car dying problem - Page 2

kevxr2002 · 03-26-2008, 08:37 PM

ok well i got the chip out and i dont have the jerk filling anymore but the CEL is still on. Any ideas? the codes are p0170 and p0174

DanG · 03-26-2008, 10:55 PM

Cougar 101

Pull the battery, let it sit for ~15 minutes, reconnect. Drive it. CEL come back?

kevxr2002 · 03-26-2008, 11:10 PM

yeah thats pretty much what i did earlier. i took the chip out, let the car sit for about 20 minutes with battery disconnected. got in the car after that drove it around for about 10-15 minutes and no light. come back out about an hour later get in the car and go to the store cel pops up right when i get in. it also made this funny like high pitch flat line sound. not like ear piercing because u had to really listen to hear it but i could hear it.

And yeah i already knew what the codes were. i looked them up on here just to make sure the autozone ticket was correct. Thanks

Ok I take it back. after driving to work this morning the hesitation/jerk is still there. by the way its not like the hesitation u get when the imrc is going bad its like a slight missfire feel. doesnt do it real hard but u can tell its doing it.

kevxr2002 · 03-27-2008, 01:06 PM

after doing some more research today i'm starting to think its the IACV. Does this sound like I might be correct on this?

DanG · 03-27-2008, 04:24 PM

Yeah, that's "moosing". IACV.

As for the jerking, if you've already done plugs, wires, and a can of BG44k to make sure you don't have clogged / pissing injectors, you either have a sticking injector or the coil pack is bad (rare).

kevxr2002 · 03-27-2008, 05:53 PM

i havent done anything to the injectors. do i just take each one out and spray them down with the BG44K?

DanG · 03-27-2008, 09:05 PM

No- BG44k is a fuel additive that cleans EVERYTHING in your fuel system / valves / combustion chamber. Something like $25 a can, but it's the only stuff I use.

kevxr2002 · 03-27-2008, 10:04 PM

yeah i tried cleaing the IACV and nothin still has sound so i ordered a new one. we'll see saturday if that fixes it. also got new fuel filter to change out thinking that maybe one of the problems.

kevxr2002 · 03-30-2008, 09:52 PM

hey Dan thanks for all ur help on this stuff man. It was the fuel filter apparently becuse the car seems to be running great.

kevxr2002 · 03-31-2008, 11:50 AM

ok apprently its not the fuel filter. lol

03-26-2008, 08:37 PM	#11 (permalink)
kevxr2002 NECO Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Saginaw, TX Posts: 897	Re: car dying problem ok well i got the chip out and i dont have the jerk filling anymore but the CEL is still on. Any ideas? the codes are p0170 and p0174 __________________ 2002 Cougar XR 1985 Mazda RX-7 GSL 1931 Chevy -for sale. 2007 Dodge Caliber

03-26-2008, 10:55 PM	#12 (permalink)
DanG Dan G. & Son! Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Gainesville, VA Posts: 4,225	Re: car dying problem Cougar 101 Pull the battery, let it sit for ~15 minutes, reconnect. Drive it. CEL come back? __________________ Dan G. '99 Spruce Green 3.0L ADC T3/4 Turbo Cougar- SOLD. 2006 Pontiac GTO - CGM, M6, 18s - !CAGS, JHP Binnacle Gauges 1998 Contour SE V6 ATX <--- Beater

03-26-2008, 11:10 PM	#13 (permalink)
kevxr2002 NECO Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Saginaw, TX Posts: 897	Re: car dying problem yeah thats pretty much what i did earlier. i took the chip out, let the car sit for about 20 minutes with battery disconnected. got in the car after that drove it around for about 10-15 minutes and no light. come back out about an hour later get in the car and go to the store cel pops up right when i get in. it also made this funny like high pitch flat line sound. not like ear piercing because u had to really listen to hear it but i could hear it. And yeah i already knew what the codes were. i looked them up on here just to make sure the autozone ticket was correct. Thanks Ok I take it back. after driving to work this morning the hesitation/jerk is still there. by the way its not like the hesitation u get when the imrc is going bad its like a slight missfire feel. doesnt do it real hard but u can tell its doing it. __________________ 2002 Cougar XR 1985 Mazda RX-7 GSL 1931 Chevy -for sale. 2007 Dodge Caliber Last edited by kevxr2002; 03-27-2008 at 07:45 AM.

03-27-2008, 01:06 PM	#14 (permalink)
kevxr2002 NECO Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Saginaw, TX Posts: 897	Re: car dying problem after doing some more research today i'm starting to think its the IACV. Does this sound like I might be correct on this? __________________ 2002 Cougar XR 1985 Mazda RX-7 GSL 1931 Chevy -for sale. 2007 Dodge Caliber

03-27-2008, 04:24 PM	#15 (permalink)
DanG Dan G. & Son! Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Gainesville, VA Posts: 4,225	Re: car dying problem Yeah, that's "moosing". IACV. As for the jerking, if you've already done plugs, wires, and a can of BG44k to make sure you don't have clogged / pissing injectors, you either have a sticking injector or the coil pack is bad (rare). __________________ Dan G. '99 Spruce Green 3.0L ADC T3/4 Turbo Cougar- SOLD. 2006 Pontiac GTO - CGM, M6, 18s - !CAGS, JHP Binnacle Gauges 1998 Contour SE V6 ATX <--- Beater

03-27-2008, 05:53 PM	#16 (permalink)
kevxr2002 NECO Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Saginaw, TX Posts: 897	Re: car dying problem i havent done anything to the injectors. do i just take each one out and spray them down with the BG44K? __________________ 2002 Cougar XR 1985 Mazda RX-7 GSL 1931 Chevy -for sale. 2007 Dodge Caliber

03-27-2008, 09:05 PM	#17 (permalink)
DanG Dan G. & Son! Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Gainesville, VA Posts: 4,225	Re: car dying problem No- BG44k is a fuel additive that cleans EVERYTHING in your fuel system / valves / combustion chamber. Something like $25 a can, but it's the only stuff I use. __________________ Dan G. '99 Spruce Green 3.0L ADC T3/4 Turbo Cougar- SOLD. 2006 Pontiac GTO - CGM, M6, 18s - !CAGS, JHP Binnacle Gauges 1998 Contour SE V6 ATX <--- Beater

03-27-2008, 10:04 PM	#18 (permalink)
kevxr2002 NECO Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Saginaw, TX Posts: 897	Re: car dying problem yeah i tried cleaing the IACV and nothin still has sound so i ordered a new one. we'll see saturday if that fixes it. also got new fuel filter to change out thinking that maybe one of the problems. __________________ 2002 Cougar XR 1985 Mazda RX-7 GSL 1931 Chevy -for sale. 2007 Dodge Caliber

03-30-2008, 09:52 PM	#19 (permalink)
kevxr2002 NECO Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Saginaw, TX Posts: 897	Re: car dying problem hey Dan thanks for all ur help on this stuff man. It was the fuel filter apparently becuse the car seems to be running great. __________________ 2002 Cougar XR 1985 Mazda RX-7 GSL 1931 Chevy -for sale. 2007 Dodge Caliber

03-31-2008, 11:50 AM	#20 (permalink)
kevxr2002 NECO Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Saginaw, TX Posts: 897	Re: car dying problem ok apprently its not the fuel filter. lol __________________ 2002 Cougar XR 1985 Mazda RX-7 GSL 1931 Chevy -for sale. 2007 Dodge Caliber

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