that runs straight through then splits in the middle of the rear spare tire well.


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