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Gebby · 01-03-2006, 09:52 AM

i did not see this anywhere but what about a 3l out of a 96 sable? i was wandering because i have one in my other car. if it will not work then when i get ready to do the swap i will find another engine.

jrak123 · 01-03-2006, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Gebby

i did not see this anywhere but what about a 3l out of a 96 sable? i was wandering because i have one in my other car. if it will not work then when i get ready to do the swap i will find another engine.

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travelbill · 01-07-2006, 01:23 PM

The Lincoln LS/Jaguar 3.0 engines from 2002-2002 did not have VVT, this was introduced in the 2003 MY. The '00-'02 engine made 215 HP at the crank and 178 at the rear and should be compatable. The intake manifolds are quite different from the FWD engines, this is where a lot of the modification would have to take place.

BigBalledOX · 01-07-2006, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by travelbill

The Lincoln LS/Jaguar 3.0 engines from 2002-2002 did not have VVT, this was introduced in the 2003 MY. The '00-'02 engine made 215 HP at the crank and 178 at the rear and should be compatable. The intake manifolds are quite different from the FWD engines, this is where a lot of the modification would have to take place.

And . . . *drumroll please* . . . MAJOR fuel line modifications due to FWD vs RWD/AWD.

Not trying to start a flame war here, but can we see some credentials? There are many VERY knowledgeable people who have assembled this FAQ through experience, so I kinda wonder who you are.

Blackcoog · 01-09-2006, 11:16 AM

Completely incorrect. All Jaguar X-type engines 2.5L or 3.0L have VVT on them. The LS is a different car and the engine is mounted differently so it is quite possible the LS didn't have VVT until later on. There is no question that the Jaguar X-type has had it since it was put on the market in 2002. The LS does have a lower hp rating for 2002 at 210hp vs the Jag's 231hp so it's possible that the LS didn't have VVT until 2003.

StealthyWeasel · 01-09-2006, 11:33 PM

For which years do the SVT Cams switch in with no extra work?

Blackcoog · 01-11-2006, 10:13 AM

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For which years do the SVT Cams switch in with no extra work?

01+ Tarus/Sable/Escape engines

travelbill · 01-29-2006, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by BigBalledOX

And . . . *drumroll please* . . . MAJOR fuel line modifications due to FWD vs RWD/AWD.

Not trying to start a flame war here, but can we see some credentials? There are many VERY knowledgeable people who have assembled this FAQ through experience, so I kinda wonder who you are.

No problem, I've been northeast region director of the Lincoln LS Owner's Club for several years, I own an '00 Lincoln LS with 3.0L and one of the rare Getrag manual transmissions. Also for MY '03 and forward the throttle was changed from mechanical to electronic. I've been roving boards for lots of different cars to try and find what people are doing to modify their 3.0's. The best example I've found is the Roush tuned 3.0 for the Noble, that sucker puts out 425 hp with modified cams, port & polished heads, forged pistons and twin turbo's, but at $18,000 an engine I guess you should expect as much.

I'm not positive, but I believe the biggest difference in the LS/Jag engine is in the heads, the valves and cams use DAMB tappets instead of the rollers used in the taurus/sable. In the Jag it's known as the AJ30 engine. Believe it or not the 3.0 was orriginally a Porsche design which they sold to Cosworth(which Ford just sold) who developed the 2.5 Duratec and eventually bored it out to the 3.0 litre size.

99ADCCOUGAR · 03-29-2006, 05:59 PM

how difficult would it be to get a 3L swap into my 99 mtx coug??? and the infamous question...HOW MUCH

AnthonyP · 03-29-2006, 08:06 PM

When I asked the 3L Install Maestro I was told around 3g, not sure if that counted the engine though ...

Edit: BTW does anyone know anything about the 3L crate engine on arizonadynochip.com ?

01-03-2006, 09:52 AM	#31 (permalink)
Gebby NECO Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 200	Re: READ THIS FIRST - WHAT ENGINES WILL FIT MY CAR? i did not see this anywhere but what about a 3l out of a 96 sable? i was wandering because i have one in my other car. if it will not work then when i get ready to do the swap i will find another engine.

01-07-2006, 01:23 PM	#33 (permalink)
travelbill NECO Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Plymouth, MA Posts: 2	Re: READ THIS FIRST - WHAT ENGINES WILL FIT MY CAR? The Lincoln LS/Jaguar 3.0 engines from 2002-2002 did not have VVT, this was introduced in the 2003 MY. The '00-'02 engine made 215 HP at the crank and 178 at the rear and should be compatable. The intake manifolds are quite different from the FWD engines, this is where a lot of the modification would have to take place.

01-09-2006, 11:16 AM	#35 (permalink)
Blackcoog 3L Install Maestro Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Minneapolis, MN Posts: 4,293	Re: READ THIS FIRST - WHAT ENGINES WILL FIT MY CAR? Completely incorrect. All Jaguar X-type engines 2.5L or 3.0L have VVT on them. The LS is a different car and the engine is mounted differently so it is quite possible the LS didn't have VVT until later on. There is no question that the Jaguar X-type has had it since it was put on the market in 2002. The LS does have a lower hp rating for 2002 at 210hp vs the Jag's 231hp so it's possible that the LS didn't have VVT until 2003. __________________ Current Rides 1999 MTX Cougar, 3L Supercharged 325hp and 278tq 1999 SVT Contour, Ported 3L Visit: http://www.3lduratec.com For info on ready to drop in 3L's and our supercharger kit.

01-09-2006, 11:33 PM	#36 (permalink)
StealthyWeasel NECO Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 4,003 Images: 3	Re: READ THIS FIRST - WHAT ENGINES WILL FIT MY CAR? For which years do the SVT Cams switch in with no extra work? __________________ 10,100 RPM Once it's done, it's done! Can't wait.

03-29-2006, 05:59 PM	#39 (permalink)
99ADCCOUGAR NECO Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Daytona Beach, FL Posts: 462	Re: READ THIS FIRST - WHAT ENGINES WILL FIT MY CAR? how difficult would it be to get a 3L swap into my 99 mtx coug??? and the infamous question...HOW MUCH __________________ Dave decided he wants to move out on his own. 1999 White Cougar MTX 2.5 - Built as much as I could with what money i had. 226 fwhp on the funny stuff SOLD =( minus the motor 1998 MB E320 - ROAD MONSTER, SLK32 AMG Supercharger Unit, Renntech Pulley,ECU,TCU upgrades, Lowered, 18x9 on all 4 corners = 450bhp/ 475tq/5 spd auto/Handles like a beast = Kick Major Culo on Highways..... Fun stuff now for my Uncle SOLD =(

03-29-2006, 08:06 PM	#40 (permalink)
AnthonyP NECO Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Dayton, OH Posts: 1,049	Re: READ THIS FIRST - WHAT ENGINES WILL FIT MY CAR? When I asked the 3L Install Maestro I was told around 3g, not sure if that counted the engine though ... Edit: BTW does anyone know anything about the 3L crate engine on arizonadynochip.com ?

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